Is Turkey or the UAE more important for Somalia
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codewebsduh
VIP
Turkey and UAE have been in a ideological battle throughout the m
iddle east and Africa. Here is a great EU report
ecfr.eu
Somalia can benefit by playing them off each other and partnering with the one who offers more investment. Qatar + Turkey are not hesitant in funding Somalia and thus have accumulated most of the political capital through the recognised government of Somalia(including Hargeisa).
I expect Somalia to eventually help form a tri-alliance of Turkey and Qatar.
iddle east and Africa. Here is a great EU report
Useful enemies: How the Turkey-UAE rivalry is remaking the Middle East
Instead of using the UAE to push back against Turkey or vice versa, Europe should develop its own strategy on their rivalry…
ecfr.eu
Somalia can benefit by playing them off each other and partnering with the one who offers more investment. Qatar + Turkey are not hesitant in funding Somalia and thus have accumulated most of the political capital through the recognised government of Somalia(including Hargeisa).
I expect Somalia to eventually help form a tri-alliance of Turkey and Qatar.
codewebsduh
VIP
However due to Biden Turkey and EU have cooled their opposition to each other.
Galmudug-State
VIP
Turkey is better than the Arabs. UAE, Saudi and Qatar are all enemies of the Somali people in particular HAG.
UAE helped Somaliland out of hate for Somalia and has close ties to Puntland and Ahmed Madoobe. You have fly Dubai in Hargeysa and they are investing millions in Berbera port.
They gave weapons and vehicles to Puntland troops but nothing to Galmudug or Hirrshebelle.
Qatar funds Al-shabab and also hates Somalia especially HAG, it has close ties to Farmajoo and Fahad Yassien.
Turkey was pro-HAG until the useless HAG people welcomed Farmajoo because of Somalimo. Then Turkey noticed that HAG are dumb and unreliable people.
One thing that I would say to the Arabs is that HAG will prevail and we won't forget. Somalia's oil and gas is in Hawiye land. We will prevail, inshallah and we won't forget.
UAE helped Somaliland out of hate for Somalia and has close ties to Puntland and Ahmed Madoobe. You have fly Dubai in Hargeysa and they are investing millions in Berbera port.
They gave weapons and vehicles to Puntland troops but nothing to Galmudug or Hirrshebelle.
Qatar funds Al-shabab and also hates Somalia especially HAG, it has close ties to Farmajoo and Fahad Yassien.
Turkey was pro-HAG until the useless HAG people welcomed Farmajoo because of Somalimo. Then Turkey noticed that HAG are dumb and unreliable people.
One thing that I would say to the Arabs is that HAG will prevail and we won't forget. Somalia's oil and gas is in Hawiye land. We will prevail, inshallah and we won't forget.
Iam asking you this as a friend. do You really think rich oil sheikhs from the UAE knows about a clan named habr gedir?
Galmudug-State
VIP
Iam asking you this as a friend. do You really think rich oil sheikhs from the UAE knows about a clan named habr gedir?
HG is the most powerful and richest clan in Somalia. Unfortunately our kryptonite is Somalimo, this is the disease that has stopped us ruling the horn. Parasites have infiltrated us using the wadani card.
Meles blamed his failed invasion not on HG but on just beesha Ceyr. Bill Clinton blamed his failed invasion of Somalia on HG.
Arabs are stupid. They backed Farmajoo and now they see that the langaab ain't going anywhere despite how many millions they pour on him. I don't need Arab charity, HG will thrive on its own wealth and might.
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zaffron
gumeysi diid
Neither give a f*ck about us lol, they're there for their own interests. The UAE has deals with puntland to keep their ports undeveloped so as not to compete with their ports, and Turkey controls mogadishu port and uses it to offload expired turkish goods and not pay taxes on them. It's a massive shit show.
Galmudug-State
VIP
We don't need Arab charity. HAG built this with HAG money. These Arabs give Al-shabab and Farmajoo money to kill us let alone help us. If they only left us alone than that would be a blessing.
Galmudug-State
VIP
So why is UAE developing Somaliland port? Or is it that Somaliland port was already developed and they just put little money and are scamming Somaliland.
Puntland has been loyal to UAE but it gets so little in return. I don't think that they would ever invest in Bosaso port.
However Turkey has done much good for us HAG. I wish Turkey can help Galmudug and Hiirshebelle the same way it helps Mogadishu. For Galmudug I would like Turkey to help us with development and military and bringing out the oil, we are happy to share our resources in return for help. Turkey should think about having bases in Galmudug and Hiirshebelle and lower Shebelle.
Problem is they are competing against each other and so both are useless because those they help or claim to help are busy fighting each other and blocking promised projects that are fake or useless anyways thereby creating more divisions. Dowlada xamar ba naga hortagen hormar keenii every heard that one?
I bet all my money that they see all somalis the same. They dont know anything about somali clans or do they care
bidenkulaha
GalYare
Nah Meles knew his enemy. Lest we forget the man lived in Mogadishu. He had a well known hatred for my people. We saved Somalia from the Habeshis and the Americans.I bet all my money that they see all somalis the same. They dont know anything about somali clans or do they care
Just for this alone the Somali people should be rewarding us the Presidency as a lifetime honour. I’m no qabiilist but I thank for my parents for my noble blood.
I wish that was true. You wouldn't get stuck in inter HAG civil war and abuse other Somalis for 15 years if you truly believed in Somalnimo. Habar Gidir do not understand the importance of consensus.
It is evident in Abdi Qassim Salad couldn't bring order to Mogadisho even though he was Habar Gedir, how are you going to spin that?
You needed a Darood pimp to crack open your skull with Ethiopian hammer to finally submit on all four doggy style and finally understand that violence leads no where.
It is petty that Italians has chosen the capital to be built on Hawiye territory. A great Somali city inhabitaned and ruled by unruly people who thrive on holding the Somali state hostage to their narrow minded interests.
There is absolutely no excuse for Hawiye's failure to consolidate power in Mogadishou and end the civil war for 15 years from 91 to 06. Such a dysfunctional primitive clan that lacks indigenous conflict solving mechanisms like rest of Somalia.
Only clan that lacks Somali sharaf, thrives on chaos and banditry content with holding the Somali nation in limbo so long as they get to keep UN aid pouring on Mogadishou.
Such a useless clan.
Only clan that lacks Somali sharaf, thrives on chaos and banditry content with holding the Somali nation in limbo so long as they get to keep UN aid pouring on Mogadishou.
Such a useless clan.
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You need to calm down
What has HG ever done to you? and were are you from?You need to calm down
After Siad Barre the Habar Gedir take most blame for the Somali civil war. Give me a good reason why they're fighting among themselves and other Hawiya for 15 years in Mogadishou? That's like fighting your own brothers over your father's massive house that you just managed to recover from squatters. How the F do you destroy your own home and than refuse to fix it until some niin cadan ah gives you allowance to do so with Ugandan Body Guard watching over other brothers from blowing it up?
I wouldn't careless about Hawiye but Mogadishou serves as Somali capital the entire country's progress is hampered by their dysfunction and incompetency.
Such a failed clan.
