Is Somalia part of Puntland or is Puntland part of Somalia

[Jaffar]

Puntland predates Somalia on three distinct accounts. Firstly, lets break it down in antiquity, the Land of Udug, dating back to circa 2500 BCE, existed long before the conception of a Somali nation for sure,, although its precise boundaries may have differed, the region we now identify as Puntland was already established. Secondly, the Majeerteen Sultanate a kingdom essentially constituting a Puntland kingdom preceded Italian Somalia and subsequently became an Italian protectorate later on Thus, in this historical context, Puntland existed prior to the formation of Somalia. Thirdly, the modern Puntland government was established in 1998, whereas Somalia’s govt was formally constituted only in 2000 in Carta and only recognised by the US in 2012 Subsequently colonel, Abdullahi Yusuf, former President of Puntland, founded the Transitional Federal Government and relocated to Mogadishu, ef fectively extending Puntland’s political authority into the capital. By this reasoning, Mogadishu may be considered, in practical terms, an extension of Puntland. Therefore, we can honestly say that Puntland is not a constituent part of Somalia rather, Somalia, in its contemporary form, constitutes a part of Puntland indeed, who dissagrees with this then,

 

[Burqad]

Puntland predates Somalia on three distinct accounts. Firstly, lets break it down in antiquity, the Land of Udug, dating back to circa 2500 BCE, existed long before the conception of a Somali nation for sure,, although its precise boundaries may have differed, the region we now identify as Puntland was already established. Secondly, the Majeerteen Sultanate a kingdom essentially constituting a Puntland kingdom preceded Italian Somalia and subsequently became an Italian protectorate later on Thus, in this historical context, Puntland existed prior to the formation of Somalia. Thirdly, the modern Puntland government was established in 1998, whereas Somalia’s govt was formally constituted only in 2000 in Carta and only recognised by the US in 2012 Subsequently colonel, Abdullahi Yusuf, former President of Puntland, founded the Transitional Federal Government and relocated to Mogadishu, ef fectively extending Puntland’s political authority into the capital. By this reasoning, Mogadishu may be considered, in practical terms, an extension of Puntland. Therefore, we can honestly say that Puntland is not a constituent part of Somalia rather, Somalia, in its contemporary form, constitutes a part of Puntland indeed, who dissagrees with this

Puntland is not a part of Somalia but a part of the Somali republic and the Somali nation, whose interests have nothing to do with Villa “Somalia” and the Halane Regime

 

[cunug3aad]

Is jubaland not part of somalia now or buunlan somehow orchestrated the circus down there. Or because xamar government was instated through works of puntites therefore everywhere in somalia is puntland and somalia and puntland refer to the same thing

 

[Jaffar]

It all comes down on perspective who came first yaa lugu daydey ya waxan oo aasasay ma kuwi sameye mise kuwii loo sameeyey

 

[cunug3aad]

It all comes down on perspective who came first yaa lugu daydey ya waxan oo aasasay ma kuwi sameye mise kuwii loo sameeyey

Puntlaand waxay dowladda somaliya sameyeen inay wax faaiido leh ka sii heshaan yacni power and influence, they want to have some sort of control over the whole country. Lakn puntland weli waa gobol bis madaxweyne na weli wa hawiye. If deni or some other person out of puntland got to president then maybe they can increase their influence over the country and maybe then your idea will have something behind it

 

[Jaffar]

Xassan isaga ka damebeye dadka oo dhan ama somalia madaxweyne horta uma aha xassan wa madaxweynaha dawlada kumeel gaadhka eeh xamar. he has no influance over that so puntland isnt part of Somalia , Puntland is the founder of what was the Somali nation ,

 

[The Oponian Guild]

somalia, Somali nationalism, standard Somali, all created by north easterners who had grown up in and carried the ideology of the two sultanates (that all Somali lands must be conquered eventually) this is where somaliweyn ideology comes from.

You didn’t see koonfur, people from galbeed or waqooyi advocating for a Somalia, it was inorganic in that sense. It was mostly driven by my countrymen. We even invented Hawo Tako, allowed for the sayyid to be added into the National narrative and sanitised his image from that of a cruel and vicious warlord to that of a religious leader.

Somalia ofc couldn’t be held together by such flimsy and weak ideology, it wouldn’t be long before clan interests came to the fore, which is what eventually happened, i say let’s leave it in the past, Somalia is over.