Kenya’s fertility decline since the 70s

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

in literally 3 years its gonna be below replacement level that's crazy

Black population will double in 30 years the country will become more African

 

[beauty_queen]

Black population will double in 30 years the country will become more African for other demographics it’s not looking good

it might double but it will still be below replacement level all groups are fucked

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

it might double but it will still be below replacement level all groups are fucked

South Africa’s gonna need immigration from other African countries which will increase xenophobia tough situation all around

 

[Nin123]

Kenya’s fertility was as high as 8.1 in 1977 now it has declined to 3.4


The county with the highest fertility rate In Kenya is mandera with 8 wajir is also number 3 with 6.8


Somalis have double the National TFR meaning NFD should continue growing for decades to come inshallah

It’s the aids killing them

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

The Kenyan government's census is very error filled. The TFR it has for Garissa in 2019 is 4.4 compared with the DHS data of 5.3 in 2022. The DHS is done by Americans so it is more likely to be correct.

 

[El Nino]

There appears to be a gap in fertility opening up between Garissa and Wajir/Mandera. Increased urbanization in Garissa seems to have reduced fertility. Garissa now has a TFR similar to that of Awdal. A gap in TFR of 2.4 children per woman between Mandera and Garissa is huge.
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[El Nino]

Inshallah Kenya turna into Somalia in the future, Aamiin

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Yea it’s not looking good for other Kenyan tribes

 

[zeilaprime]

When your population grows faster than your economy, you become poorer every year. Somalis, like a lot Africans, seem to think big population = big economy. This ain’t the 13th century. Apple the company is worth more than the entire African GDP.

 

[Gojo Satoru]

When your population grows faster than your economy, you become poorer every year. Somalis, like a lot Africans, seem to think big population = big economy. This ain’t the 13th century. Apple the company is worth more than the entire African GDP.

These people are seriously retarded. A large population would be even more detrimental to somalia

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

When your population grows faster than your economy, you become poorer every year. Somalis, like a lot Africans, seem to think big population = big economy. This ain’t the 13th century. Apple the company is worth more than the entire African GDP.

This is about demographic shifts taking place in east Africa that are in our favour I don’t see why anybody should be against that Kenya is one of the most strategic countries in Africa ?

 

[zeilaprime]

This is about demographic shifts taking place in east Africa that are in our favour I don’t see why anybody should be against that Kenya is one of the most strategic countries in Africa ?

Having more uneducated poor people will not make us more powerful in Kenya. We need to control our birth rate like Bangladesh and educate the masses. It’s better to have smaller, more educated and richer Somali population than a poor mass.

 

[barbiedreamzz]

Hopefully our transition takes generations we need to keep our TFR atleast 4-5 for the next few decades hopefully as long as we maintain a mainly nomadic lifestyle it should be doable

I swear low IQ somali men like you make wonder why I ever questioned Somalia's downfall, spreading your semen and breeding like fucking rabbits isn't going solve anything instead it will create more problems. Somalia is urgently ineed for basic medical health care, housing, affordable education, human rights, jobs to decrease poverty and famine etc. We need to feed and educate millions of young vulnerable somali children not create more children we cannot provide for, for fucks sakes most of population our under the age of 30 like at least use your common sense if logic is so complicated for you.

Thankfully with the slow progress that has been made Somalia fertility has been dropping, hopefully just like @zeilaprime said we might in the soon futute use family planning so that our women can have the privillege to finish of their studies and gain financial independence which in hindsight will help with our economy.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

I swear low IQ somali men like you make wonder why I ever questioned Somalia's downfall, spreading your semen and breeding like fucking rabbits isn't going solve anything instead it will create more problems. Somalia is urgently ineed for basic medical health care, housing, affordable education, human rights, jobs to decrease poverty and famine etc. We need to feed and educate millions of young vulnerable somali children not create more children we cannot provide for, for fucks sakes most of population our under the age of 30 like at least use your common sense if logic is so complicated for you.

Thankfully with the slow progress that has been made Somalia fertility has been dropping, hopefully just like @zeilaprime said we might in the soon futute use family planning so that our women can have the privillege to finish of their studies and gain financial independence which in hindsight will help with our economy.

If I were in charge in Puntland, I would shut down all tv broadcasting, ban the importation of contraceptives, fund only boys schools and create cash incentives for early marriage.

High TFR is good.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

I swear low IQ somali men like you make wonder why I ever questioned Somalia's downfall, spreading your semen and breeding like fucking rabbits isn't going solve anything instead it will create more problems. Somalia is urgently ineed for basic medical health care, housing, affordable education, human rights, jobs to decrease poverty and famine etc. We need to feed and educate millions of young vulnerable somali children not create more children we cannot provide for, for fucks sakes most of population our under the age of 30 like at least use your common sense if logic is so complicated for you.

Thankfully with the slow progress that has been made Somalia fertility has been dropping, hopefully just like @zeilaprime said we might in the soon futute use family planning so that our women can have the privillege to finish of their studies and gain financial independence which in hindsight will help with our economy.

Cool out with the disrespect bout low iq

when did I say that I don’t want Somali youth or women to not get adequate healthcare or get educated or be employed I’m actually in support of building more hospitals and clinics cross country and schools and job creation

open your eyes clearly we’re talking about NFD region kenya not Somalia proper Kenya has much more adequate healthcare and educational services then Somalia Somali politicians in Kenya support this as well and talk about this regularly there’s strength in numbers

you realize high TFR is a good thing obviously the fertility rate will fall but you’ll realize in a couple of decades why me and @Thegoodshepherd where right about this topic when Somalis have increased representation and political/economic clout across east Africa

 

[Man with a garuun]

Other Kenyans are having fewer kids. That way they can raise their 2 or 3 kids with good education, affordable living standards, and a bright future.

To the Somalis, having more kids that they can't afford means less education, a high mortality rate, and instability in the long run. Family planning is highly encouraged in Islam. It is high time that Somali Kenyans employ it.

 

[El Nino]

Zero knowledge about geopolitics in this thread, you start to understand why other countries are beating our asses. Having a huge population is a massive advantage, why would cadaans calacaal constantly about their number? How you guys think they managed to colonise the entire earth? Not only did they have technological advantage over others, they also had a huge population rivalling Asia and Africa combined. You guys are idiots.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Zero knowledge about geopolitics in this thread, you start to understand why other countries are beating our asses. Having a huge population is a massive advantage, why would cadaans calacaal constantly about their number? How you guys think they managed to colonise the entire earth? Not only did they have technological advantage over others, they also had a huge population rivalling Asia and Africa combined. You guys are idiots.

People fail to realize how this topic pertains to geopolitics in east Africa there is a political and resource battle and numbers battle between different ethnic groups in the region

demographics is destiny and the demographics in east Africa are shifting in our favour slowly

our future generations in the east africa will be in much more favourable position then us

how do people think kikuyu came to dominate Kenya politically through being the largest ethnic group there’s always strength in numbers

 

[Ozymandias]

Somali men in Kenya are having a lot of sex

 

[GemState]

I swear low IQ somali men like you make wonder why I ever questioned Somalia's downfall, spreading your semen and breeding like fucking rabbits isn't going solve anything instead it will create more problems. Somalia is urgently ineed for basic medical health care, housing, affordable education, human rights, jobs to decrease poverty and famine etc. We need to feed and educate millions of young vulnerable somali children not create more children we cannot provide for, for fucks sakes most of population our under the age of 30 like at least use your common sense if logic is so complicated for you.

Thankfully with the slow progress that has been made Somalia fertility has been dropping, hopefully just like @zeilaprime said we might in the soon futute use family planning so that our women can have the privillege to finish of their studies and gain financial independence which in hindsight will help with our economy.