Implications of East Asia imploding

[GemState]

"Assuming that China is lucky enough to stabilize its fertility rate at 1.0, its population will fall to 1.06 billion in 2050 and 390 million in 2100"

Keep in mind that is very likely an overestimate as a province in China called Heilongjiang has a TFR of 0.6 and falling while the Ethnic Chinese in Malaysia have a TFR of 0.77 and in some regions its as low as 0.53. It is going to get a lot worse.

Just like the massive demographic losses and stagnation of Russia was the most important geopolitical fact about the 20th century, as the general relative decline of Europe, the depopulation of China and East Asia is the most important event of the 21st century.

 

[GemState]

All technological development that defines the modern world was built circa 1870-1970. We’re coasting off that inheritance, and there’s no plan for what to do after demographic growth turns into a demographic slump.

The post-war economic boom is a demographic ponzi scheme. Once population growth slows worldwide we’re in for a world of trouble and concepts like GDP and even “long term growth” are going to be thrown out the window.

We have around 2 decades to get out of our current slump before the decline is irreversible. Living standards will continuously decline.

 

[chronic]

They said Asia was the future, but is it?

 

[johnsepei5]

Screw Africa population I only care about cushitic population
Bantus are going to dominate us
If we don’t get our population up

 

[Keo]

South Korea started implementing something similar to China's one-child policy during the 1960s, at least 2 decades before China began implementing theirs, when women in South Korea were having just under six children on average.

These policies lasted until the 1990s. The government discouraged families from having babies, and at one point, similar to China, boys were favored over girls. It wasn’t until the mid to late 1990s when South Korea’s birth rates first began to fall, that they realized the mistakes they’ve made. However, by then, the Asian financial crisis of 1997 had occurred, and South Korea's economy crashed. They were unable to reverse their mistakes, and today, you can see the effects of these changes that began in the 1960s, with South Korea having one of the lowest birth rates in the world.

South Korea had a gender imbalance with 115 men to every 100 women until the year 2003. Their rapid decline in birth rates actually helped contribute to reversing these gender imbalances.

 

[Ozymandias]

Thats why alot of governments are pro immigration lowkey, there is talk of lowering immigrations in parliament, but nothing comes out of it

 

[Duke$]

Africa needs to watch out china wants to colonize us

 

[Abdisamadi]

It’s interesting watching westerns talk about liberalism “hitting a wall” so to speak. This is something individualism and hedonism can’t fix on its own. Before in historical times usually the cities lifestyle were carried by slaves or rural people

 

[xxx_newacc]

Thats why alot of governments are pro immigration lowkey, there is talk of lowering immigrations in parliament, but nothing comes out of it

Yeah, many western govts recognise that they need legal immigration for labour. The problem is when the crazies aren’t vetted properly.

 

[Gaandheri]

This was way planned before there going to depopulate the planet.

 

[World]

Thats why alot of governments are pro immigration lowkey, there is talk of lowering immigrations in parliament, but nothing comes out of it

So far there is no alternative other than immigration.

Only thing governments can do is to increase standards of living. Make housing very affordable, childcare should be completely subsidised by the state. Those who have children shouldn’t be economically worse off.

Governments can either steal young adults from other countries through immigration(very cheap) or put in place policies so their native population can grow their own(very expensive). South Korea and Japan have decided they aren’t gonna do either, whilst the West have decided to do the former.

 

[Mayor]

So far there is no alternative other than immigration.

Only thing governments can do is to increase standards of living. Make housing very affordable, childcare should be completely subsidised by the state. Those who have children shouldn’t be economically worse off.

Governments can either steal young adults from other countries through immigration(very cheap) or put in place policies so their native population can grow their own(very expensive). South Korea and Japan have decided they aren’t gonna do either, whilst the West have decided to do the former.

I wonder what the future impact will be if we have even better AI and more advanced robotics. If innovation increases productivity in a meaningful way, we'll probably have more efficient economies that can get by with a smaller population. If that becomes the case, they'll have lesser need for immigrants

 

[Hotchick12]

A lot of African nurses have moved to the uk in the past years