Madow gets absolutely violated by Madow
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Because everyone thinks we are sellouts for being Muslims lol when they chose a Jew to follow.You see how the comments are full of different Africans backing eachother.. but if it was a Somali person who said the same they would ALL unite against us.
Christians worship a man and they call us Arab worshippers. We don't worship our Prophet.A lot of Somali people in the West are also weirdos. So that doesn't help.
Adam Weishaupt
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Did your parents not spend enough time with you?Would you consider me to be one of those few users or have I been too much of a clown on here that needs to tighten up before you can adequately pass judgement, abaayo?
This is way of thinking is why people can't stand A.A.The Congolese guy was tap dancing like crazy. He got hurt in front of his ajnabi friends and decided to do all of that for their amusement.
He probably calls himself black in front of those friends, he just got mad that someone called it into question in front of his boys.
It’s no different than when Somalis on the internet can’t take a joke about big foreheads and decide to call people j*reer.
You can say whatever you want in the replies to this, but you can’t call me a hypocrite.
Why the hell do you think he was saying this FOR the other dues instead of him trying to defend himself? He's supposed to let him talk down to him based on his ancestors, fucking retarded.
The other guy wanted to make him feel inferior due to his friends. For what? Those guys aren't even white. So is he inferior to those friends of his simply because he is African? Who wants to live like that? Thinking everyone is superior to you? I feel bad for A.A but they should stop spreading their trauma. We have every right to reject it. Especially when Congo is worse than A.A.
A.A should check their privilege when it comes to Africans which are poorer and less powerful. They are powerful group now with Presidents, intellectuals, music etc. They should start acting like it now. I respect them but I refuse to kiss their feet which is what some of them are looking for. That's why they treat Ilhan like shit.
Are you aware of what a joke is?
Literally all of your points don’t matter in the slightest, they have no family they can trace back to or any close relatives in that area due to being separated for so long, at that point these two groups are distinct period, yes the Somali example is extreme but I only used it to prove the point that when two groups are separated they become two different groups period, you didn’t understand my point and decided to attack the comparison rather than the actual point.
Some afar groups could be closely related to northwestern Somali groups by only a couple 100 years yet you wouldn’t say they’re the same. We literally treat each other like complete strangers.
HuunoHunter
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Yes but it was ridiculous and very extreme. 1700s is very recent. It’s my grandfathers grandfather, it’s that close. I know his name and if you’re close to your grandparents and they knew their grandparents, you’d even be able to find out legitimate information about them. Westerners even have consensus about their 1700s ancestors whom they know their previous address, actual jobs they had and even date of death or any imprisonment and major life issues. Thats how recent the 1700s is in the grand scheme of things.
I understood your point, but I attacked it because of the extremity to such an extent that it made your point invalid. West Africans aren’t that far removed. What makes them far removed is that their linage is all over West Africa and due to the fact that they were enslaved and forced to not speak their original language. It was the cruelty of stripping them of their traditions that caused a lot of their distance to them.
Ask an Irish American and he’d be able to tell what city the patriarch of this family that first moved to America came from, he’d tell you what jobs he had and the list continues. Most Irish American, German Americans came in the 1700s. Even some Italian American came in the 1800s and we know that even in the early 1800s, slaves from Africa were coming to American shores. Yet we know J.F Kennedy was a proud Irish American and know many famous Italian Americans whose ancestors have been in America for at least 200 years.
No, doubt it. Afars are surprisingly more than a 1000 yrs. I’m not that sure but I remember reading it from the other lot who specialize in genetics.
I don’t discount your point. I don’t see AAs and W.Africans as the same people. I never said they were. I said they’re interconnected and they are. That’s why you have a lot of AAs going to Ghana and feeling ‘at home’ since whilst they’re not the same as W.African locals anymore, there is a sense of belonging. Countries like Liberia for instance was made of returning Americans who wanted to go back to West Africa.
My point is that literally doesn’t matter, they’d be at most 4-5 cousins to people in some African countries, essentially no relation at all.
Yes the stripping of their culture caused even more distance but that isn’t the only reason, it’s also the fact that they have no close family in those regions at all and have essentially formed their own ethnicity/culture, they’re their own people now and they should stop looking to Africa for some sense of closure, that’s some bs. They need to realize that they have their own ethnicity/culture which was constructed within the Americas and that’s fine.
Ask a real Irish man about what he thinks about Irish Americans and he’ll laugh at you. How many times have white Americans cringed at other white Americans who claim ancestry from here or there when they’re just white American with no real connection to Ireland except for what their parents told them about their ancestors.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some sub-groups of afars who are signfiicantly closer to some Somali clans from the northwest. No evidence except for some generations of intermarriage between the groups.
These AA going to Ghana to feel “at home” are living in a delusional world, these people aren’t really connected at all except for potentially having some distant ancestry from that region, doesn’t mean much.
I get feeling sorry for these people not having a sense of belonging but the problem isn’t their ancestry it’s their mindset which needs to change. They are home, in America where their people are and where their ethnicity/culture was constructed, going to Africa to find your “home” when your AA is honestly just going to where some of your ancestors existed and and trying to relive a past that’s way beyond anything that really impacts who you are today, the disconnection is so strong as to be meaningless.
Each to their own. I knew a Caribbean kid to did a DNA test and found out he was mostly Nigerian mostly from a Muslim tribe. I think that definitely made him more curious about his African roots and it lead him to accept Islam. He felt like he was going back to his origins.
As I’ve said time and time again, I don’t think they’re the same people anymore, but they’re interconnected. W.Africa is there history and that was were they were stolen from. I can imagine any conscious AA and Caribbean would feel some sort of curiosity about the homeland of their forefathers.
It’s nice that that guy accepted Islam but Islam shouldn’t ever be tied to one’s genetics or heritage, that’s a very sad circumstance if it were the norm.
Also curiousity is fine, it’s the whole finding your home thing that’s too much, a lot of Somalis are curious about the origins of Somalis on this forum, that doesn’t mean we’re going to Sudan and calling it our original homeland.
It’s what made him curious. Knowing that was the religion of his ancestors is what made him do research. I never said he only converted because of that. Like there is no insinuation of that. I made it clear that researching his heritage led him to Islam. Not that he became a Muslim because of it.
Rather weird that’s what you first jump to.
Abdirazaq, Somalis have been living in Somalia for about 5000 yrs? Can we please understand that 5000 yrs with no clear knowledge of who truly were our forefathers isn’t the same as someone whose people came from a well known area from 300 yrs ago and who descend from people who are still alive and kicking and who still speak the exact same language as their ancestors did?
The people we supposedly originate from are all gone. We barely have any artifacts? A lot of is theory and we’re still trying to piece together information. Humans in general hardly know anything about 5000-6000 yrs ago. A lot of it is guessing work. We don’t need to guess when it comes to AAs.
One is ancient and I mean ancient history before the Ancient Egyptians and one is literally what we call modern history. Let me bolden the modern part for you. Our mix is so ancient, it doesn’t even come up in regular DNA tests. We have to use Gedmatch.
I’m truly at a loss as to how you can compare Somalis to AAs when it comes to this matter.
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Ugh, I get the fact that there’s a lot of way’s that they’re not comparable but that doesn’t matter, the point was curiousity about one’s ancestry as opposed to trying to find a home and in that sense they’re comparable. It’s okay for Somalis to look beyond the ethnicity to see where they originated thousands of years ago but to not call it home, comparably it’s okay for AA to look a few hundred years back and see where they originated but not to call that home also, get it?
Yes there’s going to be a bigger curiosity for AAs due to time reference and stripping of culture but that doesn’t change the point that they shouldn’t call these areas home, it’s not their home, it’s where there ancestors originated, please just understand instead of trying to fight every point.
Nigga faaning how superior he is to the other nigga by speaking french 
