Is bosaso in koofur or waqooyi?

Is bosaso in waqooyi or koofur?


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The poll numbers as they right now are very telling. Even on a site with a MJ leaning like SSpot, 88% recognise that Majeertenia is either reer Koonfur or reer Bari.
Never in history has the term reer Waqooyi been used to refer to Majeertenia. I don't know why they seem ashamed of their Konfuurian or Bari roots.
 
The average lander refers to Puntland as Bari since it’s to the east and we’re both north. If you see a lander use koonfur in reference to majerteeniya it’s just a political term dating back to colonial period. Nothing to do with geography because they were ruled by the Italians from the south which was the capital of their Somali colony.
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These are photos of boqor osman of majerteeniya who was ordered to come to Mogadishu by his rulers. They even arrested him during this trip. Kenadiid was also arrested couple times by his Italian leaders. We view puntites no different from the southerners of that time.
 
Mogadishu is the capital of hargeysa and buuhoodle
I will not insult the lovely people of Mogadishu because a certain clan that starts with a D is tryna cause beef between two friendly brothers and sisters.

Anyways we both know your uncle can't step foot in SL without him being arrested and the border village belongs to Abiy & Muuse whether you like it or not :heh:
 
Mj was known as gumarsoor which means basically east people Bari.

How can other people define what you are.

the bell curve of the Somali. The dumb bringing down the smart.
 

TekNiKo

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North has always been historically the Waqooyi Galbeed, Awdal and Sanaag regions. Even Sool would be considered “northerners”. Anything past Sool and Sanaag would be considered “reer koonfur”.
 
Somali culture has small variants perhaps it can be summed up in differences in accents and Bari has unique Rer Bari accent, there is no common southern accent, unless you think all the south sound like Rer Xamar.

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Southern dialect is euphamism for Af Gogol Xaar. The other dialect is the Northern dialect aka Af Gogol Xaadh. The subcialects of AfGogold Xaadh include the agah awowga la gub, huuno, and eeyaahee. The subcialects of Af Gogol Xaar include Af Abaayo, af Boowe, and af yaakhee etc. but there is a lot of mixing as you said. The one thing that doesnt change to is the gogolXaad vs Gogol Xaar. Af xaadh vs Af xaar thats constant. Af gogol xaar is politely called the Southern dialect


We are reer bari and historically the area between bosaso to galkacyo was referred to as Majeerteenia. This whole north and south was created by the colonials and a certain people are fixated on it since they had no history before that.:chrisfreshhah:

The south is diverse and politically we've had our eyes set on mogadishu for more than half a century. Culturally/linguistically we're different than the rest of Somaliweyn.:farole:

The Migiurtinia province from Italian era to 1960s was roughly equivalent to what is now Nugaa/Bari. Northern Mudug was part of a larger province called Mudugh, which included Galgaduud and modernMudug aka Galmudug

Every inch of PL is in Bari.
Anything above Galkayo is Reer Bari aka PL.
Any Harti clan in PL is known as Reer Bari.
That’s warsangali MJ etc etc etc

The Reer koonfur term is used by hargeisa folk to pump life in their separatist dream in causing division. Basically colonial worship.

Newsflash though : Reer buuhodles capital is xamar so koonfur is where the power and relevance is !

Bari region doesnt include Burtinle let alone Gaalkacyo. By PL, I must assume you mean the territories that used to be known as Migiurtinia, which never included Gaalkacyo. Because Gaalkacyo was part of Mudugh province. Mudugh province used to include Galgaduud aka the old Mudug was roughly the same as Galmudug. Stop making the case for Qorqoor to annex Gaalkacyo

Bosaso is in Bari, it is not koonfur. Koonfur is everything south of Nugaal.

They are politically southern but you may be right that culturally they are rerBari therefore they are not reerMudug. But if there is a North/South dichotomy then Boosaaso is culturally/linguistically/politically southern
 
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Southern dialect is euphamism for Af Gogol Xaar. The other dialect is the Northern dialect aka Af Gogol Xaadh. The subcialects of AfGogold Xaadh include the agah awowga la gub, huuno, and eeyaahee. The subcialects of Af Gogol Xaar include Af Abaayo, af Boowe, and af yaakhee etc. but there is a lot of mixing as you said. The one thing that doesnt change to is the gogolXaad vs Gogol Xaar. Af xaadh vs Af xaar thats constant. Af gogol xaar is politely called the Southern dialect




The Migiurtinia province from Italian era to 1960s was roughly equivalent to what is now Nugaa/Bari. Northern Mudug was part of a larger province called Mudugh, which included Galgaduud and modernMudug aka Galmudug



Bari region doesnt include Burtinle let alone Gaalkacyo. By PL, I must assume you mean the territories that used to be known as Migiurtinia, which never included Gaalkacyo. Because Gaalkacyo was part of Mudugh province. Mudugh province used to include Galgaduud aka the old Mudug was roughly the same as Galmudug. Stop making the case for Qorqoor to annex Gaalkacyo



They are politically southern but you may be right that culturally they are rerBari therefore they are not reerMudug. But if there is a North/South dichotomy then Boosaaso is culturally/linguistically/politically southern

Listen, don’t play smart when 30+ plus you have been unrecognised.
1 clan vs gadbursi/dhulos/warsangali are 5th columns.
Secondly Harti is not Isaaq.
Somaliland = isaaq.

so that’s cleared up, so this waaqoyi koonfur play thing is just pure juvenile politics.

Do not mention your British daddy for every political point.

Reer Bari = MJ from galkcayo to Bossaso (even dubeys and 10 other smaller clans are Reer Bari)
Reer Mudug = MJ/Leelkase(southern Reer Mudug is our HG brothers)

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The only reason why puntland is sometimes classed as Reer koonfur is due to it being a Italian colony later

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regardless of a compass, just learn this map and weep

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Everyone that voted konfuur was Isaaq and everyone else put Bari. Someone tell them this ain’t the colonial times lol
 
Listen, don’t play smart when 30+ plus you have been unrecognised.
1 clan vs gadbursi/dhulos/warsangali are 5th columns.
Secondly Harti is not Isaaq.
Somaliland = isaaq.

so that’s cleared up, so this waaqoyi koonfur play thing is just pure juvenile politics.

Do not mention your British daddy for every political point.

Read the 1960 Law ofUnion

That the component administrative units of the Government of the Somali
Republic until more suitable administrative arrangements are made, shall be,
firstly, the region comprising the territories contained in the boundaries of the
presently existing State of Somaliland (hereafter referred to as “the Northern
Region
”) and, secondly, those presently existing territories which comprise the
six Regions of Migiurtinia, Mudugh, Hiran, Banadir, Alta Giuba and Baso Giuba
all in Somalia (hereinafter collectively referred to as “the second named
Regions
”).

The second named region is different from the Northern region aka the second region is the South aka Migiurtinia is part of the South

Everyone that voted konfuur was Isaaq and everyone else put Bari. Someone tell them this ain’t the colonial times lol

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This is not about British or colonial era. Its a political/linguistic/cultural fact that Boosaaso is part of the South aka the region where they pronounce gogol xaadh as gogol xaar, the Southern region according the the 1960 Soomliland law of union
 
Read the 1960 Law ofUnion



The second named region is different from the Northern region aka the second region is the South aka Migiurtinia is part of the South



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This is not about British or colonial era. Its a political/linguistic/cultural fact that Boosaaso is part of the South aka the region where they pronounce gogol xaadh as gogol xaar, the Southern region according the the 1960 Soomliland law of union
The
the second named
Regions is not the southern region.
So nice try.

the bottom line is that the narrative can not be controlled by you. You can oppress other clans that neighbour you.
But don’t even try telling us what we are.

isaaq = Waaqoyi
Darood = Waaqoyi Bari Koonfur Galbeed. NFD Ethiopia.

Darood see the Horn of Africa as our degaan but you are stuck with what your colonial daddy left for you in your 1 region of actually Waaqoyi Galbeedz
 
The
the second named
Regions is not the southern region.
So nice tryS

Whatever you want to call the second region is what Migiurtnia province and Boosaaso belong to. Lets rename the second named region as the newNorth and the old North will renamed South if it makes you feel better

Darood see the Horn of Africa as our degaan but you are stuck with what your colonial daddy left for you in your 1 region of actually Waaqoyi Galbeedz

The horn of africa is the Samaale/Irir region and the Soomaali language is named after the larger Samaale confederation not the smaller Jabarti confederation. Stop this negative tribalism

the bottom line is that the narrative can not be controlled by you. You can oppress other clans that neighbour you.
But don’t even try telling us what we are.

Im against oppression of any clan. I support democracy under JSL for the region formerly known as the North aka JSL and I aslo want JSL/oldNorth which includes easternSool/Badhan to reunite with the "second named region"or whatever we rename the old South and ofc the "second named region" includes Boosaaso
 

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