If you don't like it here, then go back to your country

[Based]

We are not dhuxul

You're an exception cadde swedish Somalis are pitch black though

 

[4head]

Yes I would accept cuz they arent somali ppl stop using segregating as agenda non were never part of ppl and Will never be they can have their culture and can live In somalia without adopting somali culture u cant force ppl to change their culture way of life just cuz they live in your country
Assimilation is myth doesnt exist you facist and the europeans those tht say ppl have to change their way of life to place them are facist just like you
Somali ppl and non somali ppl tht are non european whites can live iin europe without assimilation adopting europeans culture religion

First, he said that "they aren't Somali" (implying that Foreigners in Somalia or Minorities cannot be Somalis), while also admitting that Assimilation shouldn't be a thing, since people are allowed to have their own cultures.

If that is the case, then why are you in the West? Since your ideas are to congregate people into small pockets of minorities, like in the U.S, how do you think we will achieve unity and prosperity, under the rule of one monarch, whose power is extended to an entire country?

If Somalia has to leave its Tribalistic Nature, your argument doesn't make sense.
We need a Common Culture, and you advocate that as Somalis, we have the privilege to be Somalis while excluding Minorities from our culture. In my eyes, you live in delusion. America was built with small pockets of Pioneers, all differents (in their faiths, creeds, races).

Somalia was "built" by Somalis, the ethnic majority. And it was destroyed by ethnic adversities.
We understand that one can still have their culture, but at home only. Like the Romans who had religion for the Emperor (thus, an Official Religion), but also a religion in their private life, and a religion of the Common. This idea of separating the powers (secularism), and imposing one single culture over others is to stimulate people, to reunite them under one banner.

Somalia has one religion, one people, and one language. Minorities can still have their ethnic differences but in their homes. In Public, they'd have to be walking like a Somali, eat like a Somali and work like a Somali.


Unity > Communitarism.

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

First, he said that "they aren't Somali" (implying that Foreigners in Somalia or Minorities cannot be Somalis), while also admitting that Assimilation shouldn't be a thing, since people are allowed to have their own cultures.

If that is the case, then why are you in the West? Since your ideas are to congregate people into small pockets of minorities, like in the U.S, how do you think we will achieve unity and prosperity, under the rule of one monarch, whose power is extended to an entire country?

If Somalia has to leave its Tribalistic Nature, your argument doesn't make sense.
We need a Common Culture, and you advocate that as Somalis, we have the privilege to be Somalis while excluding Minorities from our culture. In my eyes, you live in delusion. America was built with small pockets of Pioneers, all differents (in their faiths, creeds, races).

Somalia was "built" by Somalis, the ethnic majority. And it was destroyed by ethnic adversities.
We understand that one can still have their culture, but at home only. Like the Romans who had religion for the Emperor (thus, an Official Religion), but also a religion in their private life, and a religion of the Common. This idea of separating the powers (secularism), and imposing one single culture over others is to stimulate people, to reunite them under one banner.

Somalia has one religion, one people, and one language. Minorities can still have their ethnic differences but in their homes. In Public, they'd have to be walking like a Somali, eat like a Somali and work like a Somali.


Unity > Communitarism.

I live in the west same way non somali ppl can live In somalia lands and also to live and work and doesnt mean i have To adopt their culture religion and how they dress and btw culture doesnt make ppl same if non somali ppl adopt somali culture doesnt make them somali and btw it is not tribelistic cuz somali ppl wont allow non somali ppl to claim somali nation and ppl so tht non somali ppl can replace somali ppl and claim somali lands as their own
Second being somali is lineage
Third somali ppl should only unite and prosperity themselfs and not with non somali ppl
And like i said assimilation is myth ppl having same culture language doesnt make them same it is just makes things confusing
Forth ppl can live any where they want to live while not abonding their culture religion for ppl like you

your idea is is not good tht you adopted from you europeans no matter how much u adopt europeans white culture and their religion doesnt make you and europeans white same ppl
5 tell europeans to stop spread ing their culture and religion to non somali europeans and changing ppl society
You whole doesnt make sense non somali can live In somalia while having their culture and religion which is non muslims non somali and they shouldnt claim nor rule

 

[jabsveg276]

I finally know how @Snacks looks like. I was always right. Chubby. I was wrong on the dark skin. I guess.....i am really a Jinni


View attachment 186008

 

[Cerberus]

Somali dude in video sounds Irish

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

First, he said that "they aren't Somali" (implying that Foreigners in Somalia or Minorities cannot be Somalis), while also admitting that Assimilation shouldn't be a thing, since people are allowed to have their own cultures.

If that is the case, then why are you in the West? Since your ideas are to congregate people into small pockets of minorities, like in the U.S, how do you think we will achieve unity and prosperity, under the rule of one monarch, whose power is extended to an entire country?

If Somalia has to leave its Tribalistic Nature, your argument doesn't make sense.
We need a Common Culture, and you advocate that as Somalis, we have the privilege to be Somalis while excluding Minorities from our culture. In my eyes, you live in delusion. America was built with small pockets of Pioneers, all differents (in their faiths, creeds, races).

Somalia was "built" by Somalis, the ethnic majority. And it was destroyed by ethnic adversities.
We understand that one can still have their culture, but at home only. Like the Romans who had religion for the Emperor (thus, an Official Religion), but also a religion in their private life, and a religion of the Common. This idea of separating the powers (secularism), and imposing one single culture over others is to stimulate people, to reunite them under one banner.

Somalia has one religion, one people, and one language. Minorities can still have their ethnic differences but in their homes. In Public, they'd have to be walking like a Somali, eat like a Somali and work like a Somali.


Unity > Communitarism.

Tell those frenchs and europeans tht live In somalia tht live Djibouti to adopt somali culture and islam then talk to me
Communitarism europeans made tht i dont believe what u or europeans do or made
Ppl can only unite if they are same ppl
And somali tht share same lineage should only unite by themself
I do t agree with you idea non somali ppl in somali shouldnt walk or eat or talk or work like somali ppl like i said you are facist tht force ppl to be like you
There no such unite by forcing ppl to trow away their culture religion and their way of life tht is fascismi
Only can be Somali by lineage if someone dont have lineage u not somali culture or language doesnt make somali
And you are not french and u Will never be like french person this is french person u dont look like him

U Will never be europeans white stop with europeans agenda

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

I think I see you are Fascist @qwertyuiop

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

tf?

Well u liked @4head comment talking about assimilation forcing ppl to talk walk eat work like somali ppl if they live in somalia which means u have same idea as tht person

 

[4head]

I live in the west same way non somali ppl can live In somalia lands and also to live and work and doesnt mean i have To adopt their culture religion and how they dress and btw culture doesnt make ppl same if non somali ppl adopt somali culture doesnt make them somali and btw it is not tribelistic cuz somali ppl wont allow non somali ppl to claim somali nation and ppl so tht non somali ppl can replace somali ppl and claim somali lands as their own
Second being somali is lineage
Third somali ppl should only unite and prosperity themselfs and not with non somali ppl
And like i said assimilation is myth ppl having same culture language doesnt make them same it is just makes things confusing
Forth ppl can live any where they want to live while not abonding their culture religion for ppl like you

your idea is is not good tht you adopted from you europeans no matter how much u adopt europeans white culture and their religion doesnt make you and europeans white same ppl
5 tell europeans to stop spread ing their culture and religion to non somali europeans and changing ppl society
You whole doesnt make sense non somali can live In somalia while having their culture and religion which is non muslims non somali and they shouldnt claim nor rule

Ok, I think you really suffer from reading comprehension. No Ad-Personam sophism here,
but have you really, deeply, read what I just wrote, in a post just above yours?

I literally said that people can still maintain their cultural differences but in their homes. As you said, the Culture of the Commoners (Somalis in Somalia, or Norwegians in Norway) has to stay the majority. Minority cultures can exist but not coexist with the majority.
Either, the Minorities will accept and adapt to the Common Culture, thus assimilating them through integration, not segregation.

Or else, they will live on their own, away from others. This is what we call "Communitarianism".
A Community of people who live on their own, in said society.

You didn't bother understanding what I said.
If being a Somali is through the lineage, but a Somali Bantu is also a Somali, then
how is this possible? What shall we do with the Bantu Question in Somalia?
Because your argument is: only the Ethnic Majority should rule over others (minorities), as they're the rightful heirs of those who built these lands.

Why would you be mad, then, if a Norwegian said to an Immigrant "you should go back to your country if you don't agree to live on our terms (in our Social Contract)"? As you love to argue for the sake of it, the Norwegian's attitude correlates with yours. The White Norwegians built their country, they are the majority and their culture is the norm. As a minority, you shouldn't be complaining about being told to leave their country if you agree that only the Somalis have to claim the keys of Somalia.


And in societal dynamics,
people are always fighting to earn or give up places. The struggle of the Rich Vs the Poor, Man vs Woman, and the Ethnic majority against the more dynamic ethnic minority. These power dynamics are well known, and if they are not properly contained through a Social Contract between individuals and societies, then your country is bound to a civil war.

Somalia needs a new social contract between ALL Somalis, and therefore, we will have to pinpoint exactly what is exactly a "Somali", how can we all co-exist, as one. And the question of Bantus is the core subject of our challenges. Are Bantus Somalis or Foreigners? (no need to answer, it's a rhetorical question).


Lastly, I don't even want to address your last paragraph. It doesn't have its place in this discussion. How are the EU and US geopolitics related to this subject? America's interference in other countries doesn't have any link with our subject, as we are talking about Norway (doesn't have any history of Colonialism, nor issues related to Interventionism). Stay coherent nigga!

Tbh, I think you just love arguing, without clear guidance of your words and how they are sounding to us.

In Summary,

-> If we are looking for peace among people in a country, we have to find common ground. Will it is about tribal affiliation or common culture, but we need a common denominator.
Then, after unifying people, they can have their personal or ethnic cultures, but as long as they respect and follow the social contract of the majority, then it will be fine for them (for the ethnic, religious minorities).

-> Your argument is to stay and keep your cultural background in your host country.
While you'd hate to see non-Somalis ruling Somalia. If you stay true to your words,
you should go back to Somalia and work for Somalis. Because having a multicultural, multiracial society cannot work. One Culture can be the catalyst of millions, but multiple cultures can exaggerate tensions, as the power dynamics between people are always moving, you will end up like some places here in France, where Blacks, Arabs, and whites hate each other. Thus, they do harm to each other. As said previously, in Djibouti we do coexist, in contrast to France, despite having multi different races/ethnicities; Afar, Somalis, Arabs, etc. But we don't live in constant fear, unlike some regions in France, since we have a common Djiboutian Culture, with the same religion and official languages (French and Arabic).


Multiculturalism may work if one culture still prevails.

 

[4head]

Well u liked @4head comment talking about assimilation forcing ppl to talk walk eat work like somali ppl if they live in somalia which means u have same idea as tht person

Fascism?


This guy clearly has reading and comprehension issues.

I never talked about forcing people to adopt and assimilate.
I'm quite liberal. If you want to come to Somalia, live like them, don't bring up your culture, as a refugee, you're just welcomed. It's not your country.
If your host country becomes your second motherland, then accommodate like the natives, live like them.

It's called basic human functionnalities.
That's how your ancestors survived in different regions of the World, dummie.

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

Ok, I think you really suffer from reading comprehension. No Ad-Personam sophism here,
but have you really, deeply, read what I just wrote, in a post just above yours?

I literally said that people can still maintain their cultural differences but in their homes. As you said, the Culture of the Commoners (Somalis in Somalia, or Norwegians in Norway) has to stay the majority. Minority cultures can exist but not coexist with the majority.
Either, the Minorities will accept and adapt to the Common Culture, thus assimilating them through integration, not segregation.

Or else, they will live on their own, away from others. This is what we call "Communitarianism".
A Community of people who live on their own, in said society.

You didn't bother understanding what I said.
If being a Somali is through the lineage, but a Somali Bantu is also a Somali, then
how is this possible? What shall we do with the Bantu Question in Somalia?
Because your argument is: only the Ethnic Majority should rule over others (minorities), as they're the rightful heirs of those who built these lands.

Why would you be mad, then, if a Norwegian said to an Immigrant "you should go back to your country if you don't agree to live on our terms (in our Social Contract)"? As you love to argue for the sake of it, the Norwegian's attitude correlates with yours. The White Norwegians built their country, they are the majority and their culture is the norm. As a minority, you shouldn't be complaining about being told to leave their country if you agree that only the Somalis have to claim the keys of Somalia.


And in societal dynamics,
people are always fighting to earn or give up places. The struggle of the Rich Vs the Poor, Man vs Woman, and the Ethnic majority against the more dynamic ethnic minority. These power dynamics are well known, and if they are not properly contained through a Social Contract between individuals and societies, then your country is bound to a civil war.

Somalia needs a new social contract between ALL Somalis, and therefore, we will have to pinpoint exactly what is exactly a "Somali", how can we all co-exist, as one. And the question of Bantus is the core subject of our challenges. Are Bantus Somalis or Foreigners? (no need to answer, it's a rhetorical question).


Lastly, I don't even want to address your last paragraph. It doesn't have its place in this discussion. How are the EU and US geopolitics related to this subject? America's interference in other countries doesn't have any link with our subject, as we are talking about Norway (doesn't have any history of Colonialism, nor issues related to Interventionism). Stay coherent nigga!

Tbh, I think you just love arguing, without clear guidance of your words and how they are sounding to us.

In Summary,

-> If we are looking for peace among people in a country, we have to find common ground. Will it is about tribal affiliation or common culture, but we need a common denominator.
Then, after unifying people, they can have their personal or ethnic cultures, but as long as they respect and follow the social contract of the majority, then it will be fine for them (for the ethnic, religious minorities).

-> Your argument is to stay and keep your cultural background in your host country.
While you'd hate to see non-Somalis ruling Somalia. If you stay true to your words,
you should go back to Somalia and work for Somalis. Because having a multicultural, multiracial society cannot work. One Culture can be the catalyst of millions, but multiple cultures can exaggerate tensions, as the power dynamics between people are always moving, you will end up like some places here in France, where Blacks, Arabs, and whites hate each other. Thus, they do harm to each other. As said previously, in Djibouti we do coexist, in contrast to France, despite having multi different races/ethnicities; Afar, Somalis, Arabs, etc. But we don't live in constant fear, unlike some regions in France, since we have a common Djiboutian Culture, with the same religion and official languages (French and Arabic).


Multiculturalism may work if one culture still prevails.

No actually i think understood you what u meant by tht i juts disaggred non somali ppl can maintain their culture and religion in public whether u like or not and somali ppl dont need new social contact again me keeping my culture and idea doesnt mean i backgroud and yes non somali ppl should live under somali ppl cuz somalia is not their homeland just like i live In finland under finnish ppl and i or non finnish ppl shouldnt claim nor rule their homeland
Ppl can live In peace while keeping their culture and living their host country and they shouldnt claim to rule their hist country since it is not their
U just alking pointsless trying to get rid of ppl culture religion
Like i live In finland it is not my homeland and shouldnt claim as homeland nor ask to rule over finnish ppl k. Their own lands
Btw bantus in somalia arent somali ppl and shouldnt rule somalia cuz they own it but live as host like me in finland you whole ideologi doest make sense ppl can live In while peace keeping their culture and religion and if ppl move to host country they shouldnt demand to rule over it or claim as their homeland cuz it is not their lands to begin with i dont agree you ideologi
And English isnt my language so try to understand it if not keep you ideas to yourself i think you Fascist

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

Fascism?


This guy clearly has reading and comprehension issues.

I never talked about forcing people to adopt and assimilate.
I'm quite liberal. If you want to come to Somalia, live like them, don't bring up your culture, as a refugee, you're just welcomed. It's not your country.
If your host country becomes your second motherland, then accommodate like the natives, live like them.

It's called basic human functionnalities.
That's how your ancestors survived in different regions of the World, dummie.

Non somali ppl Who is guest in somalia cant be their second homeland it is like saying someone living you house becomes their second home lol and i think my didnt adopt no one culture while living their region it is not human function since ppl are against
Btw telling ppl to live like you and act like you is Fascistmi whether you like it or not

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

Fascism?


This guy clearly has reading and comprehension issues.

I never talked about forcing people to adopt and assimilate.
I'm quite liberal. If you want to come to Somalia, live like them, don't bring up your culture, as a refugee, you're just welcomed. It's not your country.
If your host country becomes your second motherland, then accommodate like the natives, live like them.

It's called basic human functionnalities.
That's how your ancestors survived in different regions of the World, dummie.

Go google what is Fascism or Read tht if u cant understand Fascism

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

U contradict yourself you say ppl should act live eat walk talk like you you fascism gogoogle what is fascism @4head you fascism

 

[4head]

No actually i think understood you what u meant by tht i juts disaggred non somali ppl can maintain their culture and religion in public whether u like or not and somali ppl dont need new social contact again me keeping my culture and idea doesnt mean i backgroud and yes non somali ppl should live under somali ppl cuz somalia is not their homeland just like i live In finland under finnish ppl and i or non finnish ppl shouldnt claim nor rule their homeland
Ppl can live In peace while keeping their culture and living their host country and they shouldnt claim to rule their hist country since it is not their
U just alking pointsless trying to get rid of ppl culture religion
Like i live In finland it is not my homeland and shouldnt claim as homeland nor ask to rule over finnish ppl k. Their own lands
Btw bantus in somalia arent somali ppl and shouldnt rule somalia cuz they own it but live as host like me in finland you whole ideologi doest make sense ppl can live In while peace keeping their culture and religion and if ppl move to host country they shouldnt demand to rule over it or claim as their homeland cuz it is not their lands to begin with i dont agree you ideologi
And English isnt my language so try to understand it if not keep you ideas to yourself i think you Fascist

If your argument is: the majority of (insert any host country) has to rule. Thus, the minority should follow, not rule.
But, you completely forgot that Minorities pay taxes, have homes there (again, taxes), and they work there (contributing to the country's wealth and employment), thus they are as "positive" to Society any other citizen. What you are advocating is the Status of a Metekoi (a status that was given to productive agents of society, in Greece, in Athena for instance) but they didn't have any political rights. It's funny that you're accusing me of Fascism (to be frank, I don't bleed of rage when you clumsily accuse me of something that I'm not) while this system is segregational, xenophobic than the system that I'm in favor for. Classify the foreigners as Second Class Citizens, not giving them political powers because of a racial bias, it sounds more fascist than my ideas on this subject.
In America, there's this famous maxim [from American Colons, before the American Independence War] "No taxation without representation".

What does it mean?
It means that if you bring the means of production, that you contribute to the overall good of Society, while they deny your political rights, then you have every right on earth to stop working for a country or an Elite that doesn't want you.
The Revolutionaries understood this. Instead of paying hugely for their lives and sweat, they abandoned London and declared their independence.

In our scenario,
the Bantus work, build and love Somalia (in a country that considers them as half of a clan, thus half a human, with the challenges they've faced throughout the centuries, the abuse they receive daily) they should have their political rights. Otherwise, I can guarantee you that they will stop helping Somalia's wealth. If you exclude them in the political sphère, don't tax them, don't rent them any land, and forget about them.

That's why I believe you live in a Cognitive Dissonance.
You think you don't have to have political rights in your host.
But without it, you wouldn't be having any jobs, any media exposition, nothing.
As Society is intrinsically political, if you don't have political exposition, then you will be invisible, forgotten.

That's where we don't understand each other.
I'm all for people sticking to their cultural background as long as they stay in the path of the Commoners. And as such, they will have their rights as rightful citizens.
By the way,
what does "Citizenship" means to you?

For country with at least 10 to 20% of minorities,
Somalia will have to define a new meaning for "Citizenship"; who can obtain this status, how will it be accessible to people, and with new bases. Is a Citizen someone who's necessary Somali? If that's the case, then will a Somali from Djibouti be a considered "Citizen" in Somalia? If Identity evolves solely around ethnic affiliation, then all the Somalis outside of Somalia can be citizens.
But this conclusion is out of reach, not in reality.
Of course, many Somalis live outside of Somalia. But do they see themselves as rightful citizens of the Federal Republic of Somalia? No. Have they undergone specific training to become Citizens, like others? No. Just because they share the same blood doesn't make them any more Somali than a Bantu who was born and raised in Somalia, who works and contributes to Somalia, and who feels like a true Somalian.
Like in Malaysia, where the ethnic majority is of the Malays, there are, nonetheless, a few minorities of Chinese. Are the Chinese from Malaysia rightful citizens of the Popular Republic of China, because of their common shared ancestry? No. They are accepted, citizens. They are assimilated into the Malaysian Society. Like in Singapour. Look up what Lee Kwan Yee did in that country where immigrants from China came there in the late 40s early 50s and how they rapidly integrated into the Singaporean landscape. Would it be logical to deny their political rights, as them being the main power force for the Singapourian Revolution? Lee's equation took them as active members of Singapour. Thus, they've had their political leaders who helped Singapour to leave out poverty. In less than 5 decades, they went from being as poor as Ghana to being a 1st World country.

We need a well-thought system. We need a definition of what is a true citizen, and how can we be citizens. Making it harder for someone to claim Somalia, as only privileged ones can be regarded as Somalians.



And I just saw your last post where you said that I can't be French.

Rolf. I have my rights (political, social rights), I'm more represented here than I will ever be back home. And the French Identity isn't about race/or skin color, as it's about the common shared culture (French Culture), in a heavily centralized country (regional revendications do exist, but everyone feels like they are french). Unlike the Germanic definition of " is German someone who has Germanic ancestors, who speak a Germanic language and lives in a Germany populated region". Countries have their own definition of Citizenship, and Somalia deserves its own one.


Stay in peace.

 

[4head]

Go google what is Fascism or Read tht if u cant understand Fascism
View attachment 186027

This definition suits you better, as you wish to exclude the minorities from the Political Spectrum,
while maintaining a Racial Superiority, Religious Prepondarity over minorities.

I never adocated for a strong, authoritarian ultranationalistic form of governance.
You're making up stuff that your little brains can't comprehend.

Kulaha "English isn't my first language", nigga, English is my 4th language and I can read better than you.

If you don't understand you that Fascism has its roots in authotarianism (left or right), with a heavily centralized governement that pushes the supremacy of a culture over others (excluding them completely) and the difference with my proposal for a better definition of Citzenship and a better social contract between people, then you clearly lack intelligence.

I don't believe in forcing anyone to assimilate. If they don't, they have to leave. It's simple.
They won't have to stay, without their political representation (as you advocate for), if they hate it living in my country.

 

[4head]

U contradict yourself you say ppl should act live eat walk talk like you you fascism gogoogle what is fascism @4head you fascism

They are free to live, as long as they obey the Social Contract ( the social norms in the country).
Nobody is forcing anyone to stay.


Was it necessary to repeat yourself?

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

If your argument is: the majority of (insert any host country) has to rule. Thus, the minority should follow, not rule.
But, you completely forgot that Minorities pay taxes, have homes there (again, taxes), and they work there (contributing to the country's wealth and employment), thus they are as "positive" to Society any other citizen. What you are advocating is the Status of a Metekoi (a status that was given to productive agents of society, in Greece, in Athena for instance) but they didn't have any political rights. It's funny that you're accusing me of Fascism (to be frank, I don't bleed of rage when you clumsily accuse me of something that I'm not) while this system is segregational, xenophobic than the system that I'm in favor for. Classify the foreigners as Second Class Citizens, not giving them political powers because of a racial bias, it sounds more fascist than my ideas on this subject.
In America, there's this famous maxim [from American Colons, before the American Independence War] "No taxation without representation".

What does it mean?
It means that if you bring the means of production, that you contribute to the overall good of Society, while they deny your political rights, then you have every right on earth to stop working for a country or an Elite that doesn't want you.
The Revolutionaries understood this. Instead of paying hugely for their lives and sweat, they abandoned London and declared their independence.

In our scenario,
the Bantus work, build and love Somalia (in a country that considers them as half of a clan, thus half a human, with the challenges they've faced throughout the centuries, the abuse they receive daily) they should have their political rights. Otherwise, I can guarantee you that they will stop helping Somalia's wealth. If you exclude them in the political sphère, don't tax them, don't rent them any land, and forget about them.

That's why I believe you live in a Cognitive Dissonance.
You think you don't have to have political rights in your host.
But without it, you wouldn't be having any jobs, any media exposition, nothing.
As Society is intrinsically political, if you don't have political exposition, then you will be invisible, forgotten.

That's where we don't understand each other.
I'm all for people sticking to their cultural background as long as they stay in the path of the Commoners. And as such, they will have their rights as rightful citizens.
By the way,
what does "Citizenship" means to you?

For country with at least 10 to 20% of minorities,
Somalia will have to define a new meaning for "Citizenship"; who can obtain this status, how will it be accessible to people, and with new bases. Is a Citizen someone who's necessary Somali? If that's the case, then will a Somali from Djibouti be a considered "Citizen" in Somalia? If Identity evolves solely around ethnic affiliation, then all the Somalis outside of Somalia can be citizens.
But this conclusion is out of reach, not in reality.
Of course, many Somalis live outside of Somalia. But do they see themselves as rightful citizens of the Federal Republic of Somalia? No. Have they undergone specific training to become Citizens, like others? No. Just because they share the same blood doesn't make them any more Somali than a Bantu who was born and raised in Somalia, who works and contributes to Somalia, and who feels like a true Somalian.
Like in Malaysia, where the ethnic majority is of the Malays, there are, nonetheless, a few minorities of Chinese. Are the Chinese from Malaysia rightful citizens of the Popular Republic of China, because of their common shared ancestry? No. They are accepted, citizens. They are assimilated into the Malaysian Society. Like in Singapour. Look up what Lee Kwan Yee did in that country where immigrants from China came there in the late 40s early 50s and how they rapidly integrated into the Singaporean landscape. Would it be logical to deny their political rights, as them being the main power force for the Singapourian Revolution? Lee's equation took them as active members of Singapour. Thus, they've had their political leaders who helped Singapour to leave out poverty. In less than 5 decades, they went from being as poor as Ghana to being a 1st World country.

We need a well-thought system. We need a definition of what is a true citizen, and how can we be citizens. Making it harder for someone to claim Somalia, as only privileged ones can be regarded as Somalians.



And I just saw your last post where you said that I can't be French.

Rolf. I have my rights (political, social rights), I'm more represented here than I will ever be back home. And the French Identity isn't about race/or skin color, as it's about the common shared culture (French Culture), in a heavily centralized country (regional revendications do exist, but everyone feels like they are french). Unlike the Germanic definition of " is German someone who has Germanic ancestors, who speak a Germanic language and lives in a Germany populated region". Countries have their own definition of Citizenship, and Somalia deserves its own one.


Stay in peace.

My argument is not about majority it is about ownership which somali ppl own soamli ppl have their definion which is by lineage non Else
Citizenship doesnt make someone somali nor make owner of somali lands somali ppl dont need tht kind system which europeans invented and second french Will never Let you rule or claim ownersjip of their homeland u say aln you tht it is not race or ethnicity but to french ppl it is about race and ethnicity you ideas tht you adopted from europeans u should keep to your self
Citizenship culture language or some born in somalia doesnt make them somali nor have on ownership over somali ppl lands somalia is not Europe and shouldnt adopt europeans idea cuz somali plm arent europeans nor european society

 

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This definition suits you better, as you wish to exclude the minorities from the Political Spectrum,
while maintaining a Racial Superiority, Religious Prepondarity over minorities.

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I never adocated for a strong, authoritarian ultranationalistic form of governance.
You're making up stuff that your little brains can't comprehend.

Kulaha "English isn't my first language", nigga, English is my 4th language and I can read better than you.

If you don't understand you that Fascism has its roots in authotarianism (left or right), with a heavily centralized governement that pushes the supremacy of a culture over others (excluding them completely) and the difference with my proposal for a better definition of Citzenship and a better social contract between people, then you clearly lack intelligence.

I don't believe in forcing anyone to assimilate. If they don't, they have to leave. It's simple.
They won't have to stay, without their political representation (as you advocate for), if they hate it living in my country.

Non Somali dont own somali lands i am not fascism lol
Non Somali ppl dont own somali lands and osmlai politics it is for somali ppl
Learn about ownership if someone live my home they should follow my rule cuz i own the house and i rule it

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

This definition suits you better, as you wish to exclude the minorities from the Political Spectrum,
while maintaining a Racial Superiority, Religious Prepondarity over minorities.

View attachment 186031

I never adocated for a strong, authoritarian ultranationalistic form of governance.
You're making up stuff that your little brains can't comprehend.

Kulaha "English isn't my first language", nigga, English is my 4th language and I can read better than you.

If you don't understand you that Fascism has its roots in authotarianism (left or right), with a heavily centralized governement that pushes the supremacy of a culture over others (excluding them completely) and the difference with my proposal for a better definition of Citzenship and a better social contract between people, then you clearly lack intelligence.

I don't believe in forcing anyone to assimilate. If they don't, they have to leave. It's simple.
They won't have to stay, without their political representation (as you advocate for), if they hate it living in my country.

Well those so called came To somali and should follow somali ppl rule like you said if they dont like tht somali ppl arent allowing to rule their homeland they should go back isnt tht you logic