If the US Fights Russia, Who Do You Want to Win?

If US Fights Russia Over Ukraine, Who Do You Want to Win?


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You don't agree?

The US isn’t a communist state.

Hardly a minority of US servicemen and women are LGBT.

You are right that if the US collapses it will be due to its own incompetence as a country but it’s still more powerful than China and Russia. The reason why the easily fooled see the US as weak is that they’re not willing to risk nuclear warfare over something as unimportant as Ukraine.
 

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The US isn’t a communist state.

Hardly a minority of US servicemen and women are LGBT.

You are right that if the US collapses it will be due to its own incompetence as a country but it’s still more powerful than China and Russia. The reason why the easily fooled see the US as weak is that they’re not willing to risk nuclear warfare over something as unimportant as Ukraine.

As an aside, communism is the evisceration of the proletariat by the bourgeoisie. It is alive and well. The only thing that’s dead is the myth that communism is a worker’s movement or that it was meant to liberate anyone from servitude. Their goal is a borderless world with a powerless underclass to be ruled by racially superlative academics and political technocrats.

The US more powerful than China and Russia? Hmm, I'm not entirely sure.

In total economic output, measured in real terms, China’s is already today 40% larger than America’s. This throws into the mix America’s massive service sector, which accounts for much less of China’s economy.

In total industrial output, which is widely considered of more relevance to war making, China is already the equivalent of the United States + Japan + Germany, all combined. Their manufacturing industry is over 80% larger than the US. Put another way, Chinese industrial power is 180% of America’s.

In both raw economic and specifically industrial might, the gap between China and America, gaping wide as it already is, is growing rapidly into a vast chasm.

By 2025, China’s economy, conservatively, will be 50% larger than the US, and their industrial capacity easily TWICE as large. By 2030, China’s economy will be the equivalent of that of the U.S. and European Union, COMBINED.
 
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reer baadiyo
As an aside, communism is the evisceration of the proletariat by the bourgeoisie. It is alive and well. The only thing that’s dead is the myth that communism is a worker’s movement or that it was meant to liberate anyone from servitude. Their goal is a borderless world with a powerless underclass to be ruled by racially superlative academics and political technocrats.

The US more powerful than China and Russia? Hmm, I'm not entirely sure.

In total economic output, measured in real terms, China’s is already today 40% larger than America’s. This throws into the mix America’s massive service sector, which accounts for much less of China’s economy.

In total industrial output, which is widely considered of more relevance to war making, China is already the equivalent of the United States + Japan + Germany, all combined. Their manufacturing industry is over 80% larger than the US. Put another way, Chinese industrial power is 180% of America’s.

In both raw economic and specifically industrial might, the gap between China and America, gaping wide as it already is, is growing rapidly into a vast chasm.

By 2025, China’s economy, conservatively, will be 50% larger than the US, and their industrial capacity easily TWICE as large. By 2030, China’s economy will be the equivalent of that of the U.S. and European Union, COMBINED.


The US is still a very powerful country – militarily and economically, but NOT MORE than China and Russia. Consider that, at the end of 2021, the US accounted for ~4.4% of the world’s population, but US publicly-listed stocks accounted for ~44% of global equity market capitalisation. One could go on in this vein.

Both Russia and China recognise this, and understand that they must work together – if and when their respective national interests align and warrant such cooperation – to counter US influence and pressure, exerted directly and indirectly, as well as overtly and covertly.
 

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The US isn’t a communist state.

Hardly a minority of US servicemen and women are LGBT.

You are right that if the US collapses it will be due to its own incompetence as a country but it’s still more powerful than China and Russia. The reason why the easily fooled see the US as weak is that they’re not willing to risk nuclear warfare over something as unimportant as Ukraine.
I agree let them have Ukraine nobody cares, not even here.

there was a reason as to why Dutch people voted Ukraine to not join the EU because they are a danger
 

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As an aside, communism is the evisceration of the proletariat by the bourgeoisie. It is alive and well. The only thing that’s dead is the myth that communism is a worker’s movement or that it was meant to liberate anyone from servitude. Their goal is a borderless world with a powerless underclass to be ruled by racially superlative academics and political technocrats.

The US more powerful than China and Russia? Hmm, I'm not entirely sure.

In total economic output, measured in real terms, China’s is already today 40% larger than America’s. This throws into the mix America’s massive service sector, which accounts for much less of China’s economy.

In total industrial output, which is widely considered of more relevance to war making, China is already the equivalent of the United States + Japan + Germany, all combined. Their manufacturing industry is over 80% larger than the US. Put another way, Chinese industrial power is 180% of America’s.

In both raw economic and specifically industrial might, the gap between China and America, gaping wide as it already is, is growing rapidly into a vast chasm.

By 2025, China’s economy, conservatively, will be 50% larger than the US, and their industrial capacity easily TWICE as large. By 2030, China’s economy will be the equivalent of that of the U.S. and European Union, COMBINED.

Communism was never a worker led revolution but rather the same despots with different allegories.

China should have an economy four times larger than the United States as it’s population is four times that of the United States.

There is a reason why GDP per capita is preferred in economics because it shows how effective a country is to its relative size and China isn’t.

The reason why population matters in analysing the economic side of conflict or diplomatic confrontation (Cold War) is as follows. If you have a high GDP per capita, that generally means a well-looked after population by global standards, meaning a government has the money to pursue to other military endeavours without harming the populace economically.

China, by having an economy comparable to it’s major rival, a nation a quarter of its size means its average citizen is poorer than the average American.

This means that in any prolonged Cold War between China and the US, any money used by China on this squabble impacts the living standards of Chinese people.

This is what killed the USSR and will kill China.
 

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