Kore people of Lamu

[Juke]

now thier showing me clan maps to prove bajuni conquistadors discoverd somalia like the spanish discoverd south america

Bajuni are indigenous to Kismayo and the surronding coast you fool

this is more accurate depicting Ogaden harti and MX tribes inhabiting Kismayo and no bajuni bantu aliens insight

This is a present map, you do know all those darod migrated south from the north in the 1800s right?

 

[madaxweyne]

Bajuni are indigenous to Kismayo and the surronding coast you fool



This is a present map, you do know all those darod migrated south from the north in the 1800s right?

their origins are mostly unknown but the most accepted theory is that bajunis are recent Swahili arrivals from Lamu they even speak a dialect of Swahili which is a foreign language created by Arab intermixing with the native Bantus this clearly shows they are not natives

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how could recent arrivals from lamu claim kismayo

in this list of swahilis in malindi bajunis are detailed to come specifically from lamu

 

[Ayubi]

Lol you're nuts. Everyone knows who Syed Barghash was.

The Arabs didn't govern the Somali nomads inland, but the sultan of Zanzibar controlled all the port towns from Warsheikh to kismayo.

The national museum in Mogadishu was the Sultan's palace and was used by his governor.



In the late 1800s. My ancestors were apart of the group that established Kismayo as a town on behalf of Barghash.

That's a lie, Omanis and Arabs never ruled any Somali territory or port towns, they were NOMINAL meaning they claimed the territory but they had no control over it. The coasts were controlled by the
Hiraab tribe and the Geledi sultanate

 

[Juke]

their origins are mostly unknown

Their origins are known. They're a swahili sub group. Swahili is a creole culture of Arab, Persian, Indian, and some austronesian.

the most accepted theory is that bajunis are recent Swahili arrivals from Lamu

No it isn't. Stop lying.

That book says they live in Lamu, OK so? LOL

They live from Kismayo to Malindi.

The Bajuni islands named after them are in the border of Somalia/Kenya.

My forefathers built up Kismayo, Bajuni were indigenous to there.

Kismayo is literally a Bajuni word.

hey even speak a dialect of Swahili which is a foreign language created by Arab intermixing with the native Bantus this clearly shows they are not natives

Um who told you Swahili isn't native to Somalia? Af Barawe is also swahili.

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Somalia wasn't only inhabited by Somalis. There's always been Benadiri, Boran, Harari, Wardey, Bajun people living in the territory.

That's a lie, Omanis and Arabs never ruled any Somali territory or port towns, they were NOMINAL meaning they claimed the territory but they had no control over it. The coasts were controlled by the
Hiraab tribe and the Geledi sultanate

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Delusional. Arabs had no authority over ethnic Somalis inland but Mogadishu at the time was only shangani and xamarweyne inhabited by non ethnic somali benadiri. Omani's controlled all the ports along the east coast of Somalia. Barghash had a palace in the city lol.

 

[Ayubi]

Delusional. Arabs had no authority over ethnic Somalis inland but Mogadishu at the time was only shangani and xamarweyne inhabited by non ethnic somali benadiri. Omani's controlled all the ports along the east coast of Somalia. Barghash had a palace in the city lol.

I showed the source which debunked your claim, it was nominal but they had no presence or control. Secondly, Mogadishu was always inhabited by ethnic Somalis, you said Muqdisho was only Xamar cadcad which means you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Juke]

I showed the source which debunked your claim, it was nominal but they had no presence or control.

Had no presence or control but he had a fucking palace in the middle of the town

DELUSIONAL

Secondly, Mogadishu was always inhabited by ethnic Somalis, you said Muqdisho was only Xamar cadcad which means you don't know what you're talking about.

Xamarweyne and shangani were overwhelmingly benadiri/arab.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Their origins are known. They're a swahili sub group. Swahili is a creole culture of Arab, Persian, Indian, and some austronesian.




No it isn't. Stop lying.

That book says they live in Lamu, OK so? LOL

They live from Kismayo to Malindi.

The Bajuni islands named after them are in the border of Somalia/Kenya.

My forefathers built up Kismayo, Bajuni were indigenous to there.

Kismayo is literally a Bajuni word.



Um who told you Swahili isn't native to Somalia? Af Barawe is also swahili.

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Somalia wasn't only inhabited by Somalis. There's always been Benadiri, Boran, Harari, Wardey, Bajun people living in the territory.




Delusional. Arabs had no authority over ethnic Somalis inland but Mogadishu at the time was only shangani and xamarweyne inhabited by non ethnic somali benadiri. Omani's controlled all the ports along the east coast of Somalia. Barghash had a palace in the city lol.

I showed the source which debunked your claim, it was nominal but they had no presence or control. Secondly, Mogadishu was always inhabited by ethnic Somalis, you said Muqdisho was only Xamar cadcad which means you don't know what you're talking about.

It doesn't matter if some cities were founded by Persians and Omani Arabs which is true. They're now inhabited mostly by Somalis.

 

[Ayubi]

Had no presence or control but he had a fucking palace in the middle of the town

You mean a small fort? Yeah, that's because he requested permission from the Geledi Sultan to build that fort! In other words they had no control over any coast and their claims are false. You clearly don't know what you're talking about, do you?

 

[Juke]

It doesn't matter if some cities were founded by Persians and Omani Arabs which is true. They're now inhabited mostly by Somalis.

Agreed, Somalis conquered those towns. It's just hilarious seeing all these idiots cope and lie about history.

You mean a small fort? Yeah, that's because he requested permission from the Geledi Sultan to build that fort! In other words they had no control over any coast and their claims are false. You clearly don't know what you're talking about, do you?

No, it wasn't a fort. It was a regular building. It was made into the national museum of Somalia. Anybody from Xamar can tell you the history of it and how Barghash ruled the town.

Geledi was a clan confederation based in Afgooye that authority inland over nomadic Somalis, they nothing to do with administering the port town.

 

[madaxweyne]

Their origins are known. They're a swahili sub group. Swahili is a creole culture of Arab, Persian, Indian, and some austronesian.




No it isn't. Stop lying.

That book says they live in Lamu, OK so? LOL

They live from Kismayo to Malindi.

The Bajuni islands named after them are in the border of Somalia/Kenya.

My forefathers built up Kismayo, Bajuni were indigenous to there.

Kismayo is literally a Bajuni word.



Um who told you Swahili isn't native to Somalia? Af Barawe is also swahili.

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Somalia wasn't only inhabited by Somalis. There's always been Benadiri, Boran, Harari, Wardey, Bajun people living in the territory.




Delusional. Arabs had no authority over ethnic Somalis inland but Mogadishu at the time was only shangani and xamarweyne inhabited by non ethnic somali benadiri. Omani's controlled all the ports along the east coast of Somalia. Barghash had a palace in the city lol.

the bajuunis are not even a real ethnic group they are a mixure of diffrent ethnic groups who mixed with the arabs

also they are recent arrivals from lamu

go celebrate eid walal forget this bajuuni stuff

 

[Juke]

the bajuunis are not even a real ethnic group they are a mixure of diffrent ethnic groups who mixed with the arabs

No shit, that's what Swahilis and Benadiris consist of. Various mixtures of Asians and Africans.

How aren't they a real ethnic group? -68 IQ Audhubillah.

also they are recent arrivals from lamu

Can you read? It says they came north of Lamu

go celebrate eid walal forget this bajuuni stuff

Take your own advice. You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[madaxweyne]

It doesn't matter if some cities were founded by Persians and Omani Arabs which is true. They're now inhabited mostly by Somalis.

First of all. The Benadir coast has always been inhabited by Somalis, even by the Barbara people who were Somali ancestors. all major cities in somalia were inhabited by somalis have you not heard about the somali city states

No shit, that's what Swahilis and Benadiris consist of. Various mixtures of Asians and Africans.

How aren't they a real ethnic group? -68 IQ Audhubillah.



Can you read? It says they came north of Lamu


Take your own advice. You have no idea what you're talking about.

yes somwhere north of the city of lamu in the lamu archipalago

 

[Juke]

First of all. The Benadir coast has always been inhabited by Somalis, even by the Barbara people who were Somali ancestors. all major cities in somalia were inhabited by somalis have you not heard about the somali city states

More lies.

yes somwhere north of the city of lamu in the lamu archipalago

Your source is talking about inhabitants of Malindi and Mambrui. It says the Bajuni of Malindi came from Lamu. What the hell is wrong with you? Cope harder.

 

[Pipit]

source: The Treasures Ships. Ming China on the Seas

Source:
Middle Jubba: Study on Governance
Page 10

 

[madaxweyne]

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source: The Treasures Ships. Ming China on the Seas
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Source:
Middle Jubba: Study on Governance
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Nope the city of kismayo has always been a somali port town

source mohamed Haji Mukhtar book is outdated. Historical dictionary of Somalia was originally published in 1975.

Making Sense of Somali History: Volume 1 - Page 48

Making Sense of Somali History: Volume 1 - Page 60

 

[Juke]

Nope the city of kismayo has always been a somali port town
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source mohamed Haji Mukhtar book is outdated. Historical dictionary of Somalia was originally published in 1975.

Making Sense of Somali History: Volume 1 - Page 48

Making Sense of Somali History: Volume 1 - Page 60

You do know that map you provided says Himyar (Yemen) ruled the benadir coast right?

 

[Pipit]

Nope the city of kismayo has always been a somali port town
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source mohamed Haji Mukhtar book is outdated. Historical dictionary of Somalia was originally published in 1975.

Making Sense of Somali History: Volume 1 - Page 48

Making Sense of Somali History: Volume 1 - Page 60

Nikon is buur gabo Your source says it was “near” not that it was Nikon.

source:Ancient Civilizations of Africa
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