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Major escalation: ENDF helping SL against khatumo forces

Somaliland controls most of it's territory and all the territory that any other country might be interested in. We don't need 10 MoUs for security. All we need is a training arrangement with an army better than ours and some new equipment - small steps.

Like I said there's no civil war so why do you think we need to match Somalia. Somalia can't even control it's waters like Somaliland does.
You lost tons of military hardware, lost some of your top commanders, one of your biggest cities and multiple military bases. Lol just take the L man. Somaliland needs Ethiopia or its finished.
 
I think we are all getting confused. Recognition is coming. I don't know if it's coming from the west or if Somaliliand with get AU membership or UN membership those are much higher goals. We just need a few to get started with some economic and military ties to shore up the state building project against Somalia trying stuff.
A state must agree divorce terms mutually with the country it breaks away from. I don't know how can you peacefully make this happen. Taiwan , Kosovo and Palestine have stronger causes and it has never happened for them.
 
You lost tons of military hardware, lost some of your top commanders, one of your biggest cities and multiple military bases. Lol just take the L man. Somaliland needs Ethiopia or its finished.

You guys are hard coping. Somaliland didn't have an army in 1991 and it surrendered a cold war satellite state armed to the teeth. Please don't stress yourself too much.
 
Nah, even if Ethiopian army help us recapture Lascanood Galdgob style, we can never FKD again. Now it's personal either we capture it ourselves or let them go closing the border on our side of Sool & Sanaag. This BS calling out a foreign army to capture your enemies land is a new low. Not our dhaqaan.
 
Nah, even if Ethiopian army help us recapture Lascanood Galdgob style, we can never FKD again. Now it's personal either we capture it ourselves or let them go closing the border on our side of Sool & Sanaag. This BS calling out a foreign army to capture your enemies land is a new low. Not our dhaqaan.
That's the Somali warrior mentality. No need to call others to settle scores let alone our arch enemy. SL options in SSC is really simple : leave their cities alone. No fight needs to happen in that area no matter what
 
Nah, even if Ethiopian army help us recapture Lascanood Galdgob style, we can never FKD again. Now it's personal either we capture it ourselves or let them go closing the border on our side of Sool & Sanaag. This BS calling out a foreign army to capture your enemies land is a new low. Not our dhaqaan.
Mj don't seem to have any problems FKDing despite AY begging Ethiopian kuffars for help lol
 
Mj don't seem to have any problems FKDing despite AY begging Ethiopian kuffars for help lol
Today MJ have about 740KM of land controlled by them without the need of Madow amisom. Anyway, wasn't Dameer Hassan begging others for help once the atmis leaves? isn't he afraid to order Ethiopia out of Somalia? Dameer don't open can of worms you can't scape.
 
Today MJ have about 740KM of land controlled by them without the need of Madow amisom. Anyway, wasn't Dameer Hassan begging others for help once the atmis leaves? isn't he afraid to order Ethiopia out of Somalia? Dameer don't open can of worms you can't scape.
You seem to be under the impression that I'm a major HSM supporter. I'm not and he too is relient on Ethiopians for far too long. AY is simply the worst example of it
 
I think we are all getting confused. Recognition is coming. I don't know if it's coming from the west or if Somaliliand with get AU membership or UN membership those are much higher goals. We just need a few to get started with some economic and military ties to shore up the state building project against Somalia trying stuff.
Are all isaaq mentally challenged? Somaliland is a prank state that will never get independence. Do a case study on countries that have gained independence.
 
Are all isaaq mentally challenged? Somaliland is a prank state that will never get independence. Do a case study on countries that have gained independence.

We don't need a UN seat if that's what you mean. We just need deeper economic and military ties with stronger nations (pretty much anyone) to improve the lives of our citizens, our economy and firm up security. You think we are stupid but we have very modest aims actually.
 

Thegoodshepherd

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Somaliland controls most of it's territory and all the territory that any other country might be interested in. We don't need 10 MoUs for security. All we need is a training arrangement with an army better than ours and some new equipment - small steps.

Like I said there's no civil war so why do you think we need to match Somalia. Somalia can't even control it's waters like Somaliland does.

Somaliland, as a possible independent state, ended as project on Feb 6 2023.
As soon as Dhulbahante said "we are going to war", the doors to statehood were closed.
It is over. If you want an image explaining why it's over, here you go:
SSC vs Isaaq.png
 
Somaliland, as a possible independent state, ended as project on Feb 6 2023.
As soon as Dhulbahante said "we are going to war", the doors to statehood were closed.
It is over. If you want an image explaining why it's over, here you go:
View attachment 318369

Somaliland independence doesn't rest on the status of the eastern regions and you know that so let's have another conversation. Not to say it isn't an issue but it's not the primary concern.
 

Pastoralist

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Nah, even if Ethiopian army help us recapture Lascanood Galdgob style, we can never FKD again. Now it's personal either we capture it ourselves or let them go closing the border on our side of Sool & Sanaag. This BS calling out a foreign army to capture your enemies land is a new low. Not our dhaqaan.
I heard a habar jeclo woman say it best. “We and darood have been fighting since the beginning, if one of their sons is born it’s dhaqan to kill him, if one of our is born they kill him”. So SL are khatar in their own right, I just think they genuinely don’t give a crap about sool which is why it was so easy to retake, but if harti came to toghdeer and maroodi jeex there’d be a real battle. So I don’t think they’d seek help from Ethiopias, but I think Bihi would.
 
I heard a habar jeclo woman say it best. “We and darood have been fighting since the beginning, if one of their sons is born it’s dhaqan to kill him, if one of our is born they kill him”. So SL are khatar in their own right, I just think they genuinely don’t give a crap about sool which is why it was so easy to retake, but if harti came to toghdeer and maroodi jeex there’d be a real battle. So I don’t think they’d seek help from Ethiopias, but I think Bihi would.

We trying to have a real conversation here you coming up with this stupid talk. Like Ukraine could invade russia. You can't invade a place with multiples of your population - you couldn't even defend yourself if they were really interested in you.

I mean you could defend yourself but you'd end up like Eritrea where a high percentage of the population is in the military and your economy is in the gutter. Dhulbahante fought for FMS status and a better life. I think they welcome Somaliland back in a couple years when it doesn't work out.
 
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