Our neighbor is about to become a satellite state: ''US Expected to designate Kenya as major non-nato ally''

Kisame

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Autonomy (ostensibly atleast) with no economic power vs economic power with little autonomy. Somalia vs Kenya. As a pragmatist, I'll take Kenya everyday, but the Somali will never accept that because we aren't docile people like Kenyans/Ugandans. They have a prospering country, but the price they pay is their emasculation. We have autonomy, but the price we pay is economic starvation. All about perspective, give me their situation over ours.

Standard of living is way better in Kenya.
If I was stuck back home I would have done whatever it takes to find a way to live in Kenya.

"We have autonomy, but the price we pay is economic starvation. "

Niggas back home are still having clan wars in 2024. We won't be seeing a prosperous Somalia anytime soon:snoop: .
 
Drones can't do shit about guerilla fighters specifically in forest lands like Jubbaland
What forest it’s still being chopped to this current day and shipped for charcoal.

We have massive trade deficit with kenya. Between us and them, we import 40-50million worth from them, and our exports are 500’000. We need to cut them off.
 
Lol useless the West has Africa in its palm and whoever disobeys them gets replaced. Eastern ties only has economic benefits but western ties has political benefits.
We’ve seen the west working in Somalia and it’s not to our benefit. It was foolish to think the people that ordered ETH to attack in 2006 would be on our side. It’s always US firms that are attempting seizure of Somali assets and our airspace. They lobby for secessionists, while parading “one Somalia”. Nonsense to stay with them.
 

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We’ve seen the west working in Somalia and it’s not to our benefit. It was foolish to think the people that ordered ETH to attack in 2006 would be on our side. It’s always US firms that are attempting seizure of Somali assets and our airspace. They lobby for secessionists, while parading “one Somalia”. Nonsense to stay with them.
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We’ve seen the west working in Somalia and it’s not to our benefit. It was foolish to think the people that ordered ETH to attack in 2006 would be on our side. It’s always US firms that are attempting seizure of Somali assets and our airspace. They lobby for secessionists, while parading “one Somalia”. Nonsense to stay with them.
The current government only exists because of the West you know that right? Also the current government wouldn't have existed without the 2006 invasion that's the harsh truth. The ICU were a bunch of clannist retards who were hiding behind Islam for their own agenda.
 
The current government only exists because of the West you know that right? Also the current government wouldn't have existed without the 2006 invasion that's the harsh truth. The ICU were a bunch of clannist retards who were hiding behind Islam for their own agenda.
The ICU at least had a plan beyond the civil war. Another harsh truth is that we wouldn’t have AS without the west, they were a minority within ICU and grew in number after ICU was no longer operational. Foreign presence in Somalia ballooned their numbers.
 
The ICU at least had a plan beyond the civil war. Another harsh truth is that we wouldn’t have AS without the west, they were a minority within ICU and grew in number after ICU was no longer operational. Foreign presence in Somalia ballooned their numbers.
The thing is that the ICU controlled the south of Somalia by fear and intimidation also they wanted to invade puntland and eventually Somaliland and incorporate them into their government by force that was their plan.

Also be realistic which country would have recognized ICU as the official government of Somalia? The answer is none. If the USA was not already by then involved in Afghanistan and Iraq they would have invaded Somalia and not order Ethiopia to do so for them.
 
The thing is that the ICU controlled the south of Somalia by fear and intimidation also they wanted to invade puntland and eventually Somaliland and incorporate them into their government by force that was their plan.

Also be realistic which country would have recognized ICU as the official government of Somalia? The answer is none. If the USA was not already by then involved in Afghanistan and Iraq they would have invaded Somalia and not order Ethiopia to do so for them.
Centralization was the answer so they were on the right track at the time. Attacking peaceful regions would be the biggest issue. Japan and China who both had FMS and qabil united from one region conquering the rest. At the time we were under an agreed 1960 union. A union through force of unification is much harder to break. It’s not about what qabil or region ICU are from, as long as they remained focused on one Somalia, the rest would fall in line after much sacrifice .

If we are to look at the taliban, because of the issue you brought up, our growth would minimize, but it’d still steadily be going forward. The Eastern axis would do dealings with us when the west won’t. It shouldn’t take 18 years to figure out that Uncle Sam hasn’t been doing it for us. It’s always US law, petroleum, and air traffic firms attempting to steal Somalia’s belongings aswell.
 
Lol useless the West has Africa in it's palm and whoever disobeys them gets replaced. Eastern ties only has economic benefits but western ties has political benefits.
Actually the opposite is happening, the west is being kicked out of Africa. A western backed coup was just foiled in DRC last weekend .
 
Standard of living is way better in Kenya.

no it isn’t for the average person. If you have money living in Kenya is better than Somalia but the average Kenyan is very poor and it has a high unemployment rate. That’s why there’s thousands of Kenyans working in Somalia
 
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