evidence from the Quran or Sunnah?The words of prominent scholar Sheikh Sulaiman Al-Ruhayli. This is a message to those of you posting slander against bilād At Tawheed
Saudi did not exist during the time of the nabi SAW, affairs like this we must take the opinions of the scholars. And here is the words of a huge 3aalim. So it is best to followevidence from the Quran or Sunnah?
sorry but im not gonna defend the immorality that MBS allows or seems to allow in that country
sure but to make something obligatory one must provide evidence from the Quran or Sunnah. now I can provide you evidence for something which is obligatory i.e. enjoining good and forbidding evilSaudi did not exist during the time of the nabi SAW, affairs like this we must take the opinions of the scholars. And here is the words of a huge 3aalim. So it is best to follow
Let's be real, Saudi Arabia is no longer what it was before, starting with the presence of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice and making the country conservative, to this global openness, I honestly don't see it as good, but as long as they keep Mecca and Medina safe, I honestly don't care about the rest.sure but to make something obligatory one must provide evidence from the Quran or Sunnah. now I can provide you evidence for something which is obligatory i.e. enjoining good and forbidding evil
Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“You (true believers in Islamic Monotheism, and real followers of Prophet Muhammad and his Sunnah) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind; you enjoin Al-Ma‘roof (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam has ordained) and forbid Al-Munkar (polytheism, disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden), and you believe in Allah” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:110]
and Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
Indeed, Allāh orders justice and good conduct and giving [help] to relatives and forbids immorality and bad conduct and oppression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded.
Enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil is a mission which will never end until the Hour begins. It is obligatory upon all the ummah, rulers and subjects, men and women, each according to his or her circumstances. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever among you sees an evil action, let him change it with his hand [by taking action]; and if he cannot, then with his tongue [by speaking out]; and if he cannot, then with his heart [by feeling that it is wrong] – and that is the weakest of faith.” (Narrated by Muslim, 49)
again, i will not defend the immorality that happens in that country
I am not saying dont criticize when haram is openly being displayed, but to differentiate between truth and falsehood. When you see a Muslim sin, you are supposed to make excuse for him, this same thing applies to leaders of huge governments. And when it comes to Muslim states being criticized by kuffar and khawarij the same logic appliessure but to make something obligatory one must provide evidence from the Quran or Sunnah. now I can provide you evidence for something which is obligatory i.e. enjoining good and forbidding evil
Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“You (true believers in Islamic Monotheism, and real followers of Prophet Muhammad and his Sunnah) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind; you enjoin Al-Ma‘roof (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam has ordained) and forbid Al-Munkar (polytheism, disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden), and you believe in Allah” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:110]
and Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
Indeed, Allāh orders justice and good conduct and giving [help] to relatives and forbids immorality and bad conduct and oppression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded.
Enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil is a mission which will never end until the Hour begins. It is obligatory upon all the ummah, rulers and subjects, men and women, each according to his or her circumstances. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever among you sees an evil action, let him change it with his hand [by taking action]; and if he cannot, then with his tongue [by speaking out]; and if he cannot, then with his heart [by feeling that it is wrong] – and that is the weakest of faith.” (Narrated by Muslim, 49)
again, i will not defend the immorality that happens in that country
Peace won't last forever. By any means necessary, Iran must never gain a foothold in Arabia, especially over the holy cities in the future conflict.Defend the saudis against who?? They seem to be doing fine
He's trying to tell us that we are islamically obligated to be keyboard warriors on behalf of KSA.Defend the saudis against who?? They seem to be doing fine
i agree with making excuses and husn al dhan for our muslim brothers but when kuffar/khawarij criticize these things happening in muslim states what am i supposed to defend? im not calling MBS any names and even edited my text from "what mbs allows" to "what mbs allows OR seems to allow"I am not saying dont criticize when haram is openly being displayed, but to differentiate between truth and falsehood. When you see a Muslim sin, you are supposed to make excuse for him, this same thing applies to leaders of huge governments. And when it comes to Muslim states being criticized by kuffar and khawarij the same logic applies
Of course. But if someone like @Dalac Bilaash call Saudi a kafir state, you are obligated to defend it. Or if someone put takfir on the ruler, you should defend him. Etci agree with making excuses and husn al dhan for our muslim brothers but when kuffar/khawarij criticize these things happening in muslim states what am i supposed to defend? im not calling MBS any names and even edited my text from "what mbs allows" to "what mbs allows OR seems to allow"
Iran government is a glass house. They have no allies and their own people hate them. If they decide to go to war, they’ll lose quickly & pretty badly. Only Iran’s proxies pose a threat to KSA. But in all out war, nobody will help Iran. KSA won’t fall to them.Peace won't last forever. By any means necessary, Iran must never gain a foothold in Arabia, especially over the holy cities in the future conflict.
idk wym with defend but if "defend" in this case means tell them to provide evidence or fear Allah then id agree but idk about being obligated to do so.Of course. But if someone like @Dalac Bilaash call Saudi a kafir state, you are obligated to defend it. Or if someone put takfir on the ruler, you should defend him. Etc
As a lander I’m ashamed that there are guys who think like him in jamhuuriyada barakaysanHe's trying to tell us that we are islamically obligated to be keyboard warriors on behalf of KSA.
Wdym?It will take much bloodshed and suffering to rewrite the wrong of kidnapping/luring nomad boys and street children in the 80s and unleashing them across the somali societies, as young zelous wahabbis in the late 90's & early 2000's.
History will catch up to these bedouins, for they have done some truly permanent damage to our homeland and people.
As a fellow lander, I feel the exact same way about his mentality.As a lander I’m ashamed that there are guys who think like him in jamhuuriyada barakaysan
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