Mashallah! What a beautiful couple

[Waa dhamatay]

@𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒 I was being sarcastic

bro most of you guys spewing this hate are bums and its just a coping mechanism cause either you dont have a love life or you simply just cant pull one work on yourself instead of focusing on others you bums

Why are men policing other men’s dating habits?

 

[Suhayb Aden]

@𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒 I was being sarcastic

Why are men policing other men’s dating habits?

nah its just the inceldom of our people like instead of being happy with our peoples love lives we are instead acting like incels out of jealousy for another mans success in a certain aspect of life

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Hyperbolic as ever, haha.

Non-FOB Somalis in real life don't re-affirm internet behavior, so I think they are unfair statements of emasculation. I have never met an incel in real life. People are generally alright with these concerns.

Some non-Somali communities are much closer to their internet shenanigans. The far majority of things that concern people on the interwebs are rarely discussed outside it. And when it comes up, there is a much higher level of maturity. Shit isn't that dire. Although the West, in general, might be worse gradually over time.

Non-Fob men have internalised Western dating habits to some extent whether they know it or not. For example, you'll see men being interested in women, but taking longer than usual to approach or at times, feeling that they should be approached or given 'a sign'.
Meanwhile FOBS, don't care or wait for any sign, they'll march straight to a woman as soon as they like her, and strike up conversation. Women love men who are confident, even if they don't find a man attractive, they love being pursued and not having to guess about a man's intentions.

This is why FOB men do well in the West.


Viva Somali men in Somalia. Waa niman rag ah.

 

[Odious Delirium]

i know. the amount of men on here that like xaar futo is insane looooool!

Personally I don't care about peoples preferences but when people start glazing ajnabis and or putting down our own it's just

 

[yazmin]

@𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒 I was being sarcastic

Why are men policing other men’s dating habits?

ironic for you to say this

if somali women were dating white men at high rates you would be screaming "its over" and "the blackpill"

 

[Waa dhamatay]

ironic for you to say this

if somali women were dating white men at high rates you would be screaming "its over" and "the blackpill"

For jokes yeah. ‘High rates’? Are faraxs dating white men at high rates though?

Non-Fob men have internalised Western dating habits to some extent whether they know it or not. For example, you'll see men being interested in women, but taking longer than usual to approach or at times, feeling that they should be approached or given 'a sign'.
Meanwhile FOBS, don't care or wait for any sign, they'll march straight to a woman as soon as they like her, and strike up conversation. Women love men who are confident, even if they don't find a man attractive, they love being pursued and not having to guess about a man's intentions.

This is why FOB men do well in the West.


Viva Somali men in Somalia. Waa niman rag ah.

So you want random pajeets off the street to ‘march to you’ and ’chase’ you all the time lol?

 

[Odious Delirium]

For jokes yeah. ‘High rates’? Are faraxs dating white men at high rates though?

So you want random pajeets off the street to ‘march to you’ and ’chase’ you all the time lol?

Never chases unless she has shown initial interest first.
she needs to be more into you overall since the relationship is built on the respect and obedience she is willing to show to you as a man in the relationship especially in the west.
Back home it doesn't matter as much hence why fobs come here with all that energy. Plus it's not like the women here move like the women back home so guys are naturally gonna be apprehensive

 

[Hmohamed54]

Yes,but as long as faaraxs and xalimos who marry out are marrying other Muslims and they aren't insulting somali men or somali women (self hating) I don't really care.

Sorry I don’t like this at all. Im against all interracial marriage.

 

[Waa dhamatay]

Never chases unless she has shown initial interest first.
she needs to be more into you overall since the relationship is built on the respect and obedience she is willing to show to you as a man in the relationship especially in the west.
Back home it doesn't matter as much hence why they guys come here with all that energy. Plus it's not like the women here move like the women back home so guys are naturally gonna be apprehensive

It’s very straightforward. Talk to a girl and if she shows IOI or is receptive it’s autopilot from there. If all this chasing/game stuff was real then noboy would be able to get a girl

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Never chases unless she has shown initial interest first.
she needs to be more into you overall since the relationship is built on the respect and obedience she is willing to show to you as a man in the relationship especially in the west.
Back home it doesn't matter as much hence why fobs come here with all that energy. Plus it's not like the women here move like the women back home so guys are naturally gonna be apprehensive

I disagree.
Men need to pursue women, in a respectful manner and then back off if the woman isn't interested. But men waiting for women to send out signs, is not masculine and that's why Fobs do better in the dating and marriage market.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

For jokes yeah. ‘High rates’? Are faraxs dating white men at high rates though?

So you want random pajeets off the street to ‘march to you’ and ’chase’ you all the time lol?

I am talking about Somali men and there is nothing wrong with men expressing polite interest in a woman. It's the natural order of things. What's unnatural is waiting for women to send out signals to men. Most women are shy or have manners, unless they are Western influenced and have masculine energy.

 

[Odious Delirium]

It’s very straightforward. Talk to a girl and if she shows IOI or is receptive it’s autopilot from there. If all this chasing/game stuff was real then noboy would be able to get a girl

I disagree.
Men need to pursue women, in a respectful manner and then back off if the woman isn't interested. But men waiting for women to send out signs, is not masculine and that's why Fobs do better in the dating and marriage market.

With regards to chasing I'm refering to not pursuing someone who is playing games or isn't reciprocating interest. A lot of guys don't know when to give up when it's clear that she isn't interested or isn't to be taken seriously because she wants to play games.

The initial interest is in the approach itself whatever side does it when you start speaking. Basically don't beg it if she's playing hard to get or isn't sure about you is my point.

 

[Angelina]

Never chases unless she has shown initial interest first.
she needs to be more into you overall since the relationship is built on the respect and obedience she is willing to show to you as a man in the relationship especially in the west.
Back home it doesn't matter as much hence why fobs come here with all that energy. Plus it's not like the women here move like the women back home so guys are naturally gonna be apprehensive

I don’t think a relationship will work if a woman loves a man, more than a man loves her.

My reasoning:

1. Women are naturally nurturing and loving compared to that of men, so a woman who loves you a bit less will even out and match your love since they’re more relationship focused. We’re also a lot more in touch with our emotions. We naturally put relationships on a pedestal more than men whether it be friendships, with parents and in marriages. Example, girls tend to look after their parents more in old age. Not because they love their parents more, let’s be real so do men, but because we’re more nurturing and expressive. We showcase our love more so than the average man in every social relationship. Psychologists argue that is due to the fact that men are more task orientated and women are more relationship centric. We value the dynamic with people more.

2. Women’s obedience isn’t just linked to love. It’s also linked to respect and knowing that your husband is doing right by you and is a masculine man that is a leader. Women leave men they love everyday if they aren’t getting what they need.

Honestly, I think a woman being with a man that she loves more is a bad move. Men aren’t built to be overly nurturing like us and hence in order for him to even meet us half way, he needs to love us a little bit more, just a little. You won’t get that thoughtfulness and effort that comes naturally to us. Also, since men a lot of men tend to be more polygamous by nature, the only thing that overcomes that for the most part tends to be deeper love.

Obviously many guys here are going to disagree but one thing we can agree on is that women naturally express love more. So let’s combine that with being more loving and actually loving him more? It’s going to be a rollercoaster heartbreak as that said women isn’t going to get what she naturally puts into the relationship. Since women tend to compared to men fall on the anxious attachment style with more men having a more emotionally avoidant attachment style, I don’t know how much of a good idea is it for a man to love a woman less. It will make some women become more anxious and insufferable to be with. She’ll end up being needy and paranoid. Men who are overly in love don’t tend to behave that way and usually have more control over themselves with regards that.

I don’t want you to misunderstand me. The woman needs to proper love you as well too. But In order to avoid the drama of a woman feeling neglected, anxious attachment style, feelings over being neglected ect, I do think men being just in love or more is a better for the overall health of the relationship as even a man more in love isn’t going to show the same level of emotions a woman would. I’ve noticed in relationships in which a woman loves more, that is the running theme.

 

[Waa dhamatay]

I disagree.
Men need to pursue women, in a respectful manner and then back off if the woman isn't interested. But men waiting for women to send out signs, is not masculine and that's why Fobs do better in the dating and marriage market.

Men are going to go for women who gives choosing signs or IOIs etc it’s common sense and has nothing to do with masculinity.

There’s simply no reason to pursue a woman out of the blue unless she’s especially attractive. A guy who already gets attention from women doesn’t need to go out of their way and someone who has no options knows better than to waste their time.

Doing things this way doesn’t decrease dating success in fact only increases success to rejection ratio and saves a lot of time, especially when it comes to being led on and flaked by women who aren’t that interested.

People only suffer in the dating market if they’re unattractive in whatever way or don’t ever put themselves out there.

 

[Odious Delirium]

I don’t think a relationship will work if a woman loves a man, more than a man loves her.

My reasoning:

1. Women are naturally nurturing and loving compared to that of men, so a woman who loves you a bit less will even out and match your love since they’re more relationship focused. We’re also a lot more in touch with our emotions. We naturally put relationships on a pedestal more than men whether it be friendships, with parents and in marriages. Example, girls tend to look after their parents more in old age. Not because they love their parents more, let’s be real so do men, but because we’re more nurturing and expressive. We showcase our love more so than the average man in every social relationship. Psychologists argue that is due to the fact that men are more task orientated and women are more relationship centric. We value the dynamic with people more.

2. Women’s obedience isn’t just linked to love. It’s also linked to respect and knowing that your husband is doing right by you and is a masculine man that is a leader. Women leave men they love everyday if they aren’t getting what they need.

Honestly, I think a woman being with a man that she loves more is a bad move. Men aren’t built to be overly nurturing like us and hence in order for him to even meet us half way, he needs to love us a little bit more, just a little. You won’t get that thoughtfulness and effort that comes naturally to us. Also, since men a lot of men tend to be more polygamous by nature, the only thing that overcomes that for the most part tends to be deeper love.

Obviously many guys here are going to disagree but one thing we can agree on is that women naturally express love more. So let’s combine that with being more loving and actually loving him more? It’s going to be a rollercoaster heartbreak as that said women isn’t going to get what she naturally puts into the relationship. Since women tend to compared to men fall on the anxious attachment style with more men having a more emotionally avoidant attachment style, I don’t know how much of a good idea is it for a man to love a woman less. It will make some women become more anxious and insufferable to be with. She’ll end up being needy and paranoid. Men who are overly in love don’t tend to behave that way and usually have more control over themselves with regards that.

I don’t want you to misunderstand me. The woman needs to proper love you as well too. But In order to avoid the drama of a woman feeling neglected, anxious attachment style, feelings over being neglected ect, I do think men being just in love or more is a better for the overall health of the relationship as even a man more in love isn’t going to show the same level of emotions a woman would. I’ve noticed in relationships in which a woman loves more, that is the running theme.

Well the reason your saying that is so women don't get hurt if they pick wrong. So let me preface by saying that I'm speaking for myself and what I would want based on my experience which is that I would want her to either match me at the bare minimum or do more. I have my ways of seeing if that's the case.
The thing is I want it to be that way because 1) I don't intend to get married to multiple women at once and 2) I intend to do right by her anyways.
I'm all about reciprocation so i plan to match the energy they give me. Plus love is something thats always changing and can grow.
You have spoken on the average guy and the average woman so perhaps that's ok advice for women to tell other women so they don't get hurt but I'm talking for me and like minded guys so they don't get burnt.

Plus I'm not trying to be someone's safe option or second choice because they have given up on there true love to make the right choice or something dumb like that

I'm sure you wouldn't advice your bro to persue a woman who doesn't like him like how he likes her

 

[Angelina]

Well the reason your saying that is so women don't get hurt if they pick wrong.

It’s not about picking wrong. Men and women aren’t the same. Men are simply more emotionally closed off than women.

So let me preface by saying that I'm speaking for myself and what I would want based on my experience which is that I would want her to either match me at the bare minimum or do more. I have my ways of seeing if that's the case.

What do you mean? Woman are naturally more nurturing so a woman that loves you but you love a bit more will more than match you. The issue is can you a man who isn’t as in touch with your emotions match her?

The thing is I want it to be that way because 1) I don't intend to get married to multiple women at once and 2) I intend to do right by her anyways.
I'm all about reciprocation so i plan to match the energy they give me. Plus love is something thats always changing and can grow.

It’s not about doing right by her. It’s just that men are without doubt more colder than woman and can be oblivious to things that are obvious to us. By colder, I mean not as emotionally expressive or as relationship focused.
Women also tend to fall more on the anxious attachment style and men on more the avoidant style. I really do believe that unless a man really and I mean really loves a woman. He’ll struggle with being overly romantic and attentive and let’s be real that’s something a lot of women fantasize about whilst many men aren’t fussed about that. It isn’t a case of a man being good or bad. You can be good but not have the ability to give a woman that as you’re not as emotionally connected to her. That isn’t a crime. You can’t help how you feel.

You have spoken on the average guy and the average woman so perhaps that's ok advice for women to tell other women so they don't get hurt but I'm talking for me and like minded guys so they don't get burnt.

Don’t marry a woman who doesn’t love you. Simple as that and understand that women aren’t like men. The nurture, love and emotions a woman naturally has cannot be matched by a man unless he’s deeply in love. That’s the real reality. Example, i’m sure your father loves you just as much, but who shows and expresses their love more? That is simply a stark example of how Allah made men and women different.

Plus I'm not trying to be someone's safe option or second choice because they have given up on there true love to make the right choice or something dumb like that










I'm sure you wouldn't advice your bro to persue a woman who doesn't like him like how he likes her

You’ve misunderstood me. I never said that you should be with a woman who merely sees you as a safe option. I’ve mentioned that she too needs to love you as well. In fact I mentioned that multiple times but
It’s your insecurity is speaking. I can easily flip your argument. I can ask, why should a woman be with a man whom she loves more hence he sees her as a ‘safe option’. Why is it a safe option when you love her more and not when it’s the other way around? Do you not see.


Nope, I’d advise my bother to go for a woman who really loves him but it’s more important he desires/loves her more in a relationship, especially in the beginning. That is why in every culture traditionally men have to prove themselves more to women than the other way around in the beginning of a relationship. Even in halal courting. A man gifts a woman, asks for her hand, tries to Impress her and her family. A man needs to Show he is more serious about her. He needs to give her Mehr as a sign of his commitment ect. In the beginning stages, it’s a man showing his desires/want rather than a woman. As a man you need to show her how much you want/like her before a woman can take you serious and human courtship has been set that way for thousands of years.
The feminization of Western men is resorting to this thinking pattern in which a woman has to go all out for you and you’re not even realizing. It’s insecurity pure and simple.

 

[Odious Delirium]

It’s not about picking wrong. Men and women aren’t the same. Men are simply more emotionally closed off than women.


What do you mean? Woman are naturally more nurturing so a woman that loves you but you love a bit more will more than match you. The issue is can you a man who isn’t as in touch with your emotions match her?


It’s not about doing right by her. It’s just that men are without doubt more colder than woman and can be oblivious to things that are obvious to us. Women also tend to fall more on the anxious attachment style and men on more the avoidant style. I really do believe that unless a man really and I mean really loves a woman. He’ll struggle with being overly romantic and attentive and let’s be real that’s something a lot of women fantasize about whilst many men aren’t fussed about that. It isn’t a case of a man being good or bad. You can be good but not have the ability to give a woman that as you’re not as emotionally connected to her.




Don’t marry a woman who doesn’t love you. Simple as that and understand that women aren’t like men. The nurture, love and emotions a woman naturally has cannot be matched by a man unless he’s deeply in love. That’s the real reality.

Nope, I’d advise my bother to go for a woman who really loves him but it’s more important he desires her more in a relationship, especially in the beginning. That is why in every culture traditionally men have to prove themselves more to women than the other way around in the beginning of a relationship. Even in halal courting. A man gifts a woman, asks for her hand, tries to Impress her and her family. A man needs to Show he is more serious about her. He needs to give her Mehr as a sign of his commitment ect. The feminization of Western men is resorting to this thinking pattern and you’re not even realizing.

Once again your generalising I'm talking about me in particular over here leave men in general out of this I already agreed with you on that point. I know what I'm capable of when it comes to doing right by her. I'm not emotionally stunted so none of what you said I would say even applies to me. I'm not gonna go into detail of how I am as a guy There really isn't a point but of course when I say I plan to do right by her I'm talking about showing commitment and the whole shabang that you listed but one thing is for sure if a woman likes you she will sacrifice for you which you can get even in the halal courting stage.

What I'm saying is when I'm attempting to prove myself (which is how you put it) and I'm not feeling any of my energy being reciprocated and she is rather demanding when I'm showing my commitment then I know it isn't worth it which leads to lose of interest for me because there is always another guy out there she is willing to go the extra mile for and expects less from and I know that because I have already spoken to people who would go the extra mile for me so i wouldn't trade that for someone who likes me less as my wife knowing i can get someone who like me equally as i do them if not more.

Plus when we talk of love you technically can't measure it but you can know if she really loves you when she is willing to make sacrifices because who wouldn't for the person they love.

 

[The alchemist]

Non-Fob men have internalised Western dating habits to some extent whether they know it or not. For example, you'll see men being interested in women, but taking longer than usual to approach or at times, feeling that they should be approached or given 'a sign'.
Meanwhile FOBS, don't care or wait for any sign, they'll march straight to a woman as soon as they like her, and strike up conversation. Women love men who are confident, even if they don't find a man attractive, they love being pursued and not having to guess about a man's intentions.

This is why FOB men do well in the West.


Viva Somali men in Somalia. Waa niman rag ah.

I'm going to be straight up with you. The majority of men don't like to be approached at all. Ask any guy; if a woman suddenly out of nowhere comes up wanting a number or something, there is something wrong he has to figure out. Like, what's the catch? This is unnatural. Excuse the analogy, but it's like prey that is peacocking too much for the hunter.

I've been approached before, I have had women that are desperate and it weirds me out for some reason. And I don’t mean normal interest, I wouldn’t hold that against a woman (generally).

I don't think a sign is a problem. We live in strange social climates. Back in the day, you could approach women cold turkey, and it would be alright. Today, that stuff is a double edge sword. Knowing she's partly interested lets you know that at least it won't backfire beyond a mere rejection. Many men in the West stopped approaching women altogether and only go through dating apps or through their social sphere.

Most times before a man approaches, there is a non-verbal communication where the guy, at least to some degree, knows the woman is receptive. This can go from a very vague gamble to a strong "come over right now." There is nothing wrong with knowing where the wind blows before shooting your shot because the risk is not only rejection but social demonization if the woman is crazy and gets off on the power of making a scene.

Do you know why FOB men can be more flagrant with it? It's what I now call the Tarzan effect. Remember when that socialized human ape started looking underneath the skirt of that Jane through sheer curiosity, and she just forgave him? Yeah, Western women assume foreign men don't speak the same social norms, respond to, and communicate different social cues, so they give them more wiggle room. The expectation and appeal are different because they understand being rough around the edges is part of that package. We don’t have that luxury.

What puts me in a prison bed puts him in her bed. Comedic exaggeration, but you know what it is.

 

[notinuse.]

Do you have this energy this for xaarlimos like @malab who goes with with ajnabi males and refuses to mingle with a faarax out of hatred?

How did I come in to this topic I'm an atheist what do I get from "mingling" with muslim faraxs, use your brain idiot? You and your fellow lugo baasta farax @Jammy can stay mad at the end of the day it's the woman and her families choice if she wants to be married to an ajanabi so be it it's not like you niggas had a chance anyway.

 

[Suhayb Aden]

How did I come in to this topic I'm an atheist what do I get from "mingling" with muslim faraxs, use your brain idiot? You and your fellow lugo baasta farax @Jammy can stay mad at the end of the day it's the woman and her families choice if she wants to be married to an ajanabi so be it it's not like you niggas had a chance anyway.

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