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[AussieHustler]

Are there any Somalis in this picture and do Somalis attend that school?

 

[Zakaria Hussein]

If I'm not wrong that school is in East London. Not familiar, as I'm north London. I can see about 3 in the pic, so there must be.

 

[Dalmoor]

The School's response;

"Sorry Mr Aussie. We're hereby to inform you that our students missed their classes and are doing their chores particularly washing dishes and cooking A--N-G-E--E--R -A. Hence why you can't find them in the group field activity.

Thanks,

Branton Manor Academy."

 

[Dalmoor]

Damn! There are so many South Asians in the photo. It looks like an invasion.
Uk is done out here

 

[Zakaria Hussein]

Damn! There are so many South Asians in the photo. It looks like an invasion.
Uk is done out here

Yeah same here. I spot another potential xalimo hiding from the school photo.

Yeah (East) London generally has a looooot of Asians. The few times I've been those sides, it actually makes you sympathise with these racist pub goers.
:siilaanyolaugh:.. They account for the most ajanabi in London. They even go around with cadaan names now.

 

[AussieHustler]

If I'm not wrong that school is in East London. Not familiar, as I'm north London. I can see about 3 in the pic, so there must be.

@Zakaria Hussein

Thanks Sxb, I saw the two girls and the guy at the back, but I thought they could be Eritreans or from other ethnic backgrounds.

Btw, I thought there were more black/Afro students in that picture than Asians.

Appreciate if anyone has any information about this school/academy.

 

[Keo]

I know where that is. It's close to Newham Gen Hospital where I did work experience years ago. It's one of those lesser known schools in the borough. I don't know anyone that went there.

 

[4head]

I can't see the difference between and somalis in the picture.

 

[Apollo]

I can't see the difference between ******s and somalis in the picture.

Image quality sucks, but I spot three.

Suugo Radar:

 

[4head]

Image quality sucks, but I spot three.

Suugo Radar:

damn you got a talent! there are many blacks in the picture and i couldn't find a faraax or xalimo

 

[Muji]

I’m sorry but this is a bit creepy @AussieHustler


What exactly are you looking for from these kids?

I’m not sure these kids would want to be on this site

I’ve already had to delete an insulting comment

 

[AussieHustler]

This academy is in East London and the overwhelming majority of the students are from the poor local communities. Half of these students rely on food supplied by the school. Over 80% of these students are the first one in their family to finish high school and aspire to go to uni. One refugee girl (half-Syrian and half Lebanese) has only been in Britain for 5 years and came from Saudi Arabia. Another girl was taken away from home and placed in care when she was 14 years old due to family dysfunction. All the students come from a family that lives on a council home aka government housing & receive welfare. Now, all 41 students achieved a perfect A Level score and has been admitted to Oxford and Cambridge.

 

[Apollo]

This academy is in East London and the overwhelming majority of the students are from the poor local communities. Half of these students rely on food supplied by the school. Over 80% of these students, they are the first one in their family to finish high school and aspire to go to uni. One refugee girl (half-Syrian and half Lebanese) has only been in Britain for 5 years and came from Saudi Arabia. Another girl was taken away from home and placed in care when she was 14 years old due to family dysfunction. All the students come from a family that lives on a council home aka government housing & receive welfare. Now, all 41 students achieved a perfect A Level score and has been admitted to Oxford and Cambridge.

Good habits are contagious.

Probably that's going on.

 

[Muji]

This academy is in East London and the overwhelming majority of the students are from the poor local communities. Half of these students rely on food supplied by the school. Over 80% of these students, they are the first one in their family to finish high school and aspire to go to uni. One refugee girl (half-Syrian and half Lebanese) has only been in Britain for 5 years and came from Saudi Arabia. Another girl was taken away from home and placed in care when she was 14 years old due to family dysfunction. All the students come from a family that lives on a council home aka government housing & receive welfare. Now, all 41 students achieved a perfect A Level score and has been admitted to Oxford and Cambridge.

Would love to learn more about what the school is doing to ensure their success

 

[AussieHustler]

Good habits are contagious.

@Apollo

Indeed Sxb, but this school and it’s principal (his name sounds Nigerian) are doing something special to motivate these kids. For example, in 2014, only one student made to an Ivy League uni, last year, it was 21 and this year 41 students. It should be studied and replicated wherever possible.

 

[Muji]

@Apollo

Indeed Sxb, but this school and it’s principal (his name sounds Nigerian) are doing something special to motivate these kids. For example, in 2014, only one student made to an Ivy League uni, last year, it was 21 and this year 41 students. It should be studied and replicated wherever possible.

I’ve just read what they’re doing and it’s genuis

- they recruited oxbridge graduates to teach students how to get into these unis
- no supply teachers
- library and study facilities open for longer hours
- they brought all the textbooks required for their students

It seems they are investing in their students rather than wasting it on old white men with special titles

Just shows when you give the disadvantaged the kind of support white privileged kids in the UK receive the scales are even and they achieve as good or better. Another f you to the IQ brigade.

 

[Keo]

@Apollo

Indeed Sxb, but this school and it’s principal (his name sounds Nigerian) are doing something special to motivate these kids. For example, in 2014, only one student made to an Ivy League uni, last year, it was 21 and this year 41 students. It should be studied and replicated wherever possible.

We don't call them ivy league here. Russell Group unis instead.

 

[AussieHustler]

I’ve just read what they’re doing and it’s genuis

- they recruited oxbridge graduates to teach students how to get into these unis
- no supply teachers
- library and study facilities open for longer hours
- they brought all the textbooks required for their students

It seems they are investing in their students rather than wasting it on old white men with special titles

Just shows when you give the disadvantaged the kind of support white privileged kids in the UK receive the scales are even and they achieve as good or better. Another f you to the IQ brigade.

@Knowles

Thanks Sxb, several years ago, Australia adopted a similar program where the highest achievers in university were hired (without teacher training qualifications) and sent to schools in disadvantaged country-town areas, but the success rates were very minimal. The government tried again last year to revive the program in major cities, but faced stiff resistance from the Teachers Union and the experts who claimed that unless these kids are not intervened in their early/primary education and built their basic knowledge, no smart Alec could make them overcome that deficiency.

 

[Muji]

@Knowles

Thanks Sxb, several years ago, Australia adopted a similar program where the highest achievers in university were hired (without teacher training qualifications) and sent to schools in disadvantaged country-town areas, but the success rates were very minimal. The government tried again last year to revive the program in major cities, but faced stiff resistance from the Teachers Union and the experts who claimed that unless these kids are not intervened in their early/primary education and built their basic knowledge, no smart Alec could make them overcome that deficiency.

Hey

In this case it makes sense for people who were oxbridge graduates to tell other people how they did it because getting into these universities has a narrow path and requires teachable skills. What to write in the application forms, how to get through the interview process, and even the encouragement goes a long way. you don’t need a degree to teach this. It’s like teaching people how go on holiday, it’s Useful to ask someone who went through the process so they can advise you on the best way to do it and what to watch out for.

The Australian method of getting high acheivers to these universities, doesn’t make sense though. As the studying, learning and revision techniques that a child needs differ from child to child. If schools took educational psychologists more seriously and hired them to consult the student, to run them through tests with them, diagnose them with learning difficulties (if they had any) and gave them the correct tools and techniques to learn they would be better off.

This topic has really taken off on YouTube, there are many other students on YouTube with many subscribers just teaching students how to learn. A lot of them are very sophisticated and use evidence based techniques for their revision which they pass on to their viewers. This is more effective than the Australian model.

Back to the reasons why these kids were able to meet their potential, I think it’s worth remembering a lot of these kids are living in governmental housing, they will probably not have a quiet place to study whilst at home and giving them these facilities certainly does help. I remember the kids who were financially hardshipped back in my college days and remember how they would get their text books half way through the module because their parents were waiting for it to go on sale. When you get your resources on the first day rather midway through your coursework, that alone can improve your grades by 30% imo. It’s as simple as talking to children and finding out what their day to day life is like and trying to find solutions around it.

Sorry I was harsh earlier on, I saw someone insulting the Somali girls and I thought this is where the thread was leading to.

 

[AussieHustler]

Hey

In this case it makes sense for people who were oxbridge graduates to tell other people how they did it because getting into these universities has a narrow path and requires teachable skills. What to write in the application forms, how to get through the interview process, and even the encouragement goes a long way. you don’t need a degree to teach this. It’s like teaching people how go on holiday, it’s Useful to ask someone who went through the process so they can advise you on the best way to do it and what to watch out for.

The Australian method of getting high acheivers to these universities, doesn’t make sense though. As the studying, learning and revision techniques that a child needs differ from child to child. If schools took educational psychologists more seriously and hired them to consult the student, to run them through tests with them, diagnose them with learning difficulties (if they had any) and gave them the correct tools and techniques to learn they would be better off.

This topic has really taken off on YouTube, there are many other students on YouTube with many subscribers just teaching students how to learn. A lot of them are very sophisticated and use evidence based techniques for their revision which they pass on to their viewers. This is more effective than the Australian model.

Back to the reasons why these kids were able to meet their potential, I think it’s worth remembering a lot of these kids are living in governmental housing, they will probably not have a quiet place to study whilst at home and giving them these facilities certainly does help. I remember the kids who were financially hardshipped back in my college days and remember how they would get their text books half way through the module because their parents were waiting for it to go on sale. When you get your resources on the first day rather midway through your coursework, that alone can improve your grades by 30% imo. It’s as simple as talking to children and finding out what their day to day life is like and trying to find solutions around it.

Sorry I was harsh earlier on, I saw someone insulting the Somali girls and I thought this is where the thread was leading to.

@Knowles

Never mind dear, I thought you were joking. I understood the guidance role and skills transfer that these uni students from the elite universities teach these high school students to be accepted into these universities, but (I think) we have a different Uni entry system. Here, it is based on your high school (ATAR) score, though some well after sought unis like Melbourne Uni offer a program called Access for disadvantaged students. I will come to that later. The thump rule for Uni entrance is determined by what score you attained which also determines which degree you will study. For example, if you get a perfect Atar score, then you will be accepted to study Medicine ...and etc. You don't need any coaching to sit for an exam to be accepted by the university, however, some universities might have interviews with students if more students with similar scores apply for the same degree. As for the access program, it covers a wide range of disadvantaged students, like schools in disadvantaged areas, poverty, refugee background, indigenous students and etc. These students have been reserved special places to study these after-sought degrees, but conditional to that only if they score several percentages lower than the required Atar score for that degree. It is modelled on the American system of affirmative action. But it is not racially or gender based.

In my high school days, the government paid for the costs of uniforms, textbooks, camp and excursion fees, subsidised transport for poorer families and most schools ran after school home-work clubs with light meals served. The local library ran a home-work club and matched students with several free volunteer tutors, be they Uni students, retired teachers or other professionals. At school, there were psychologists, a social and a youth worker even a nurse you can ask free condoms and tampons. Plenty of opportunities there. The problem arose from the primary schools. You had children who were never sent to a child care or a kindergarten, who can't read, write, or engage in a group discussion in their prep (preparatory) year of primary schooling because their parents have never been to school or had limited education, had too many children and the T.V was the only means of early education and have never socialised with other children away from their parents. There is no one at home to help them revise what they studied from day to day, or help them do their homework. These students are placed together in a classroom to teach them the educational foundation or basics required for their year/level and their educational level keeps dropping each year from their peers in other classes. I think the problems start there and for many of these kids, it only get's worse. By the time they commence high school, they are way behind their peers and may have negatively affected their self-esteem. All the hard work and assistance they are offered in High schools then becomes redundant and merely a band aid solution for a major wound.