IS TRUMP COMPROMISED?

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  1. lone

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  2. Oday Sanaag

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    The deep state got him
     
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    Yet people call me a conpiracy theorist just because there are multiple evidence that America, NATO and Israel founded, armed, trained and funds ISIS? The one who was eradicating them was Hezbollah a proxy Iran advanced force that obliterated Israel back in 2006 along with Syrian arm forces that were trained, armed and funded by Russia, China and Iran and you have Russians bombing the shit out of them in air and they were seriously winning the war and Trump accuses Assad using chemical weapons with 0 evidence?

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    Syria and Iraq are both next to Israel.

    The US is just private security for Israel.
     
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    The structure of that conflict is America and Russia who control the two strongest states iran and saudi and they use them to collect further little slaves under their command. It saves america n russia dealing with each and every little nation, they just send in big brother of the region to control you. We are like right at the third level of the relationship and proxies for arabs who are in turn proxies themselves.

    I predict Saudi Arabia is going to have to distance itself from this islamic theology wars, it is losing big time. It's lost Iraq, it's losing Syria, It's not looking good in yemen also, and hamas has gaza on lock who reports to Iran, hezbollah has lebanon on a chokehold who reports to iran. Russia and Iran axis are cleaning up house and winning this. Saudis allies left is egypt and uae basically, qatar is even gone that's how bad it is.

    They have no choice but to change idealogy as this one is clearly not getting them any wins, the funny thing is what they will change too. If they come around and sing the democracy card they basically can win all muslims on their side and make Iran seem like a dictator that isn't desirable and it's allies start to reconsider their relationship.

    But what that type of democracy? this approach of sending arms to cause sectarian rebellion is simply a wasted effort and America doesn't want nothing to do with it, trump recently said they lost 7 trillion there and got nothing to show for it, this religious card was used by America in the cold war to eliminate russia satellites and wane it's influence over the Islamic world, their is something to show for that, ussr is gone and eliminated but what is there to show for this crap that has been on-going since the 90s basically till now? it's nearly 40 years and there is nothing to show for it.
     
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    America has Israel and Saudi and Egypt, that's some fairly big allies. So don't expect them to ever conflict with each other as they report to and receive either aid or military supply from the states and won't ever jepordize that by attacking each other. The last thing these states want is to be in a volatile region where proxy wars is basically the lingua franca and with no big brother looking after them, when the other threatening states clearly have a big brother 'russia'.

    So it's funny when you hear people wanting Saudi and the gulf states to fight Israel, don't ever dream of that. How can the gulfies fight Israel who is a friend of America when the gulfies themselves are friends of America? don't you think that's a little bit of a conflict of interest and could lead to them losing military supplies and protection from the states. I am certain if it came down to choosing between Israel and Saudi, America would choose Israel!!!!

    What suprised the most is the position of Qatar who literally fought back to end this gulf alliance which all report to Saudi Arabia for foreign policy guidance, Qatar also reports to the same big brother the US, absolutely strange indeed and very unusual how and why they broke from Saudi and the impact this could lead too?

    Maybe they realized the states needed them more with those military bases and huge investments they already put into it and wouldn't want to leave it and therefore remain neutral about Qatar breaking the chain of command in the region which is Saudi arabia, because for the US to be without bases in the region, it's empty talk and America has no access to backup it's word or defend any state there in the event of an attack.

    Sure Americans can move to the UAE or somewhere else for a base, but is it location wise near the big states that could threaten Saudi arabia such as Iran and Iraq? I bet Qatar is gateway of sort and probably has borders with the big states Iraq and Iran, so in the event of an attack, America has access to stop the militaries from those sides gaining access to Saudi arabia precious oil-fields which is what it's all about, who-ever controls the oil fields can change policies around the world in their favor because the last thing any country wants is the black oil being embargoed like it was in the 70s and the eventual global shortage disaster that resulted.
     
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    Is it ironic that America never came to the rescue of the Iranian Shah? He fell around the time of the oil embargo, I am thinking America wanted Iran to rise because why in the world was it silent and just stood by when the SHAH was being rampaged around by Russia aligned Ayatollah? I think deep down the Americans wanted to give Saudi competition and a run for it's money in the region, so it doesn't get to big for his pants ever again and cause that sort of oil embargo to happen.

    That oil embargo happened because Saudis basically had no threats in the region and when your threat-less, your capable of anything but when there is a threat near-by your more reasonable and play your cards a bit different and don't make rash decisions such as cutting oil supply lol and effecting global markets and economies.

    Plus having a region where Saudi isn't the king only, means they start to have more dependence on the US to keep it's backside alive and not the other way around which seemed to be the case prior to the Ayatollah rise.

    In all event, I don't see why Israel is complaining or if it's just some crocodile tears. The last thing they want is a middle-east with one commander or idealogy such as arabism as they know what that will lead too for them, it's better for them the structure that is in place now by having Muslims compete against each other and break itself down and in-fact can even lead to them developing friends they never imagined they would because when a man is threatened, he is more negioable and open so they could end up with a few diplomatic wins out of it.
     
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    As for Trump, I really feel for him, this isn't an American president issue, it doesn't matter who is in the white house, that region is very troubled area my friend and he is right about that comment he made. This isn't a failing by international community, the area itself is a mess.

    America can't afford to play this old foreign policy game by selecting the most strongest nation in a region and pumping it up and praying they can create little slave network below them. It has just resulted in some sour grapes in that region who will run to any other global power to begin a resistance and in this case it is Russia and if the right person is in Russia especially PUTIN people who love the glory days of USSR, you will find a pretty workable partner.

    Their gonna have to do something about Russia once and for all as China isn't playing this game well not anyways unless there some nut-case Chinese who ends up in power who wants China power network all over the world. They shouldn't disturb the current order in China, he is very happy with keeping to himself and his area, the last thing you want coming out of there is a Genghis Khan type.
     
  10. Yaquub

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    I thought oil was worthless nowadays due to clean energy.
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  11. DR OSMAN

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    No need for discussion. Let's get Physical
     
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