Map of control in Somalia (Updated Nov 2025) How cooked are we?

[3LetterzMM]

Blame HSM. He preferred to engage in nepotism and clan musical chairs over proper state and army building. 4.5 also stalled a lot of progress since it allows a lot of corruption.

Oh I blame him he’s half the reason why things are so shitty right now

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Aight u win haji but still 2012 was a long time ago you’d think the govt would have a better grip on their land by now.

They were literally doing nothing for the past 13 years, with all the free aid money flowing in unchecked this stalemate made a lot of millionaires, HSM was just another abti wearing macwis before fgs

Whats funny is now that its been confirmed that foreign aid/troops will pull out by 2027, they're going mad and trying to push random tax policies that all failed, they had a decade to prepare for whats coming in the next 2 years, it will be brutal if theres no a rapid change

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Ponteland is struggling against ISIS and also have internal schism between LK and MJ and have problem with Khatumo state.

Puntland is lucky it didn't fell into chaos already

I’m guessing you fell down the stairs recently?

 

[Ultra Opinionated]

It's Ironic either side could've won years ago if they stop being corrupt or insane.

2008 was peak GWOT, there’s no way a group like AS was going to be tolerated. They were basically what ISIS was in 2014.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

2008 was peak GWOT, there’s no way a group like AS was going to be tolerated. They were basically what ISIS was in 2014.

Nah Shabaab still had massive support in 2008 until Bakara market went kaboom

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

2008 was peak GWOT, there’s no way a group like AS was going to be tolerated. They were basically what ISIS was in 2014.

They nearly won 2009 though.

 

[Ultra Opinionated]

Nah Shabaab still had massive support in 2008 until Bakara market went kaboom

They nearly won 2009 though.

Let’s say they win. What happens next is just a repeat of 2006. Likely with official American intervention.

AS were never getting an emirate, that’s a fact.