Is anyone else angry Somali history before colonization is not well known?

[DangerBadan]

This is why history collection and literature is important so people in the future know about us.

 

[Odious Delirium]

Pov: HabarSteven12 when she catches wind of this post

 

[GemState]

What history? Essentially internecine tribal conflict stretching a millenia. The only really 3 events notable was The adoption of Islam, Futuh al Habash and the crossing into Northern Kenya. That's pretty much it. Not very glorious, but quite decent for an African ethnic group.

Even the Sayyid was not really pre colonial as more of a reaction to colonialism. But really, pre 1880, not much happened. Can't be compared to something like Zemene Mesafint in Ethiopia for example.

 

[DangerBadan]

the crossing into Northern Kenya

When did this happen?

There was also a famine hundreds of years ago that wiped out almost all Somalis.

 

[HabarSteven12]

Pov: HabarSteven12 when she catches wind of this post

What history? Essentially internecine tribal conflict stretching a millenia. The only really 3 events notable was The adoption of Islam, Futuh al Habash and the crossing into Northern Kenya. That's pretty much it. Not very glorious, but quite decent for an African ethnic group.

Even the Sayyid was not really pre colonial as more of a reaction to colonialism. But really, pre 1880, not much happened. Can't be compared to something like Zemene Mesafint in Ethiopia for example.

Just please read the paragraph above. Literally summarizes my main point.. I guess I am not the only one who firmly believes in my perspective.

 

[Nin123]

This is why history collection and literature is important so people in the future know about us.

Will Somali history is oral tradition just ask oday about Somali culture

 

[HabarSteven12]

What history? Essentially internecine tribal conflict stretching a millenia. The only really 3 events notable was The adoption of Islam, Futuh al Habash and the crossing into Northern Kenya. That's pretty much it. Not very glorious, but quite decent for an African ethnic group.

Even the Sayyid was not really pre colonial as more of a reaction to colonialism. But really, pre 1880, not much happened. Can't be compared to something like Zemene Mesafint in Ethiopia for example.

Bro we wuz kings and shit. We noble Macrobians ruled the world. We have a rich civilization and culture that dates back to centuries. We wuz trading with the romans and shit. Even the Greeks and Arabs wrote about how noble Somalis were. You ajanabi larpers are obsessed with us. You guys have no culture and history worth claiming. You guys were slaves while we wuz the land of Punt and shit. Amxaariod and bantu slaves are jealous of us noble Macrobians.

 

[Somali_patriotic]

What history? Essentially internecine tribal conflict stretching a millenia. The only really 3 events notable was The adoption of Islam, Futuh al Habash and the crossing into Northern Kenya. That's pretty much it. Not very glorious, but quite decent for an African ethnic group.

Even the Sayyid was not really pre colonial as more of a reaction to colonialism. But really, pre 1880, not much happened. Can't be compared to something like Zemene Mesafint in Ethiopia for example.

And The spread of coffe + islamisation of numerous neighbouring tribes ?

 

[BetterDaysAhead]

There hasn’t been much archaeological excavation done in Somalia to unravel more of our ancient history but this study that I found highlights some very ancient history of ours

Social and Economic Developments in Pre-Islamic Somalia: Introducing African-Arabian-Mediterranean Interaction

Although the history of Somalia is poorly studied, occasional researches show that the nation has a rich, ancient history. The purpose of this chapter is to explore the evolution of Somali society and aspects of their economy throughout circa 3000 BCE–500 CE. During 1960s–1980s, it has been...

www.intechopen.com

Also it’s best to focus more on improving our present state rather than worrying too much about the past. There are nations today that lacked an impressive ancient history that are outperforming other nations that had a more impressive history.

 

[dekiteshim]

And The spread of coffe + islamisation of numerous neighbouring tribes ?
Also what's the difference between "Zemene Mesafint" and tribal conflicts
It really resembles when Digil, bimal and hawiye fought over merka city

For one, the Zemene Mesafint was recorded. Distinct political system. Zemene Mesafint was essentially the nation building of modern Ethiopia

 

[Somali_patriotic]

For one, the Zemene Mesafint was recorded. Distinct political system. Zemene Mesafint was essentially the nation building of modern Ethiopia

You're right
I actually just read about it, i wasn't very informed on that matter
But it was a big mistake Ethiopia should've never formed

 

[HabarSteven12]

What history? Essentially internecine tribal conflict stretching a millenia. The only really 3 events notable was The adoption of Islam, Futuh al Habash and the crossing into Northern Kenya. That's pretty much it. Not very glorious, but quite decent for an African ethnic group.

Even the Sayyid was not really pre colonial as more of a reaction to colonialism. But really, pre 1880, not much happened. Can't be compared to something like Zemene Mesafint in Ethiopia for example.

@Bari🐍 Can you believe what this amxaariod is saying about us noble Macrobians. These Ajanabi larpers are obsessed with us. We wuz literally kings and shit.

 

[HabarSteven12]

What history? Essentially internecine tribal conflict stretching a millenia. The only really 3 events notable was The adoption of Islam, Futuh al Habash and the crossing into Northern Kenya. That's pretty much it. Not very glorious, but quite decent for an African ethnic group.

Even the Sayyid was not really pre colonial as more of a reaction to colonialism. But really, pre 1880, not much happened. Can't be compared to something like Zemene Mesafint in Ethiopia for example.

1. Most Somalis converted to Islam in the 15th century. Somalis don't have a long tradition and history with Islam.

2. Futush al Habash had nothing to do with Somalis. Arab faqiqh states, "Ethio-Semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population." Most Somalis were reluctant to join the jihad against Ethiopia. They cited their impoverished condition as a reason for not joining the Jihad. Once again, Somalis were just nomads roaming around the desert during the Futush-al-Habesh period.

3. Somali nomads are constantly on the move in search of water and pasture. They keep moving because most of their places are uninhabitable due to the harsh climate and scarce resources. Nomadic societies are generally lawless and anarchic. Somalis only have a history of never ending tribal conflicts.

The nomadic Somali tribes have invaded and forcefully occupied parts of the present state of Somalia, Ethiopia and Kenya which were populated by non-ethnic groups.

 

[Bari🐍]

Oh hell nah, the sheegato arrived on the scene like a vulture

 

[GemState]

1. Most Somalis converted to Islam in the 15th century. Somalis don't have a long tradition and history with Islam.

2. Futush al Habash had nothing to do with Somalis. Arab faqiqh states, "Ethio-Semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population." Most Somalis were reluctant to join the jihad against Ethiopia. They cited their impoverished condition as a reason for not joining the Jihad. Once again, Somalis were just nomads roaming around the desert during the Futush-al-Habesh period.

3. Somali nomads are constantly on the move in search of water and pasture. They keep moving because most of their places are uninhabitable due to the harsh climate and scarce resources. Nomadic societies are generally lawless and anarchic. Somalis only have a history of never ending tribal conflicts.

The nomadic Somali tribes have invaded and forcefully occupied parts of the present state of Somalia, Ethiopia and Kenya which were populated by non-ethnic groups.

Self hating nonsense.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Even the Sayyid was not really pre colonial as more of a reaction to colonialism. But really, pre 1880, not much happened. Can't be compared to something like Zemene Mesafint in Ethiopia for example.

Zemene Mesafint and what happened in Southern Somaliweyn is basically the same other than one being more recorded

 

[Emir of Zayla]

1. Most Somalis converted to Islam in the 15th century. Somalis don't have a long tradition and history with Islam.

2. Futush al Habash had nothing to do with Somalis. Arab faqiqh states, "Ethio-Semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population." Most Somalis were reluctant to join the jihad against Ethiopia. They cited their impoverished condition as a reason for not joining the Jihad. Once again, Somalis were just nomads roaming around the desert during the Futush-al-Habesh period.

3. Somali nomads are constantly on the move in search of water and pasture. They keep moving because most of their places are uninhabitable due to the harsh climate and scarce resources. Nomadic societies are generally lawless and anarchic. Somalis only have a history of never ending tribal conflicts.

The nomadic Somali tribes have invaded and forcefully occupied parts of the present state of Somalia, Ethiopia and Kenya which were populated by non-ethnic groups.

Ridiculous

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

What history? Essentially internecine tribal conflict stretching a millenia. The only really 3 events notable was The adoption of Islam, Futuh al Habash and the crossing into Northern Kenya. That's pretty much it. Not very glorious, but quite decent for an African ethnic group.

Even the Sayyid was not really pre colonial as more of a reaction to colonialism. But really, pre 1880, not much happened. Can't be compared to something like Zemene Mesafint in Ethiopia for example.

The Ethiopian hate for Somalis really needs to be studied. I can understand us hating you for ocupiying our land but nobody’s history is insignificant. Also you cherry pick oral tradition to degrade our history but that same oral tradition elavates and even at times exaggerate our history. Pick your poison .

 

[Bari🐍]

We are an oral based society, a lot of our history is not written down. For example the story of how the Ajuuran was taken down was spread through oral stories down generations.

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

I believe this stinky Habeshis on here are jealous that we became the only ethnic group with two nations. They are all peasants for empire l states with no history to claim but that of an emperor who enslaved and sold them. The very fact that we for the most part overcame their masters hurts them. We kept them landlocked and now with Eritrea doing the same they cry like dhocilo.