Israelis do not support Palestinian equality

It is a common platitude amongst some of the weaker parts of the Palestine solidarity movement that “Israelis want peace” and do not support their government’s policies of oppression against the Palestinians and other Arabs peoples.

But the facts simply don’t bear this out. Let’s take a cursory examination of some Israeli polling data.

A poll of Israeli Jews taken at the end of last year shows that 55 per cent support “unilateral annexation” of all, or the majority, of the West Bank in one form or another.

It is unclear from the think tank’s data how many of the remaining 45 per cent still support another form of this blatant theft of Palestinian land and homes, so long as it is not “unilateral” – i.e. green-lighted by the imperialist power headquartered in Washington DC.

This indicates that the vast majority of Israeli society supports the military occupation and theft of Palestinian land, which annexation represents. Israel’s Jews-only settlements are illegal under international law – in fact, they are a war crime.

The same poll shows that 66 per cent of Israeli Jews agree with the openly racist statement that the Arab countries surrounding Israel are a “jungle” in which Israeli civilisation has been established.

With such a wide degree acceptance of racism and violence against the Indigenous people of Palestine within Israeli society, it is very clear that such disturbing views are not confined merely to the political right within Zionism.

The author of an essay published this week on the issue of Israeli settlements, in the leading Israeli liberal Zionist publication Haaretz, explained how it was, in reality, the so-called “left-wing” of Zionism which historically founded the first illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank – not the right-wing Likud governments which began in 1977.

The first Israeli colonies in the West Bank were established immediately after the conclusion of Israel’s 1967 war of aggression against the Palestinian people – which resulted in the illegal occupation of the remainder of historic Palestine (the Gaza Strip and West Bank, including East Jerusalem) along with large parts of Syria and a massive swathe of Egypt.

It was not Likud, or the hardcore religious-Zionist settler colonists who did any of this – it was the Israeli government of the Alignment – the forerunner of the Israeli Labor Party.

Gershom Gorenberg (a US-born Zionist who emigrated to Palestine in 1977 and subsequently became a settler) is a journalist who has written a book on the history of the West Bank settler movement, Accidental Empire.

“Settlement in itself was a core value of Labor Zionism,” Gorenberg explained to Haaretz.

The paper expressed that: “Gorenberg has attempted to dispel the common conception that the settlement enterprise was forced on Israel by a small but highly committed coterie of messianic religious nationalists.”

The religious settlers were a sort of vanguard of course, but they could never act without the planning and go-ahead of the Israeli government.

According to the Haaretz essay, polls taken immediately after Israel’s illegal 1967 invasion and occupation showed that more than 60 per cent of Israelis felt that: “We should go ahead, we should annex everything.”

The essay continues: “Gorenberg mentions a poll from July 1967 showing that 71 per cent of the public was in favour of keeping the West Bank, and 85 per cent the Golan.”

These trends have only magnified over the years.

Polling during Israel’s last massive war of destruction against the Palestinian population of the Gaza Strip showed that almost all Israeli Jews supported the massacre.

Around 2,200 Palestinians were killed, an overwhelming proportion were civilians. This included 500 children (only 71 Israelis were killed by Palestinian resistance fighters – almost all of them were soldiers).

As many as 97 per cent of Israeli Jews supported this atrocity, according to successive polls during the war (a minimum of 92 per cent).

None of this means that Israelis are uniquely war-like or some kind of ultimate metaphysical evil in the world. Far from it.

In actuality, Israel is only one part of the long ignoble, violent history of European and Euro-American settler-colonialism. It has been the norm for hundreds of years, for settler societies to support wars of aggression, massacre and expansion against indigenous populations.

This has been seen all over the world: in North American, southern Africa, Algeria, Australia and New Zealand.

Right up until the end of the apartheid regime in South Africa, for example, almost all white South Africans supported the maintenance of the white supremacist regime, just as almost all Israeli Jews support the Jewish supremacist regime in historic Palestine.

Of course, there are some marginalised (and often brave) Israeli dissidents who have broken ranks and rejected Zionism, those few genuinely support equality, return and liberation, and that is a good thing.

But please, let’s stop deluding ourselves that “Israelis want peace” – it simply isn’t true.
 

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It is a common platitude amongst some of the weaker parts of the Palestine solidarity movement that “Israelis want peace” and do not support their government’s policies of oppression against the Palestinians and other Arabs peoples.

But the facts simply don’t bear this out. Let’s take a cursory examination of some Israeli polling data.

A poll of Israeli Jews taken at the end of last year shows that 55 per cent support “unilateral annexation” of all, or the majority, of the West Bank in one form or another.

It is unclear from the think tank’s data how many of the remaining 45 per cent still support another form of this blatant theft of Palestinian land and homes, so long as it is not “unilateral” – i.e. green-lighted by the imperialist power headquartered in Washington DC.

This indicates that the vast majority of Israeli society supports the military occupation and theft of Palestinian land, which annexation represents. Israel’s Jews-only settlements are illegal under international law – in fact, they are a war crime.

The same poll shows that 66 per cent of Israeli Jews agree with the openly racist statement that the Arab countries surrounding Israel are a “jungle” in which Israeli civilisation has been established.

With such a wide degree acceptance of racism and violence against the Indigenous people of Palestine within Israeli society, it is very clear that such disturbing views are not confined merely to the political right within Zionism.

The author of an essay published this week on the issue of Israeli settlements, in the leading Israeli liberal Zionist publication Haaretz, explained how it was, in reality, the so-called “left-wing” of Zionism which historically founded the first illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank – not the right-wing Likud governments which began in 1977.

The first Israeli colonies in the West Bank were established immediately after the conclusion of Israel’s 1967 war of aggression against the Palestinian people – which resulted in the illegal occupation of the remainder of historic Palestine (the Gaza Strip and West Bank, including East Jerusalem) along with large parts of Syria and a massive swathe of Egypt.

It was not Likud, or the hardcore religious-Zionist settler colonists who did any of this – it was the Israeli government of the Alignment – the forerunner of the Israeli Labor Party.

Gershom Gorenberg (a US-born Zionist who emigrated to Palestine in 1977 and subsequently became a settler) is a journalist who has written a book on the history of the West Bank settler movement, Accidental Empire.

“Settlement in itself was a core value of Labor Zionism,” Gorenberg explained to Haaretz.

The paper expressed that: “Gorenberg has attempted to dispel the common conception that the settlement enterprise was forced on Israel by a small but highly committed coterie of messianic religious nationalists.”

The religious settlers were a sort of vanguard of course, but they could never act without the planning and go-ahead of the Israeli government.

According to the Haaretz essay, polls taken immediately after Israel’s illegal 1967 invasion and occupation showed that more than 60 per cent of Israelis felt that: “We should go ahead, we should annex everything.”

The essay continues: “Gorenberg mentions a poll from July 1967 showing that 71 per cent of the public was in favour of keeping the West Bank, and 85 per cent the Golan.”

These trends have only magnified over the years.

Polling during Israel’s last massive war of destruction against the Palestinian population of the Gaza Strip showed that almost all Israeli Jews supported the massacre.

Around 2,200 Palestinians were killed, an overwhelming proportion were civilians. This included 500 children (only 71 Israelis were killed by Palestinian resistance fighters – almost all of them were soldiers).

As many as 97 per cent of Israeli Jews supported this atrocity, according to successive polls during the war (a minimum of 92 per cent).

None of this means that Israelis are uniquely war-like or some kind of ultimate metaphysical evil in the world. Far from it.

In actuality, Israel is only one part of the long ignoble, violent history of European and Euro-American settler-colonialism. It has been the norm for hundreds of years, for settler societies to support wars of aggression, massacre and expansion against indigenous populations.

This has been seen all over the world: in North American, southern Africa, Algeria, Australia and New Zealand.

Right up until the end of the apartheid regime in South Africa, for example, almost all white South Africans supported the maintenance of the white supremacist regime, just as almost all Israeli Jews support the Jewish supremacist regime in historic Palestine.

Of course, there are some marginalised (and often brave) Israeli dissidents who have broken ranks and rejected Zionism, those few genuinely support equality, return and liberation, and that is a good thing.

But please, let’s stop deluding ourselves that “Israelis want peace” – it simply isn’t true.
I realized this after seeing this video.
 

Yukon_Niner

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Citizens of Arab shitholes where screaming death to Jews are treated like shit in Israel. Oh no who could've seen this coming?


Israel is going to keep the status quo and there's pretty much nothing Palestine can do about it.
 

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Citizens of Arab shitholes where screaming death to Jews are treated like shit in Israel. Oh no who could've seen this coming?


Israel is going to keep the status quo and there's pretty much nothing Palestine can do about it.
Stupidity.

No-one besides the US supports Israeli annexation.

It would lead to a violation of international law because Palestine is an occupied territory not actually part of Israel.

Israel depends on their western allies and Europe/UK have condemned these actions.

Anyways let's think about the 1.5 billion Muslims who will get angry if Al-Aqsa falls under Israeli control.

3rd Temple mount will be the day of war.
 
This never would have happened if the Palestinian leadership was intelligent. Their first deal, the partition plan, would give the Israelis, 30% of the population, 56% of the land. That land being mostly in the Negev desert. The Palestinians outright refused, citing UN laws and the right to self-determination, and civil war broke out. They were crushed and Israel took even more land than before.

Several Arab-Israeli wars and infitadas later, the deal of the century is presented as all the former deals were rejected. Today, many Arabs shout "death to the Jews" but the reality is that the Jews are feeding the Palestinians. They provide energy, water and even internet. Palestinians live better in Israel than those in the West Bank.

Imagine if they agreed to the partition plan? They would have been treated equally but today, they are a clear enemy to Jews and will not be treated equally. It's no wonder the Israelis don't care about peace.
 

Yukon_Niner

Ugaas of the supreme gentleman
VIP
Stupidity.

No-one besides the US supports Israeli annexation.

It would lead to a violation of international law because Palestine is an occupied territory not actually part of Israel.

Israel depends on their western allies and Europe/UK have condemned these actions.

Anyways let's think about the 1.5 billion Muslims who will get angry if Al-Aqsa falls under Israeli control.

3rd Temple mount will be the day of war.
Kkkkkk little one Europe and the UK want Israel around don't kid yourself.

How do you feel about Israel being a British creation since you love Baba Churchill so much?
 

tyrannicalmanager

pseudo-intellectual
Citizens of Arab shitholes where screaming death to Jews are treated like shit in Israel. Oh no who could've seen this coming?


Israel is going to keep the status quo and there's pretty much nothing Palestine can do about it.
"nooo why are they calling for the death of people who stole there homes and forced them to become stateless refugees!!!"
 

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Kkkkkk little one Europe and the UK want Israel around don't kid yourself.

How do you feel about Israel being a British creation since you love Baba Churchill so much?
:pachah1:So why did the condemn the settlements in the West Bank.

They're for a two state solution nacas.

:salute:I love Churchill. It's way better than supporting Mussolini.

They know annexation will mean war. Jordan threatened Israel too.

the EU is both Israeli/Palestinian partners.

Have you seen the projects the EU set up in Palestine.
 
:pachah1:So why did the condemn the settlements in the West Bank.

They're for a two state solution nacas.

:salute:I love Churchill. It's way better than supporting Mussolini.

They know annexation will mean war. Jordan threatened Israel too.

the EU is both Israeli/Palestinian partners.

Have you seen the projects the EU set up in Palestine.
You have fallen to British propaganda sxb Churchill was a racist man who gets more credit then he should look at how colonialism affected India Churchill didn’t care what happened to them. Don’t believe what they say in school for example in America they teach me that wodrow Wilson was a great president he is the worst in reality. Do some research saxiib instead of believing British propaganda
 

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You have fallen to British propaganda sxb Churchill was a racist man who gets more credit then he should look at how colonialism affected India Churchill didn’t care what happened to them. Don’t believe what they say in school for example in America they teach me that wodrow Wilson was a great president he is the worst in reality. Do some research saxiib instead of believing British propaganda
Idc about Indians sxb:browtf:

Without him Somaliland wouldn't exist:camby:

Winston saved us from the grasps of fascism.

We will never surrender!

WINSTON CHURCHILL V FOR VICTORY WORLD WAR 2 POSTER (A2(594X420MM ...
 

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I know what he done everyone.

I am praising his effort to destroy fascism during WW2
 
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