Korean War Is Over

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'The Korean War Is Over.' Kim Jong Un Begins 'Writing a New History' as the First North Korean Leader to Visit the South

There was a cheeriness redolent of a family reunion when the leaders of North and South Korea met for denuclearization talks at the peninsula’s demilitarized zone (DMZ) on Friday, shaking hands across the frontier before Kim Jong Un made history by stepping over the raised concrete slab marking the border to become his dynastic regime’s first ever leader to visit the South.

Then Kim, a portly vision of black in a Mao-style suit and horn-rimmed glasses, invited South Korean President Moon Jae-in to hop back across to North Korea, the land from where his refugee parents fled to the South on an U.N. supply ship during the 1950-53 Korean War. The two leaders then crossed once again to the South, hand-in-hand, before sitting down to negotiations at the DMZ’s Peace House, emerging in the twilight to declare that conflict was “over” and both would work toward the “complete denuclearization of the Korean peninsula.”

“There will be no more war on the Korean peninsula and thus a new era of peace has begun,” said a joint statement signed following the talks. Kim Jong Un said the Koreas are “linked by blood as a family and compatriots who cannot live separately.”

For Moon, reaching this point has been a lifelong ambition. He helped broker the last summit between the leaders of North and South, 11 years ago, when he was chief of staff to then South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun. Now Moon has the top job and is charged with persuading Kim to give up his nuclear weapons and a hawkish Donald Trump administration to invest the time and energy needed to ink a deal acceptable to all parties. A White House statement expressed hope “that talks will achieve progress toward a future of peace and prosperity for the entire Korean Peninsula,” and that Trump was looking forward to meeting Kim himself in coming weeks.



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South Korean delegation including President Moon Jae-in and North Korean delegation including Leader Kim Jong Un sit down for the Inter-Korean Summit at the Peace House on April 27, 2018.

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As expected, the summit was meticulously choreographed and full of symbolism. An honor guard of Korean soldiers in bright traditional war robes welcomed the leaders, during which Kim appeared slightly uneasy, panting heavily. But he appeared in fine fettle once the leaders and their traveling delegations — seven from South Korea; nine from the North, including Kim’s influential sister — sat down for discussions on chairs marked with a map of a united Korea. Kim even ribbed Moon about North Korean noodles being popular in the South. He also said he was “willing to go to [South Korea’s Presidential] Blue House at any time” if invited, according to Moon’s spokesman.

But if the symbolism was laid on a little thick, it was perhaps because substantive outcomes were limited. Both sides agreed to high level military talks next month, to resume reunions of families separated by the Korean War and for Moon to visit Pyongyang in the autumn. But North Korea is subject to strict new U.N. sanctionsfollowing its escalating missile and nuclear tests, meaning Moon alone has little power to offer economic inducements.

Even a formal end to the Korean War, which Moon and Kim announced Friday, rings hollow unless the U.S. was also party. (The nations technically remain at war as an armistice rather than peace treaty was signed.) The two leaders said they will work towards signing a peace treaty this year on the 65th anniversary of the armistice — July 27 — which was originally signed between North Korea, China and the U.S. And no specifics were revealed for exactly how denuclearization would occur.

Read more: What Kim Jong Un Really Wants From President Trump

“Serious discussion about denuclearization is simply impossible because this is not so much an issue of South Korea, but rather an issue of the United States,” Andrei Lankov, professor of Korean studies at Seoul’s Kookmin University, told South Korea’s Arirang TV. “South Korea should push the United States towards accepting a compromise.”

Before the summit, Kim had already promised to end missile launches and dismantle his Punggye-ri nuclear testing site. During discussions Friday, he joked to Moon that he “would not interrupt your early morning sleep anymore,” referring to his typically daybreak weapons tests. Moon and Kim appeared to be genuinely connecting; they enjoyed a lengthy chat while sitting alone on a blue footbridge following a tree-planting ceremony, with nearby microphones only picking up the tweeting birds of the surrounds.

But few believe North Korea will truly dispense of its nuclear arsenal after decades spent honing it. Late last year, the regime tested an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICMB) it claims could strike anywhere in the continental U.S. “Let’s take denuclearization off the table — isn’t going to happen,” says Christopher Green, a senior researcher on the Korean Peninsula for the International Crisis Group. “But North Korea may be attempting to make a serious change of direction whilst also retaining a nuclear weapon.”

While the lives of the 25 million ordinary North Koreas are largely irrelevant for Kim, he does rely on the backing of 2 million-odd elites, who mainly live in Pyongyang and are growing increasingly dissatisfied with the direction of the nation, according to South Korean intelligence. “They’re not sure that the state will survive, but more than that they don’t feel like their children have too many opportunities for the future,” says Green.

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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's entry in a guestbook at the Peace House in the demilitarized zone separating the two Koreas, South Korea, April 27, 2018. The writing reads "A new history starts now. An age of peace, from the starting point of history."

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Satisfying Trump enough to ease the sanctions and allow North Korea to prosper will not be easy. While China and the U.S. agreed last year that denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula should be “complete, verifiable and irreversible,” North Korea likely has a different interpretation — one “to revolve around decreasing the saliency of nuclear and missile tests in its diplomacy, rather than the complete, verifiable and irreversible disarmament desired by the West,” writes Karl Dewey, a chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear defense analyst for Jane’s by IHS Markit.

Kim’s announcement of the dismantlement of Punggye-ri has been tempered by reportsfrom Chinese geologists that it had already collapsed, possibly resulting in significant radiation poisoning. At any rate, its closure could simply mean North Korean engineers are satisfied with the design of their nuclear devices and thus no longer need to test, or that a second facility could be set up were further refinement required.

Read more: What Would Korean Reunification Look Like? Five Glaring Problems to Overcome

The challenge facing Moon is to keep the Trump administration engaged, even if the goalposts shift significantly from total disarmament. Trump’s hawkish new Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and National Security Adviser John Bolton have repeatedly insisted that military options remain on the table, despite the utter devastation that could be wrought on South Korea and Japan by Pyongyang’s conventional, chemical and nuclear retaliation. Low-hanging fruit may be for Kim to return the three Americans his regime currently holds captive, thus providing Trump with a small but ego-boosting victory.

Still, Lankov worries that the Trump-Kim summit “might not happen or might end in disaster,” because “there is always a possibility that at the last moment President Trump will listen to some of his advisers who will tell him nothing but full and immediate nuclear denuclearization is acceptable.”

Moon entertaining Kim was the easy part. Keeping Trump ameliorable and on message at the next summit is when the true work will begin.
 

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Wow that's a Huge featttttttttttt for Trump. It's legacy stuff, he will be remembered for who ended the Korean war. Never saw this coming!!!! Who's next Iran? Is he going to tell the Emiratis to ban the businessmen of iranians accessing their market? The guy is serious, he is gonna starve you out, their no little bit pressure, he said FULL PRESSURE.

He said if the meeting is not fruitful, he is walking out and he didn't say it will just end there, he said their will be an outcome either way it's not going to be one those we will meet again type meetings like we do lol.

The thing with missile attacks and destroying is, that just temporarily disables their operation, they will be back up and running again, it's not a permanent fix at all. Infact this korean talks may be a tactic by north koreans and once trump gone they will find a little excuse to return to old status. The question is how will trump ensure it ends and never comes back that's the question. If he puts a clause in there if koreans try this shit again, it's automatic starvation without anymore consultation and china signs it. So at least if he tries it again, he knows their automatic starvation clause there for resumption of nuclear.
 
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This Korea shit is like a soap opera. A lot of drama, but things tend to stay the same. I wouldn't get too eager.
 

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This Korea shit is like a soap opera. A lot of drama, but things tend to stay the same. I wouldn't get too eager.

Missile attacks isn't an option, he will just rebuild it all over again. Starvation is the only tactic here that is long-term. You cant really do much if you cut out off from your market place, it's like saying I will get a job but I have no food in the fridge, you first need fuel in the stomach before you try to do anything else after that.
 

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Missile attacks isn't an option, he will just rebuild it all over again. Starvation is the only tactic here that is long-term. You cant really do much if you cut out off from your market place, it's like saying I will get a job but I have no food in the fridge, you first need fuel in the stomach before you try to do anything else after that.

You know, I think American military strategists treat North Koreans as high IQ people. So their strategies are more long term.

With Arabs and Africans, they treat them like human waste and just bomb them.

This may sound retarded, but it's absolutely true.
 
You know, I think American military strategists treat North Koreans as high IQ people. So their strategies are more long term.

With Arabs and Africans, they treat them like human waste and just bomb them.

This may sound retarded, but it's absolutely true.
It's because of missiles remember Libya with gadahfi he was viewed like Kim Jong un
 

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You know, I think American military strategists treat North Koreans as high IQ people. So their strategies are more long term.

With Arabs and Africans, they treat them like human waste and just bomb them.

This may sound retarded, but it's absolutely true.
Nope, its because north korea have nuclear defence system. Arab & African countries don't. Besides Israel would not allow arab countries to possess nuclear weapons. Israel bombed a Syrian nuclear reactor in 2007 and guess where the nuclear scientists and technicians that helped build it before it was bombed came from, North Korea. They're not only trying to disarm north korea of these nuclear weapons but also cut off all roads that lead them to get in the hands of countries that are enemies of Israel in the future. Thats my suspicion.
 

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Nope, its because north korea have nuclear defence system. Arab & African countries don't. Besides Israel would not allow arab countries to possess nuclear weapons. Israel bombed a Syrian nuclear reactor in 2007 and guess where the nuclear scientists and technicians that helped build it before it was bombed came from, North Korea. They're not only trying to disarm north korea of these nuclear weapons but also cut off all roads that lead them to get in the hands of countries that are enemies of Israel in the future. Thats my suspicion.

They got nuclear weapons to begin with because of their high IQ.

Mongoloids require different foreign policy strategies to other races.
 

Yonis

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They got nuclear weapons to begin with because of their high IQ.

Mongoloids require different foreign policy strategies to other races.
North Korea is a cold war relic.

They got nuclear weapons because they're a communist dictatorship. Nuclear secrets were smuggled in from the former Soviet Union. They even share a border with them. Syria and Libya don't exactly share a border with Russia
 

Apollo

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North Korea is a cold war relic.

They got nuclear weapons because they're a communist dictatorship. Nuclear secrets were smuggled in from the former Soviet Union. They even share a border with them. Syria and Libya don't exactly share a border with Russia

I'm not too sure, South Korea is just too impressive. These people must have high quality genes. There are no Arab countries that wealthy with diversified economies.
 

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I'm not too sure, South Korea is just too impressive. These people must have high quality genes. There are no Arab countries that wealthy with diversified economies.
They're smart no doubt about it. Average IQ is something that can be improved (over centuries not decades).
 

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muh ummah ideology will be the biggest obstacle.

Also, pan-Africanism with an EU-like AU may become an issue.
Uniting with Madows. :mjlol:

I'd rather see Somalia nuked then blend in Africa with Madows.

As for muh ummah ideology, i know deep down most of these salafis want smart children
 

Apollo

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Uniting with Madows. :mjlol:

I'd rather see Somalia nuked then blend in Africa with Madows.

As for muh ummah ideology, i know deep down most of these salafis want smart children

Madow countries are becoming mighty. Ethiopians are sympathetic to pan-Africanism. Only North Africans, Eritreans, and Somalis dislike other SSAs politically.
 
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