Ahmedahmed5000
Vorbeck
This some next level feminist rhetoric. If she genuinely believes ending a heart beat is healthcare then she's completely mad.
Ilhan omar says abortion is healthcare
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Praise be to Allah.
Firstly:
We have already stated in the answer to question no. 42321 the ruling on abortion. Please refer to this information.
Secondly:
With regard to the rulings following an abortion, they vary according to the time of the abortion, and fall into four categories, as follows:
1 – If the pregnancy is aborted within the first two stages (the nutfah (drop) stage which results from the mixing of the “two waters” which is the first forty days after the embryo attaches itself in the womb, and the ‘alaqah (clot) stage where it turns into solid blood during the second forty days), which add up to a total of eighty days, then in this case if it is aborted as a nutfah or ‘alaqah, there are no rulings to be followed, and there is no scholarly dispute on this point. The woman should continue to fast and pray as if she had not had an abortion, but she has to do wudoo’ for each prayer if she has any bleeding, as in the case of a woman suffering from istihaadah (non-menstrual vaginal bleeding).
2 – If the pregnancy is aborted in the third stage, the mudghah (chewed piece of flesh) stage, when the embryo looks like a piece of meat with the limbs and features beginning to appear, which lasts for forty days from the eighty-first to the one hundred and twentieth day, then there are two scenarios:
(i)This embryo does not have any human features and the midwives or other attendants did not testify that this was the beginning of a human being. In this case the ruling on abortion of this mudghah is the same as the ruling on abortion in the first two stages, and there are no rulings to be followed.
(ii)The embryo has complete human features or some human features such as a hand or foot, etc, or there are features but they are indistinct, or the midwives or other attendants testified that this was the beginning of a human being. In this case the rulings on nifaas are to be followed, and this signals the end of ‘iddah (waiting period following divorce or death of the husband, if applicable).
3 – If the pregnancy is aborted in the fourth stage, i.e., after the soul has been breathed into the foetus, which is after the beginning of the fifth month or after one hundred and twenty days of pregnancy have passed. Here there are two scenarios:
(i)If the foetus did not cry after birth, then the rulings mentioned with regard to the second stage of the mudghah are to be followed, but in addition the foetus should be washed, shrouded and the funeral prayer offered for him; he should be given a name and the ‘aqeeqah offered for him.
(ii)If the foetus cried after birth, then the rulings concerning a full-term baby apply, as mentioned above; in addition the child may take possession of wealth bequeathed or inherited; he may inherit or be inherited from, etc.
Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 21/434-438.
Firstly:
We have already stated in the answer to question no. 42321 the ruling on abortion. Please refer to this information.
Secondly:
With regard to the rulings following an abortion, they vary according to the time of the abortion, and fall into four categories, as follows:
1 – If the pregnancy is aborted within the first two stages (the nutfah (drop) stage which results from the mixing of the “two waters” which is the first forty days after the embryo attaches itself in the womb, and the ‘alaqah (clot) stage where it turns into solid blood during the second forty days), which add up to a total of eighty days, then in this case if it is aborted as a nutfah or ‘alaqah, there are no rulings to be followed, and there is no scholarly dispute on this point. The woman should continue to fast and pray as if she had not had an abortion, but she has to do wudoo’ for each prayer if she has any bleeding, as in the case of a woman suffering from istihaadah (non-menstrual vaginal bleeding).
2 – If the pregnancy is aborted in the third stage, the mudghah (chewed piece of flesh) stage, when the embryo looks like a piece of meat with the limbs and features beginning to appear, which lasts for forty days from the eighty-first to the one hundred and twentieth day, then there are two scenarios:
(i)This embryo does not have any human features and the midwives or other attendants did not testify that this was the beginning of a human being. In this case the ruling on abortion of this mudghah is the same as the ruling on abortion in the first two stages, and there are no rulings to be followed.
(ii)The embryo has complete human features or some human features such as a hand or foot, etc, or there are features but they are indistinct, or the midwives or other attendants testified that this was the beginning of a human being. In this case the rulings on nifaas are to be followed, and this signals the end of ‘iddah (waiting period following divorce or death of the husband, if applicable).
3 – If the pregnancy is aborted in the fourth stage, i.e., after the soul has been breathed into the foetus, which is after the beginning of the fifth month or after one hundred and twenty days of pregnancy have passed. Here there are two scenarios:
(i)If the foetus did not cry after birth, then the rulings mentioned with regard to the second stage of the mudghah are to be followed, but in addition the foetus should be washed, shrouded and the funeral prayer offered for him; he should be given a name and the ‘aqeeqah offered for him.
(ii)If the foetus cried after birth, then the rulings concerning a full-term baby apply, as mentioned above; in addition the child may take possession of wealth bequeathed or inherited; he may inherit or be inherited from, etc.
Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 21/434-438.
There’s no compulsion in religion there’s many terrorists like al shabaab ISIS who want to impose their religion on others at the end of the day the United States is not a muslim country and I agree with Ilan omar she represents the majority who elected her that support abortion.
in the United States Of American which is a secular country abortion is healthcare we must respect the law of the land muslims can’t behave like terrorists and try to impose their ideology on none Muslims.
@Ayubi is behaving like terrorists ISIS and al shabaab by trying to impose islam on others, United States is a secular government.
She's a political opportunist. Comes to power acting like a proper Somali Muslim and then immediately sells herself out while maintaining this pretentious aura. It's embarrassing and she should either stick with one or enjoy getting insulted by both sides
When it comes to Islam There’s no compulsion in religion, ilhan represents all the people of the United States which are predominantly none muslim and the United States is a secular country do you think it’s fair in a democracy for the minority Muslims to impose their beliefs on the majority none Muslims in the United States?
Obviously not but don't claim an appearance yet advocate for things directly against your religion. Being an abortion activist and the only Hijabi in congress is ironic to say the least.
Again I will reiterate there’s no compulsion in religion and you can’t impose your belief on others it’s unislamic.
ilham has been voted in by overwhelmingly predominantly none muslim voters is it right for her to betray her voters and impose her islamic beliefs on them?
Ahmedahmed5000
Vorbeck
People joke about black women. They're one of the largest minority group and they have the largest share of the abortion services.
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Support your voters but don't claim us when it suits you. Durr Im a proud Somali Muslim woman. Im not forcing her to do anything. Im just pointing out this two faced nature she appears to display. She's the one going after the white American majority and calling them racists and misogynists despite being welcomed to America as a destitute fob. Clearly she has no issue with slandering the same demographic but this time they only have different political views (republican whites).
You are a woman
Ahmedahmed5000
Vorbeck
You do realise there's anti abortion secularists, who oppose it for moral grounds.
Guys forget this, this isn’t her speaking
This is “oh shit I needa get that second term” speaking
This is “oh shit I needa get that second term” speaking
Most the voters in Minnesota are liberals who support abortion overwhelmingly
Unlike in the United Kingdom laws aren't necessarily applied everywhere in a uniform fashion in the US. Abortion is not a closed issue and is heavily restricted to the point of inaccessibility in some states so Im not arguing against the laws of the land. Abortion can be argued against on a moral ground and honestly that's the rational way to do it in a secular country
Why would you say you are a male why would you want to deceive others you say you are a muslim but deception is unislamic
@Medulla it was a female that made you grovel and beg for mercy screaming stop the fitna, who was your mental superior
Why would you say you are a male why would you want to deceive others you say you are a muslim but deception is unislamic
@Medulla it was a female that made you grovel and beg for mercy screaming stop the fitna, who was your mental superior
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Come now, you must’ve known nobody was gonna read all that
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