Living in an Arab country?

[Nur_]

Why do you need to go to an Arab country to study Arabic? It’s not like anybody in Arab countries actually speaks Classical Arabic. You can probably study Arabic in your country and consume Classical Arabic media from the news & religiously lectures online.Sounds like a dumb plan to travel to an Arab country to study Arabic and only to find out they speak a dialect. Doesn’t matter if it’s Moroccan,Egyptian or Jordanian, they are all very different/far from Classical Arabic.

It's a requirement that is part of the degree. I need to do it to pass. Though I'd like to find something that doesn't have that.

 

[Nur_]

Afcarabiga waa af quraanka only three languages you need vital as somali are english somali arabic. Then maybe arabic regional dialects and afmaay to talk to a reewin in the forest
Mandarin is maybe a shout but only if you willing that in the case you work in china, get basically worked to dust

Do people use arabic in Somalia? I went on some somali chatrooms and saw some Arabic but I assumed they were diaspora

 

[Nur_]

Study Arabic. It's very similar to Somali tbh. Also what do you want to study?

I'm still thinking about the course. I saw quite a few open but they all had study abroads as requirements. Anything that will let me be a lawyer.


I may be confusing you for someone else but didn't you also want to do law and move out this year?

 

[Taintedlove]

Aside from borrowed words Somali and Standard Arabic are two completely different languages with very very little similarities.

That's interesting, I found it pretty easy learning arabic for that reason

 

[KhalidJamaac]

Afcarabiga waa af quraanka only three languages you need vital as somali are english somali arabic. Then maybe arabic regional dialects and afmaay to talk to a reewin in the forest
Mandarin is maybe a shout but only if you willing that in the case you work in china, get basically worked to dust

Meh you don't really need to learn how to speak Arabic just because it's written in the Quran that's just misadvising.

 

[Nur_]

Don’t study French it’s not worth it. I’d say do Mandarin or Arabic. As everyone else said do a STEM degree. They love the sciences. But first get your education within your country, work there for a bit then go to those countries. I knew a lot of people especially Adeeros who were making so much more money compared to what Canada would have given them.

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[Nur_]

That's interesting, I found it pretty easy learning arabic for that reason

Knowing a lot of vocabulary straight from the start is certain to remove a lot of work. Especially as one of tbe biggest barriers is pronunciation which we wouldn't struggle with. The grammar must be different since it's a semitic language but you've still got some easy stuff out the way.

 

[gasara]

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[cunug3aad]

Do people use arabic in Somalia? I went on some somali chatrooms and saw some Arabic but I assumed they were diaspora

Na they dont, i'm just saying islamically learning arabic is very helpful, also sound smarter to somali man

 

[KhalidJamaac]

Na they dont, i'm just saying islamically learning arabic is very helpful, also sound smarter to somali man

How does it sound "smarter" to Somali?

You can praise Arabic without ridiculing and attempting to compete with Somali.

 

[cunug3aad]

How does it sound "smarter" to Somali?

You can praise Arabic without ridiculing and attempting to compete with Somali.

Idk man i think im sleep deprived im gonna go offline

 

[Taintedlove]

How does it sound "smarter" to Somali?

You can praise Arabic without ridiculing and attempting to compete with Somali.

Same way knowing french is seen as posh in the UK

 

[KhalidJamaac]

Same way knowing french is seen as posh in the UK

Not really you guys just suffer from a Lack of Admiration

 

[Taintedlove]

Not really you guys just suffer from a Lack of Admiration

No I love somali, I'm just explaining why there's this obsession with knowing arabic among Somalis. It's associated with islam, the Quran and the prophet, all. Very prestigious things. I highkey hate how much somali has become a mix of somali, italian, Arabic etc.

 

[Nur_]

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[KhalidJamaac]

No I love somali, I'm just explaining why there's this obsession with knowing arabic among Somalis. It's associated with islam, the Quran and the prophet, all. Very prestigious things. I highkey hate how much somali has become a mix of somali, italian, Arabic etc.

Yh I misspoke I agree

I'm slowly starting to loathe it although I understand Islam's role in Islamic Interpretation, it should never under any circumstance be seen above Somali or be abandoned for the sake of Arabic that we have nothing in common with outside of Islam.

I'd say Somali has many Arabic and slight Italian terms but still predominantly Somali rather than a mix of it all.

 

[Nur_]

No I love somali, I'm just explaining why there's this obsession with knowing arabic among Somalis. It's associated with islam, the Quran and the prophet, all. Very prestigious things. I highkey hate how much somali has become a mix of somali, italian, Arabic etc.

I don't want to sound like an Carab Cabuud but I prefer Arabic loan words ro English or Italian. Arabic loanwords have been around forever so we can't do much about them. They also sound more natural to foreign ears. Most languages have a lot of loan words if we go far back enough. But Italian/French/English are recent and obvious. I do hope we will have someone standardise the language (especially spelling) and either revive old Somali terms or make new ones. I think the Arabic loanwords have gone a bit too far. I hypothesise it is due to the civil war in part. We haven't had a stable media industry so a lot of foreign media is consumed.

 

[Pizza man]

Go to Egypt if its available you won't regret it, they is a big somali community in both cairo and 6 October or at least that was the case back in my days and the locals love Somalis generally.

As for Arabic one year is good enough to learn the basics like reading and writing and forming sentences etc but is absolutely NOT enough if you want to be fluent or to stand out as an Arbaic speaker just FYI, no one uses classical Arabic in real life interactions and that's mainly what you'd be learning, having a dialect is essential and not taught you have to pick it up yourself and that could take years to grasp lol but is very helpful in the long run.

But since your goal is to get the degree and not to be a fluent speaker, one year of classical Arabic is still good for a 2nd language and very doable

 

[Nur_]

Yh I misspoke I agree

I'm slowly starting to loathe it although I understand Islam's role in Islamic Interpretation, it should never under any circumstance be seen above Somali or be abandoned for the sake of Arabic that we have nothing in common with outside of Islam.

I'd say Somali has many Arabic and slight Italian terms but still predominantly Somali rather than a mix of it all.

If we compare ourselves to other African nations we're doing well. It's better to look at through that lens. We don't have many italian or English loan words when you consider that. I hear Djiboutian Somali has a lot more French and Arabic in it but that's a small region of Somali speakers so it shouldn't threaten us too much. I think it is still fairly mutually intelligible with standard Somali.

 

[Nur_]

Go to Egypt if its available you won't regret it, they is a big somali community in both cairo and 6 October or at least that was the case back in my days and the locals love Somalis generally.

As for Arabic one year is good enough to learn the basics like reading and writing and forming sentences etc but is absolutely NOT enough if you want to be fluent or to stand out as an Arbaic speaker just FYI, no one uses classical Arabic in real life interactions and that's mainly what you'd be learning, having a dialect is essential and not taught you have to pick it up yourself and that could take years to grasp lol but is very helpful in the long run.

But since your goal is to get the degree and not to be a fluent speaker, one year of classical Arabic is still good for a 2nd language and very doable

My cousin lived in Eygpt. He's very light skin though so he gets mistaken as Eygptian. I'm not sure if Eygpt is an option. I'm hoping I can apply for a European place of study with a foreign languages department. That would be the ideal. I'd like to be able to visit home easily.


What is 6 october?