Garaad Awal
Former African
Nonsense, it’s an Arabic derived word, there’s similar rooted verb: To bring جاب/يجيب
Jeeb is Arabic
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The alchemist
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Woah, don't d*ckride anyone, buddy.
Waji is also an Arabic word 
You're nacas and doqon it's an Arabic word found in the Quran
Garaad Awal
Former African
I dont but you can continue running with the narrative bud. Arabs > WesternersWoah, don't d*ckride anyone, buddy.
هل تعرف اللغة العربية؟
( do you know Arabic? )
( وَلْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلَىٰ جُيُوبِهِنَّ )
and to draw their veils over their bosoms.
What does ( to bring جاب/يجيب " jeeb" ) have to do with
( pocket / opening in a garment ) ?
ما علاقة ( جاب/ يجيب ) ب ( الجيب / فتحة في الثوب / فتحة الصدر ) ؟
( do you know Arabic? )
( وَلْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلَىٰ جُيُوبِهِنَّ )
and to draw their veils over their bosoms.
What does ( to bring جاب/يجيب " jeeb" ) have to do with
( pocket / opening in a garment ) ?
ما علاقة ( جاب/ يجيب ) ب ( الجيب / فتحة في الثوب / فتحة الصدر ) ؟
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The alchemist
VIP
People exaggerate the Arabic influence and quite frankly it is what it is. The influence comes from the contact we had with Arabs. That's the linguistic history of contact, culture, and economic tradition. It's foolish to erase that.
Now on to the matter of loanword count. We have to emphasize that most loanwords are increasingly used in colloquial speech where it seems more prevalent, maybe max 20%. But in truth, if we laid down the entire Somali language, meaning, including the entire linguistics, the Arabic loanword count would be way below that, and indeed, not in any excessive capacity compared to other languages that have many loanwords from other languages.
Somali is not excessively Arabic when you measure the entire language. And that is the only reliable measure, not overreact because we have loanwords here and there.
English has tons of loanwords from many places, and so do many other Germanic languages. Do you know what they do? They study the history of it instead of having a weird xenophobic impulse trying to "purify." The biggest L of the Spanish and the Turks regarding this matter was to purify their languages from historical influence.
In fact, I can make the claim that the more loanwords you have, the more cosmopolitan you are. If your language is without influence, then you are secluded from the rest of the world.
Now on to the matter of loanword count. We have to emphasize that most loanwords are increasingly used in colloquial speech where it seems more prevalent, maybe max 20%. But in truth, if we laid down the entire Somali language, meaning, including the entire linguistics, the Arabic loanword count would be way below that, and indeed, not in any excessive capacity compared to other languages that have many loanwords from other languages.
Somali is not excessively Arabic when you measure the entire language. And that is the only reliable measure, not overreact because we have loanwords here and there.
English has tons of loanwords from many places, and so do many other Germanic languages. Do you know what they do? They study the history of it instead of having a weird xenophobic impulse trying to "purify." The biggest L of the Spanish and the Turks regarding this matter was to purify their languages from historical influence.
In fact, I can make the claim that the more loanwords you have, the more cosmopolitan you are. If your language is without influence, then you are secluded from the rest of the world.
The alchemist
VIP
What narrative? Maybe you confused me with the other guy.
Garaad Awal
Former African
Yes I know Arabic mr. Google translate. I said it comes from the same derived roots. It’s the same for most Arabic words, جيب is an Arabic word and issued across the entire Arab world, only some delusional illiterate would believe this word is from Somali
Garaad Awal
Former African
Nah you jumped in and ran with the narrative that I dickride. Next time read my posts carefully before jumping in my guy
The alchemist
VIP
Nah, I ran with no narrative. What I responded to was you using the word d*ckride when you never had to do that. I have never had a pro-Western take on this, or puritan. Read my above post
فتح " open " → مفتاح " key / opener " .
Now, what is required from you :
Where does the noun ( جيب Jeeb ) come from ?
Now, what is required from you :
Where does the noun ( جيب Jeeb ) come from ?
جَيب: (اسم)
- الجمع : أجياب و جُيوب و جِيُوب
- جَيْب القميص ونحوه: ما يُدخل منه الرَّأسُ عند لُبسه، طوق القميص
- ما تُوضع فيه النُّقود وغيرها من الأشياء سُرقت نقودُه من جيب بنطلونه،
أخي إنني أعلم أن هذه الكلمة موجودة في اللغة العربية .
المطلوب منك هو أن تتوصل إلى اشتقاق الكلمة
مثال
كلمة ( مفتاح )
مشتقة من الجذر اللغوي ( فتح / يفتح )
الآن المطلوب منك ، كلمة ( الجيب ) مشتقة من ماذا ؟
( جاب / يجيب )
تعني : أحضر / يحضر
جلب / يجلب
إذا قلت أن كلمة ( جيب : فتحة القميص ، فتحات صدور النساء )
مشتقة من (جاب / يجيب )
فالسؤال : ما علاقة ( فتحة القميص / فتحات صدور النساء )
ب ( جاب / يجيب ) التي تعني :
أحضر / يحضر ؟
قال سعيد بن جبير :
( وليضربن ) : وليشددن ( بخمرهن على جيوبهن )
يعني : على النحر والصدر ، فلا يرى منه شيء .
Hotchick12
VIP
If it’s waqooyi it’s more
Hotchick12
VIP
But southerners still understand us
That's due to the shared Afro-Asiatic origin of the languages.
You're confusing it with the colloquial word used by certain Arabs while here we're talking about origins of the word which roughly translates to pockets not words used in in vernacular Arabic dialects.
Your colleague ( Garaad Awal " post #21" ) is the one who mentioned this colloquial Arabic word
( To bring جاب / يجيب " jaab " ) .
So I answered him and asked him ( Garaad Awal ) :
What is the relationship between this colloquial Arabic word ( جاب/ يجيب " jaab " which means : To bring ) and the Quranic word ( جيب " jeeb " which means : pocket / opening in a garment ) ?
