Increasing the Somali peninsular surface and underground water

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felloff

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Somali Peninsular Rivers Project SPRP

(Please don't derail the topic, i will try remain pc, Somali peninsular will be the given name to the area.)

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The northern Somali region is blessed with mountains, mountains form rivulets, streams which when joined with other streams,rivulets lead to rivers. Essentially with engineering you could make a river like the shabelle from the togdheere one, Another benefit in this region is the nugaal depression which is in very lowland, if enough water is collected the water could form a lake like the lake volta, garowe and towns leading to eyl could be flooded but, droughts would become a thing of the past. Thats just one example of how using new techniques such as river rejuvenation, and rainwater harvesting plus mass tree planting could help turn these seasonal streams into perennial rivers.

The abundance of water would allow the population to move from environmentally damaging nomadism into a farming society with a better chance for somali region to get it;s first agricultural revolution, doesn't mean we have to stop livestock-raising, no we could do it better by controlling grazing and use of the new abundance of surface water.

Another benefit is electricity production, as we know ethiopia is building a lot of dams on the shabeele which is effecting how much water the river is getting, if the somali population in Ethiopia use rainwater harvesting and river rejuvenation in the fanfen and other seasonal streams that used to lead into the shabeele the water amount entering the shabelle would increase allowing the water to join with the juba later on like it normally does when high water levels allow it do due so, this will also allow for farming opportunities and electrically production in both the Ethiopian somali region and the shabeele and juba region, same goes for the kenyan somali region the which has many seasonal streams/rivers which lead into the juba or the laga dhere river, same benefits as the others.

The somali peninsular best assets is it's people, the river projects could help uplift somalis from all region and be benfitale for all.

Main priority rivers i can see is the togadhere, daroor, Juba , Shabele and the Laga dhere.

In india villagers brought back many dead rivers a good example is the Arvari a 90km river that was perennial but became seasonal then dead due to mans abuse of it and the uncontrolled grazing, the people started creating johads and other rainwater harvesting techniques and after a few rain seasons the river started lasting longer and longer till it staid perennial, the people benefited and started farms and diary farms.

Another step after river restorations could be river linking essentially bringing excess water from other rivers to an lesser river to increase water levels. But that's more expensive and a future dream.

It cost roughly 1.5 million to bring back the 90km arvari to life. Small cost for a big reward.

A plan that could work is for a somali charity or fund, that funds small projects that could lead to this, maybe giving your zakaat money to this project. Somali water fund,maybe someone who knows engineering and rain water harvesting i will link videos below and other similar projects across the world that could help.

I know this project has a slim chance of happening but i'm trying to raise awareness maybe someone in the future might do this, maybe the government might see this idk.
 

felloff

FA'CASH GANG BABY
Short Term, easiset to conduct, good for seasonal river/streams.

River Rally, happening in India to help make awareness of dying rivers and solving it, using water harvesting techniques such as johads in collaborations with Tree planting and agrofoestry to help the small water cycle increase rainfall, which would thus icnrease water levels.

Short to Mid term plan


Mid to long term plan

River Rejuvenation good for Fanfen and other tributires to larger rivers. Could increase Juba/Shabelles flow if the rejuvenation happens in Somali and In the bordering countries.


Long term plan

River Linking Furutistic, maybe link Juba with shabeele or Shabeele with Ogaden basin rivers.
 

felloff

FA'CASH GANG BABY
Arvari River

India- Arvari Catchment

Water harvesting in the Arvari catchment - reduce siltation and raise water table

Summary

Communities with support from a local NGO have paid for the construction of new water storage devices and forest regeneration on upstream, degraded slopes. This is an interesting example of a watershed management initiative that has produced the desired benefits- that is, increase water availability throughout the year. However, as this involves intra-village agreements to tackle environmental problems, with no separate identification of buyers and sellers, it is not strictly a PES scheme.

Maturity of the initiative

Mature - initiated in 1986

Driver

Water flow in the Arvari river had reduced considerably in the last decades, becoming either a temporary stream during the monsoon or remaining completely dry the entire year. Faced with increasing concern over future water supplies and indifference from Government, the local communities, together with the NGO Tarun Bharat Sangh (TBS), began building Johads* on their lands to collect rain and increase infiltration in order to recharge ground water reserves and eventually increase the flow of the Arvari river.

* Johads are earthen structures built across a slope to retain run off and sediments; sometimes a series of them are constructed to hold the run-off from one structure to the next.

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Stakeholders

Supply
Private individuals : increased water supplies are to be achieved through traditional water harvesting techniques involving a dual focus on construction of new water storage facilities and forest regeneration on upstream degraded slopes. Over the last decade, local villages have invested in building seventeen water structures and regenerating several hundred hectares of forestland.

Demand
Private individuals in the Bhaonta-Kolyala villages of the Arvari catchment who depend on continued water supplies for agriculture and animal husbandry. The twin villages are two of the seventy located in the catchment area and have a total population of about 600 and cover 1,200 ha. (covering about 25% of costs).
Donors, government, other sources (about 75% of costs), facilitated through TBS. Funding for TBS comes from various agencies in Europe, as well as the Ford Foundation, OXFAM India, and some government agencies.

Intermediary
CBO (Community based organization).

Facilitator
NGO Tarun Bharat Sangh (facilitator).

http://www.tarunbharatsangh.org/about/history.htm)
Main policy lessons

This example illustrates the very long-term nature of watershed management, especially in situations of limited funding and mistrust from local communities. However, it is interesting to see how relatively simple systems that produce recognisable direct benefits become catalysts for change in the longer term.

The Arvari example illustrates the success of linking people with the landscape and involving local communities in restoration and protection efforts using traditional methods for water harvesting.

Lessons on social institutions : TBS’s work with villages has five lessons:

  • A collective effort from the villagers in which all would benefit;
  • Conceived in an atmosphere of informal communication;
  • All decisions would be strictly enforced;
  • Each person in the collective community would be individually responsible to carry out the tasks;
  • The community would only use outside help as a catalyst for guidance.
Discussions with the villagers, revealed that they could provide most of the materials required themselves, except technical help. TBS always insisted that in some way or another, the community would have to bear at least 25 percent of the cost of repair, and after they worked out the benefits, the community would always agree.
Other information

The same scheme was also implemented in the Ruparel watershed where 219 bandhs and johads were built with the financial support of the Swedish International Agency, in the late 1980s and with the same positive results.
 
:salute:smart plan.

We need to work on water security and make our Nomads less nomadic, the same way Ethiopia is settling Somali nomads near the river and teaching them to farm.
 
:salute:smart plan.

We need to work on water security and make our Nomads less nomadic, the same way Ethiopia is settling Somali nomads near the river and teaching them to farm.


You would shit you’re pants if you learned how much fresh water goes into the Indian Ocean.
 

felloff

FA'CASH GANG BABY
You would shit you’re pants if you learned how much fresh water goes into the Indian Ocean.

i know a lot goes into the indian ocean carrying rich sediments and stuff, that probably why fishes love somali seas, if we do start damning fishes would decrease. Maybe f*ck knows
 
You would shit you’re pants if you learned how much fresh water goes into the Indian Ocean.
Most of fresh water rivers are in the south. It'd be beneficial if the north and central had access to a river and turned our Nomads into farmers. Hydropower projects could be useful to
 
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i know a lot goes into the indian ocean carrying rich sediments and stuff, that probably why fishes love somali seas, if we do start damning fishes would decrease. Maybe f*ck knows

Too many children died while walking above under ground river beds. How can Country with so much fish have so many children passing away to famine?
 
Flooding from Garowe to Eyl wouldn't be feasible, I don't think the MJs would be too keen on that.

If empty barren lands with the least amount of urban development was flooded instead probably it could work. We'd also have to make sure there's no exploitable resources on the ground we flood
 

felloff

FA'CASH GANG BABY
Flooding from Garowe to Eyl wouldn't be feasible, I don't think the MJs would be too keen on that.

If empty barren lands with the least amount of urban development was flooded instead probably it could work. We'd also have to make sure there's no exploitable resources on the ground we flood

The damn wouldn't happen unless a river high enough could be created. The lake in nugaal is just a plan that probably won't happen.
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
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The north doesn't have water harvesting history. This plan is good for people that had such a history and wants to revive it.

Aside from the operational challenges and convincing clans to flood their land, this plan also needs a total lifestyle change. A change from pastoralism to agriculture.
 
I’ve actually been thinking about redirecting the two rivers north to Puntland so it covers more area of the country.


But dunno if rivers can be moved...
 

felloff

FA'CASH GANG BABY
The north doesn't have water harvesting history. This plan is good for people that had such a history and wants to revive it.

Aside from the operational challenges and convincing clans to flood their land, this plan also needs a total lifestyle change. A change from pastoralism to agriculture.

With more livestock dying and people losing their livelihood, a cultural/agricultural and a social change is needed.
 

LittleNileRiver

Keepin Southies in check since 1998
Garowe has a population of 100,000 and the best city planning in Puntland. How can we make the river perennial if it means making the capital cease to exist?
What about the Dharoor basin?
 
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