Federalism I agree with but confederation no. Once al shabaab is defeated there wonβt be any more civil wars in the south or Somalia in general .therefore, when this happens, each state should integrate its forces to the national army and they 100% can have their own state police and take care of their own state buisness on a national level e.d education, healthcare and so forth. Only time we come together is on an international level. This will 100% make sure somalia never goes into turmoil again as power isnβt centralised
OPINION Ina Sharmarke Is Pro Centralism
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You have high hopes for certain Somalis not trying to instigate more civil wars. For example, Galmudug was built by Puntland in order for Federalism to be achieved and when it was founded it was only comprised of Sacad regions. Instead of being grateful and productive with this support, HG repaid us by constantly launching attacks on our land, they only gave up in 2019 when they realised they are too weak to win.
However, rest assured, the minute they think they can pose a threat, it will start again. For example; look at what's happening now, it's 2021, AlShabab is taking their land but HG is too busy trying to steal more land from their fellow Galmudugians (Marehans). Even though Puntite troops were sent to help secure Galmudug from AlShaydan, they are on this forum and other places, calling for attacks on North Mudug and making false claims on our ancestral land.
Furthermore, other Hawiye help them with their delusion and draw fake maps for them. It is clear that we need as much autonomy as possible from each other.
Did nazy burn one their germny village to groundAll the millions of Jews, disabled, Blacks, Gypsies.
Where did you think most of them came from?
.@Pwyneth Galtrow I get where you're coming from and I too would support confederalism to a degree as well. When I said Central government I was talking about federal government not the central government of a unitary country (federal government means central government of a federal country after all). You can disagree with me but as long as Somalia is one country anyone who becomes President of our country regardless of their subclan they will I believe want to fully control every inch of Somalia as a whole
Did nazy burn one their germny village to ground
First you said they didnβt massacre anyone and now youβre talking about villages.
Talk about shifting the goalposts.
Because I live in Australia which is a functional federal government.
So I want the same in Somalia.
Iβm not going to change the rule book just because it hurts peoples qabiil-sensibilities.
So you love Somalia more than either Puntland or your clan MJ? I too love Somalia more than my clan or my FMS yet I am a quasi confederalist who supports a weak federal government
Itβs not really about loving Somalia, itβs about whatβs best for Somalis.
If we were better in a confederation, I would support it.
But it isnβt.
Nazy attacked people are not part of them. Kacaan attacked clans was part of national army!!.
Most of the victims of the Nazi regime were German citizens.
They were not part of nazy army like us!!.
MT Foxtrot
Anti-qabil
I'm shocked this needed to be stated at all. Centralism is a form of government model where ultimate authority resides with the central government. Integrating federal military forces under one command changes nothing about the political structure of Somalia. We'll still be a federal country.
Each US state has a national guard. Itβs the FGS job to recruit from every region which they have failed miserably. Tedakale, we in PL donβt have an army. We only have Police and state security forces
I agree. Farmaajo fucked things up . Also tirk
Yeah I agree the government failed. Inshallah the next president can make sure every region brings military forces to the army
Farmaajo rejected integration of 2,400 able bodied Puntites, all expenses paid for. Next time they have the audacity to utter integration, they need to come bowl in hand, useless motherf'ers.
Ideally heβs right, any country no matter the system of governance should have one armed forces. But we are so far from there and farmajo has made that more difficult with the way he has politicized the national army against his political opponents
Here OP goes with slandering NISA. In the past 4 years NISA has become a world-class intelligence agency. It's out there, anyone with a brain can see that's the case. Even matt bryden the war profiteer admitted NISA has now been turned to highly functional agency that is way different from whatever it was back in 2017.
Moreover, NISA and PSF can't be compared. Where does PSF operate? Galgala mountains? NISA is a federal agency operating all over somalia plus competing with foreign intelligence agencies, they are not on the same scale. PSF is struggling routing out AS who are mainly from their clan but different subclans. While NISA is dealing with all clans everywhere. Not comparable.
Moreover, NISA and PSF can't be compared. Where does PSF operate? Galgala mountains? NISA is a federal agency operating all over somalia plus competing with foreign intelligence agencies, they are not on the same scale. PSF is struggling routing out AS who are mainly from their clan but different subclans. While NISA is dealing with all clans everywhere. Not comparable.
