If European Jews can claim Palestine based on religious distortion, can Arabs or Somalis claim Ethiopia Aksum?

Jews have little in common with each other. They have no common ethnic lineage owing to the high level of conversion in antiquity. They had no common language, since Hebrew was used only for prayer and was not even spoken at the time of Jesus. European converts to Judaism have no historical or cultural affiliation with the indigenous Palestinian Jews.

It's like me claiming I am indigenous to Aksum or the Tigray region because King Najashi was a Muslim. Imagine if an Arab were to claim he was indigenous to Aksum because King Najashi was a Muslim. Zionist European Jews have a mental disorder. They came to Palestine in the 19th century and need to be shipped back to Eastern Europe. Most Jews in Europe actually converted to Judaism in the Holy Roman Empire.

Most of the indigenous biblical Jews remained behind and converted to Islam during the Muslim conquest of the Levant region. Palestinians are the descendants of those biblical Jews who remained behind and reverted to Islam.
 

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Jews have little in common with each other. They have no common ethnic lineage owing to the high level of conversion in antiquity. They had no common language, since Hebrew was used only for prayer and was not even spoken at the time of Jesus. European converts to Judaism have no historical or cultural affiliation with the indigenous Palestinian Jews.

It's like me claiming I am indigenous to Aksum or the Tigray region because King Najashi was a Muslim. Imagine if an Arab were to claim he was indigenous to Aksum because King Najashi was a Muslim. Zionist European Jews have a mental disorder. They came to Palestine in the 19th century and need to be shipped back to Eastern Europe. Most Jews in Europe actually converted to Judaism in the Holy Roman Empire.

Most of the indigenous biblical Jews remained behind and converted to Islam during the Muslim conquest of the Levant region. Palestinians are the descendants of those biblical Jews who remained behind and reverted to Islam.
I agree for once, but Palestinians do not have any connection to Bani Israel or the ethnic group of the children of Yakub. Instead, they are remnants of Roman and Turkic origins who were Arabized after the fall of the Byzantine and Sassanian empires.
 
I agree for once, but Palestinians do not have any connection to Bani Israel or the ethnic group of the children of Yakub. Instead, they are remnants of Roman and Turkic origins who were Arabized after the fall of the Byzantine and Sassanian empires.
Palestinians have been proven to have Canaanite ancestry DNA similar to most Levantine communities in the region.
 
I agree for once, but Palestinians do not have any connection to Bani Israel or the ethnic group of the children of Yakub. Instead, they are remnants of Roman and Turkic origins who were Arabized after the fall of the Byzantine and Sassanian empires.
The Palestinian people's genetic roots are diverse, but a significant portion of the population is believed to be the descendants of the biblical Jews who remained behind. For example, the Ghassanid kingdom ruled over a significant part of Palestine. Many prominent Christian families in Palestine today, such as Maalouf, Haddad, and Khoury, can trace their lineage back to the Ghassanid kingdom. It would be intellectually dishonest to state that Palestinians are descendants of only one particular group in a region with mass migrations and dozens of different empires and peoples.

Historian Shlomo Sand argues that a significant portion of Palestinians are actually the descendants of the biblical Jews who remained behind and reverted to Christianity and Islam. So not all of them are descendants of Bani Israel, but a significant portion are.
 

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Palestinians have been proven to have Canaanite ancestry DNA similar to most Levantine communities in the region.
Remove this garbage from my notifications. Please tell me how our prophet Described Musa ibn Imran? and let's see whether they suit the description, a brief journey to Egypt and seeing how the Hebrews were depicted debunks your kafir speculation.
 

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The Palestinian people's genetic roots are diverse, but a significant portion of the population is believed to be the descendants of the biblical Jews who remained behind. For example, the Ghassanid kingdom ruled over a significant part of Palestine. Many prominent Christian families in Palestine today, such as Maalouf, Haddad, and Khoury, can trace their lineage back to the Ghassanid kingdom. It would be intellectually dishonest to state that Palestinians are descendants of only one particular group in a region with mass migrations and dozens of different empires and peoples.

Historian Shlomo Sand argues that a significant portion of Palestinians are actually the descendants of the biblical Jews who remained behind and reverted to Christianity and Islam. So not all of them are descendants of Bani Israel, but a significant portion are.
The 10 lost tribes of Bani Israel were banished and dispersed, as were the other remaining tribes; this was their punishment and curse. Therefore, those with white and lank hair, whether modern Jews or Arabized Romans, have no real connection to the Bani Israel mentioned in the Quran. They do not share the complexion and kinky hair described by our Prophet with Musa, nor do they align with the Hebrew depictions of ancient Egypt.
 

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Remove this garbage from my notifications. Please tell me how our prophet Described Musa ibn Imran? and let's see whether they suit the description, a brief journey to Egypt and seeing how the Hebrews were depicted debunks your kafir speculation.
Ya nacas you lack the understanding of Arabic language that you relay on translation that don't give the direct translation
 

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Ya nacas you lack the understanding of Arabic language that you relay on translation that don't give the direct translation
What kind of misinformation are you spreading? Are you now rejecting the fact that Musa ibn Imran is described as "Shadidul udma" (jet black) with kinky hair? Be cautious about the path you're treading, as denying Sahih hadiths and the sayings of the Prophet could lead to serious consequences, including Kufr.
 
What kind of misinformation are you spreading? Are you now rejecting the fact that Musa ibn Imran is described as "Shadidul udma" (jet black) with kinky hair? Be cautious about the path you're treading, as denying Sahih hadiths and the sayings of the Prophet could lead to serious consequences, including Kufr.
You are the one making major sin in here by intentionally misinterpreting the words of the prophet to fit your tiny stupid world view




 
The 10 lost tribes of Bani Israel were banished and dispersed, as were the other remaining tribes; this was their punishment and curse. Therefore, those with white and lank hair, whether modern Jews or Arabized Romans, have no real connection to the Bani Israel mentioned in the Quran. They do not share the complexion and kinky hair described by our Prophet with Musa, nor do they align with the Hebrew depictions of ancient Egypt.
Just to clarify, historian Shlomo Sand said Palestinians are the descendants of the Jews who remained after the failed Jewish revolt (Bar Kokhba) against the Romans, not Banu Israel. Hundreds of thousands of Jews and Samaritans remained. They converted to Christianity over time, but Judaism remained as well, with the Jewish Sanhedrin remaining in power till 425. A small minority also say they were the descendants of the biblical Jews.

The Palestinians you know today are those who descend from these generations of people conquered and ruled over by Hasmoneans, Romans, Byzantines, Arab Muslims, and European Crusaders. Their religion changed, as did their language, but the people remained.

The prophet Mohammad (PBUH) said Moses was of brown complexion, straight hair, and tall stature, as if he were from the people of Az-Zutt." The Bani Israel had various skin colors because their origins were different.
 
You are the one making major sin in here by intentionally misinterpreting the words of the prophet to fit your tiny stupid world view




Verily (Musa) alayhi Asalaam was Adaam shadeed Al Udmah jet black.

ุชูุณูŠุฑ ุงู„ุจูŠุถุงูˆูŠ ุฌ 3 ุต 27

ุฑูˆูŠ: ุงู†ู‡ ุนู„ูŠ ุงู„ุณู„ุงู… ูƒุงู† ุงุฏู… ุดุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุงุฏู…ุฉ.

The majority of the scholars understood the meaning of Adam in the description of Musa alayhi As Salaam to mean Adam Shadeed
Al Udmah in other words ASWAD.


Bilal was described as Al Udmah while prophet Musa is described as Shadeed Udmah meaning extremely Dark, if Bilal is face of Black Muslims how is Musa described Darker than him but not Black?
 

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Verily (Musa) alayhi Asalaam was Adaam shadeed Al Udmah jet black.

ุชูุณูŠุฑ ุงู„ุจูŠุถุงูˆูŠ ุฌ 3 ุต 27

ุฑูˆูŠ: ุงู†ู‡ ุนู„ูŠ ุงู„ุณู„ุงู… ูƒุงู† ุงุฏู… ุดุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุงุฏู…ุฉ.

The majority of the scholars understood the meaning of Adam in the description of Musa alayhi As Salaam to mean Adam Shadeed
Al Udmah in other words ASWAD.


Bilal was described as Al Udmah while prophet Musa is described as Shadeed Udmah meaning extremely Dark, if Bilal is face of Black Muslims how is Musa described Darker than him but not Black?
Well Musa is all classed as Black prophets, only retarded Liberal Muslims use bilal as face of Black Muslim infact all Israelite prophets where Black, and we can all go into Companions.

@Haragwaafi so these Non black or African sheikhs just made it up LOL.
 
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You are the one making major sin in here by intentionally misinterpreting the words of the prophet to fit your tiny stupid world view




Lol Bro thinks sending Arabised Persians coping is helping him, Please stop yapping and send narrations and tafsir on meaning of the words Like I did. I never sent opinions of people but of the Scholars and Companions. I can also send sheikhs too who bear witness the Original Arabs and Musa where black.

Books Don't lie of course lank haired Arabised Persians would beat around the bush many got caught in plain lies for their white worship, so please send your Receipts and books on Classical Arabic terms for complexions or else this debate is over.
 
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You are the one making major sin in here by intentionally misinterpreting the words of the prophet to fit your tiny stupid world view




Is this you basically Rejecting Sahih Hadiths of Musa being Black skinned? so my friend you reject a prophet of Allah for his blackness? I don't even know whether to think you have committed Kufr.

1.The great scholar Al Thaaโ€™labi said in his book Fiqqatu Luggha wa Al Arabiyyah,Page 348.

โ€The colour Adam is black(ness) in humans and white(ness)in camels.โ€

ู‚ุงู„ ุงุจูˆ ู…ู†ุตูˆุฑ ุงู„ุซุนุงู„ุจูŠ ููŠ ูƒุชุจู‡ ูู‚ุฉ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ูˆ ุณุฑ ุงู„ุนุฑุจูŠุฉ ุต ูฃูคูจ

ุงู„ุงุฏู… ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู„ุณูˆุฏ ูˆ ู…ู† ุงู„ุงุจู„ ุงู„ุงุจูŠุถ


Note: The word Aswad or ุงุณูˆุฏ for specific descriptions means jet black.

As you can see, the colour adam (ุขุฏู… ) by itself is very dark and not a light colour which most English speaking translators try to claim without any evidence.

2. Another great scholar called Ibn Sayaadah said, when explaining the meaning of the word Asham(ุงุณุญู… ) in his book Al Hakm Al Muheet Al Aโ€™dam , Chapter 3, page 215

โ€˜Al asham wa alsuhaam wa alsahmah mean black(ness) and every black is Ashamโ€ฆ. And the two suhaams are shaded Al Udmah. Does this scholar not say that it means jet black?



ุงู„ู…ุญูƒู… ูˆุงู„ู…ุญูŠุท ุงู„ุฃุนุธู… โ€“ ุฌ 3 ุต 215

ุงู„ุณู‘ุญูŽู…ู ูˆุงู„ุณูู‘ุญุงู…ู ูˆุงู„ุณูู‘ุญู’ู…ูŽุฉู: ุงู„ุณูˆูŽุงุฏ ูˆูƒู„ ุฃุณูˆุฏ ุฃุณู’ุญูŽู…ูโ€ฆูˆุงู„ุฅุณู’ุญูู…ุงู†ูุŒ ุงู„ุดูŽู‘ุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุฃุฏู…ุฉ


3. In Ibn Sayaadahโ€™s book Al Mukhasas volume 1 page 202 he said ุงู„ุณูˆุงุฏ ุดุฏุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฏู…ุฉ which translates to โ€black is an intense Udmahโ€in other words (jet )black and shaded al Udmah mean the same thing.

ูˆุงู„ุณูˆุงุฏ ุดุฏูŽู‘ุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฏู…ุฉ ุฑุฌู„ ุฃุณูˆุฏ ูˆูŽู‚ุฏ ุงุณูˆุฏ ูˆุณูˆุฏ ูˆุณุงุฏ

โ€œAnd black is an intense udmah, a (jet) black man , black , blacks โ€ฆโ€

ุงู„ู…ุฎุตุต ุฌ 1 ุต 202


4.Imaam Al Alaamah Al Dhahabi says in his book Seera Aโ€™laam Al Nubalaa SE page 313

ุณูŠุฑ ุฃุนู„ุงู… ุงู„ู†ุจู„ุงุก ุต ูฃูกูฃ

ู‚ุงู„ูˆุง ุงุณูˆุฏ ูˆ ูƒุฐุง ูƒู„ ู…ู† ุบู„ุจ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุณูˆุงุฏ ู‚ุงู„ูˆุง ุงุณูˆุฏ ุงูˆ ุดุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุงุฏู…ุฉ

โ€˜They say aswad (jet black) and this means whoever is covered in blackness. They say jet black or shaded Al Udmah.โ€


5.In Kitaab Al Alfaadh (ูƒุชุงุจ ุงู„ุฃู„ูุงุธ), by Ibn Sakeet (ุงุจู† ุงู„ุณูƒูŠุช ูŠุนู‚ูˆุจ ุจู† ุฅุณุญุงู‚ ) in the Chapter of colours, page 153 he said

ู‚ุงู„ูˆุง : ูˆ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฑุฌุงู„ ุงู„ุงุณูˆุฏุŒ ูˆ ู‡ูˆ ุดุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุงุฏู…ุฉ

โ€˜ โ€ฆ from the the ( jet) black men , and he is Shaded al Udmahโ€ in other words and from the people who are black in complexion they are also called shaded Al Udmah.
 

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Is this you basically Rejecting Sahih Hadiths of Musa being Black skinned? so my friend you reject a prophet of Allah for his blackness? I don't even know whether to think you have committed Kufr.

1.The great scholar Al Thaaโ€™labi said in his book Fiqqatu Luggha wa Al Arabiyyah,Page 348.

โ€The colour Adam is black(ness) in humans and white(ness)in camels.โ€

ู‚ุงู„ ุงุจูˆ ู…ู†ุตูˆุฑ ุงู„ุซุนุงู„ุจูŠ ููŠ ูƒุชุจู‡ ูู‚ุฉ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ูˆ ุณุฑ ุงู„ุนุฑุจูŠุฉ ุต ูฃูคูจ

ุงู„ุงุฏู… ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู„ุณูˆุฏ ูˆ ู…ู† ุงู„ุงุจู„ ุงู„ุงุจูŠุถ


Note: The word Aswad or ุงุณูˆุฏ for specific descriptions means jet black.

As you can see, the colour adam (ุขุฏู… ) by itself is very dark and not a light colour which most English speaking translators try to claim without any evidence.

2. Another great scholar called Ibn Sayaadah said, when explaining the meaning of the word Asham(ุงุณุญู… ) in his book Al Hakm Al Muheet Al Aโ€™dam , Chapter 3, page 215

โ€˜Al asham wa alsuhaam wa alsahmah mean black(ness) and every black is Ashamโ€ฆ. And the two suhaams are shaded Al Udmah. Does this scholar not say that it means jet black?



ุงู„ู…ุญูƒู… ูˆุงู„ู…ุญูŠุท ุงู„ุฃุนุธู… โ€“ ุฌ 3 ุต 215

ุงู„ุณู‘ุญูŽู…ู ูˆุงู„ุณูู‘ุญุงู…ู ูˆุงู„ุณูู‘ุญู’ู…ูŽุฉู: ุงู„ุณูˆูŽุงุฏ ูˆูƒู„ ุฃุณูˆุฏ ุฃุณู’ุญูŽู…ูโ€ฆูˆุงู„ุฅุณู’ุญูู…ุงู†ูุŒ ุงู„ุดูŽู‘ุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุฃุฏู…ุฉ


3. In Ibn Sayaadahโ€™s book Al Mukhasas volume 1 page 202 he said ุงู„ุณูˆุงุฏ ุดุฏุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฏู…ุฉ which translates to โ€black is an intense Udmahโ€in other words (jet )black and shaded al Udmah mean the same thing.

ูˆุงู„ุณูˆุงุฏ ุดุฏูŽู‘ุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฏู…ุฉ ุฑุฌู„ ุฃุณูˆุฏ ูˆูŽู‚ุฏ ุงุณูˆุฏ ูˆุณูˆุฏ ูˆุณุงุฏ

โ€œAnd black is an intense udmah, a (jet) black man , black , blacks โ€ฆโ€

ุงู„ู…ุฎุตุต ุฌ 1 ุต 202


4.Imaam Al Alaamah Al Dhahabi says in his book Seera Aโ€™laam Al Nubalaa SE page 313

ุณูŠุฑ ุฃุนู„ุงู… ุงู„ู†ุจู„ุงุก ุต ูฃูกูฃ

ู‚ุงู„ูˆุง ุงุณูˆุฏ ูˆ ูƒุฐุง ูƒู„ ู…ู† ุบู„ุจ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุณูˆุงุฏ ู‚ุงู„ูˆุง ุงุณูˆุฏ ุงูˆ ุดุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุงุฏู…ุฉ

โ€˜They say aswad (jet black) and this means whoever is covered in blackness. They say jet black or shaded Al Udmah.โ€


5.In Kitaab Al Alfaadh (ูƒุชุงุจ ุงู„ุฃู„ูุงุธ), by Ibn Sakeet (ุงุจู† ุงู„ุณูƒูŠุช ูŠุนู‚ูˆุจ ุจู† ุฅุณุญุงู‚ ) in the Chapter of colours, page 153 he said

ู‚ุงู„ูˆุง : ูˆ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฑุฌุงู„ ุงู„ุงุณูˆุฏุŒ ูˆ ู‡ูˆ ุดุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุงุฏู…ุฉ

โ€˜ โ€ฆ from the the ( jet) black men , and he is Shaded al Udmahโ€ in other words and from the people who are black in complexion they are also called shaded Al Udmah.
6. Another clear explanation of this can be found in the book called Fiqqatu Al Lughah(ูู‚ุฉ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ). Chapter 13 , page 126. In this chapter, the scholar explains the levels of blackness in humans.

โ€˜โ€ฆ.. and if it (the colour) is darker than (the colour) Adam then it is (called) Asham( refer to point 2).

ุฅุฐุง ุนูŽู„ุงูŽู‡ู ุฃุฏู†ู‰ ุณูŽูˆูŽุงุฏ ูู‡ูˆ ุฃุณู’ู…ูŽุฑุŒ ูุฅู†ู’ ุฒุงุฏ ุณูŽูˆูŽุงุฏูู‡ู ู…ูŽุนูŽ ุตููู’ุฑูŽุฉู ุชุนู„ูˆู‡ ูู‡ูˆ ุฃุตู’ุญูŽู…ูุŒ ูุฅู† ุฒุงุฏ ุณูŽูˆูŽุงุฏูู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุณูู‘ู…ู’ุฑูŽุฉ ูู‡ูˆ ุขุฏู…ุŒ ูุฅู† ุฒุงุฏ ุนู„ู‰ ุฐู„ูƒ ูู‡ูˆ ุฃุณุญู…ุŒ ูุฅู† ุงุดุชุฏู‘ ุณูˆุงุฏู‡ ูู‡ูˆ ุฃุฏู„ู….

7. The student of Sibaweey was nicknamed Natftweey because his udmah complexion resembled crude oil, which is a jet black colour.

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ู„ุทุงุฆู ุงู„ู…ุนุงุฑู ุตูคูจ

ู‚ุงู„ ุงู„ุซุนุงู„ุจูŠ ู„ู‚ุจ ู†ูุทูˆูŠู‡ ู„ุฏู…ุงู…ุชู‡ ูˆ ุงุฏู…ุชู‡ ุชุดุจูŠู‡ุง (ู„ู‡ ) ุจุงู„ู†ูุท



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8. Ibn Syadah said when given a description , in his book Kitaab Al Mukhassas ( ุงู„ู…ุฎุตุต) Chapter 1 Page 202

โ€and Aswad ( jet black ) is Shadeed Al Udmah a (jet)black manโ€

ุงู„ู…ุฎุตุต ุฌ 1 ุต202

ูˆุงู„ุณูˆุงุฏ ุดุฏุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฏู…ุฉ ุฑุฌู„ ุงุณูˆุฏ

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9. Imam Al Tabari gives a description of Mohammed Al Nafs Al Zaky in his book Tarikh Al Tabary(ุชุงุฑูŠุฎ ุงู„ุทุจุฑูŠ), page 562.



โ€˜โ€˜Mohammed was Adam Shadeed Al Udama , Adlam and he was nicknamed father of Black coal because of his Udmah. Abu Jaโ€™far called him charcoal.โ€

ูƒุงู† ู…ุญู…ุฏ ุขุฏู… ุดุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุฃุฏู…ุฉุŒ ุฃุฏู„ู… ุฌุณูŠู…ุง ุนุธูŠู…ุงุŒ ูˆูƒุงู† ูŠู„ู‚ุจ ุงู„ู‚ุงุฑูŠ ู…ู† ุฃุฏู…ุชู‡ุŒ ุญุชู‰ ูƒุงู† ุฃุจูˆ ุฌุนูุฑ ูŠุฏุนูˆู‡ ู…ุญู…ู…
 

techsamatar

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Just to clarify, historian Shlomo Sand said Palestinians are the descendants of the Jews who remained after the failed Jewish revolt (Bar Kokhba) against the Romans, not Banu Israel. Hundreds of thousands of Jews and Samaritans remained. They converted to Christianity over time, but Judaism remained as well, with the Jewish Sanhedrin remaining in power till 425. A small minority also say they were the descendants of the biblical Jews.

The Palestinians you know today are those who descend from these generations of people conquered and ruled over by Hasmoneans, Romans, Byzantines, Arab Muslims, and European Crusaders. Their religion changed, as did their language, but the people remained.

The prophet Mohammad (PBUH) said Moses was of brown complexion, straight hair, and tall stature, as if he were from the people of Az-Zutt." The Bani Israel had various skin colors because their origins were different.

Don't know what your trying to get at but Modern jews and Palestinians have 0 relation to Bani Israel ethnic group in anyway so that is that.

13. Sahih al-Bukhari 3438 Book 60, Hadith 109

And as for Musa he was Adam in complexion and had lank hair as of he was from the men of Zut.โ€

ูˆูŽุฃูŽู…ูŽู‘ุง ู…ููˆุณูŽู‰ ููŽุขุฏูŽู…ู ุฌูŽุณููŠู…ูŒ ุณูŽุจู’ุทูŒ ูƒูŽุฃูŽู†ูŽู‘ู‡ู ู…ูู†ู’ ุฑูุฌูŽุงู„ู ุงู„ุฒูู‘ุทูู‘ โ€โ€โ€โ€

Ibn Taymiyyah makes mention of an authentic narration that mentions people of Zut being jet black in colour

Jamea Al Masaail chapter 5 page 78

jet black skinned men as if they were from the men of Al Zut

ู‚ุงู„ ุงุจู† ุชูŠู…ูŠุฉ ููŠ ูƒุชุงุจู‡ ุฌุงู…ุน ุงู„ู…ุณุงุฆู„ ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซูŠุฉ โ€“ ุจุฏุก ุงู„ุฎู„ู‚ ูˆุงู„ู…ู„ุงุฆูƒุฉ ูˆุงู„ุฌู† ูˆุงู„ุฃู†ุจูŠุงุก ุฌ ูฅ ุต ูงูจ

ุฃุฎุฑุฌ ุงุจู† ู…ุฑุฏูˆูŠู‡ ูˆุฃุจูˆ ู†ุนูŠู… ููŠ ุงู„ุฏู„ุงุฆู„ ุนู† ุงุจู† ู…ุณุนูˆุฏ ู‚ุงู„ : ุฎุฑุฌ ุฑุณูˆู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ู‚ุจู„
ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ู†ูˆุงุญูŠ ู…ูƒุฉ ูุฎุท ู„ูŠ ุฎุทุง ูˆู‚ุงู„ : ู„ุง ุชุญุฏุซู† ุดูŠุฆุง

Musa having Kinky hair has more narrations and sahih mentions then Lank hair so he Had kinky hair, also Doubt Lank haired inhabited ancient Egypt especially 3000 years ago and the level of heat and radiation as you saw from depictions of Hebrews its obvious that is not lank hair.
 

techsamatar

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@Haragwaafi Do me a favour and do not even reply you Munfiq, you reject the most accepted facts and Sahih hadiths of Musa being black skinned and Kinky haired, you have hidden kufr in your heart you white worshipping Jahil. May Musa spit on your dirty Madow face on day of Judgement.

I even Got Tafsirs LOL.

Imam Ahmed ibn Hanbal related in his musnad (3365) the following description that the Messenger ๏ทบ gave of Musaโ€™s color:

ูˆูŽุฑูŽุฃูŽูŠู’ุชู ู…ููˆุณูŽู‰ ุฃูŽุณู’ุญูŽู…ูŽ ุขุฏูŽู…ูŽ

โ€œMusa was jet-black skinned.โ€

Muslim relates in his Sahih (239 and 243) that Ibn Abbas said that the Messenger ๏ทบ described Musaโ€™s appearance as follows:

ูŽุฃูŽู…ูŽู‘ุง ู…ููˆุณูŽู‰ ููŽุฑูŽุฌูู„ูŒ ุขุฏูŽู…ู ุฌูŽุนู’ุฏูŒ

As for Musa, he was black-skinned and kinky-haired. (hadith 243)



ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ุฐูŽูƒูŽุฑูŽ ุฑูŽุณููˆู„ู ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ุตูŽู„ูŽู‘ู‰ ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ู ูˆูŽุณูŽู„ูŽู‘ู…ูŽ ุญููŠู†ูŽ ุฃูุณู’ุฑููŠูŽ ุจูู‡ู ููŽู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ู…ููˆุณูŽู‰ ุขุฏูŽู…ู ุทููˆูŽุงู„ูŒ ูƒูŽุฃูŽู†ูŽู‘ู‡ู ู…ูู†ู’ ุฑูุฌูŽุงู„ู ุดูŽู†ููˆุกูŽุฉูŽ

He (Ibn Abbas) said that the prophet (๏ทบ) mentioned the time he was ascended to the Heavens and he said that Musa (Moses) was black-skinned and tall as if he was from the tribe of Shanua. (hadith 239)

If anyone has the anthropological history of the Shauna tribe, they are a historic yemeni tribe of the original stock arabs, and they are undoubtedly black arabs.

Regarding the ayah of Allah who said in suratul-โ€˜Araf:

ูˆูŽู†ูŽุฒูŽุนูŽ ูŠูŽุฏูŽู‡ู ููŽุฅูุฐูŽุง ู‡ููŠูŽ ุจูŽูŠู’ุถูŽุงุก ู„ูู„ู†ูŽู‘ุงุธูุฑููŠู†ูŽ

And he drew forth his hand (from his bosom): and lo! it was white for the beholders. [al-โ€˜Araf- verse 108]

al-Qurtubi says in his tafsir of the verse:

ูˆูƒุงู† ู…ูˆุณู‰ ุฃุณู…ุฑ ุดุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุณู…ุฑุฉ

Musa (Moses) was black-skinned.

at-Tabari says about this ayah

ูˆูƒุงู† ู…ูˆุณู‰ุŒ ููŠู…ุง ุฐูƒุฑ ู„ู†ุงุŒ ุขุฏู…ุŒ ูุฌุนู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุชุญูˆู„ ูŠุฏู‡ ุจูŠุถุงุก ู…ู† ุบูŠุฑ ุจุฑุตุŒ ู„ู‡ ุขูŠุฉ

According to what we were told, Musa (Moses) was black-skinned and Allah made Musaโ€™s hand turning white, without being affected by leprosy, a sign for him.

al-Baydawi says in his tafsir of the verse:

ุฑูˆูŠ : ุฃู†ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุณู„ุงู… ูƒุงู† ุขุฏู… ุดุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุฃุฏู…ุฉ ุŒ ูุฃุฏุฎู„ ูŠุฏู‡ ููŠ ุฌูŠุจู‡ ุฃูˆ ุชุญุช ุฅุจุทู‡ ุซู… ู†ุฒุนู‡ุง ูุฅุฐุง ู‡ูŠ ุจูŠุถุงุก ู†ูˆุฑุงู†ูŠุฉ ุบู„ุจ ุดุนุงุนู‡ุง ุดุนุงุน ุงู„ุดู…ุณ

It is related that Musa (alayhi salam) was jet-black-skinned. He put his hand in his pocket or under his armpit and took it out and it was white.

al-Baghawi says in his tafsir of the verse:

ูˆูƒุงู† ู…ูˆุณู‰ ุขุฏู… ุŒ ุซู… ุฃุฏุฎู„ู‡ุง ุฌูŠุจู‡ ูุตุงุฑุช ูƒู…ุง ูƒุงู†ุช

Musa was black-skinned. Then (after withdrawing his hand from his pocket white) he put his hand back in his pocket and it turned back to the color that it was.
 

techsamatar

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@Angelina Your also going to follow these Munfiqs and reject Tafsirs now?

Regarding the ayah of Allah who said in suratul-โ€˜Araf:

ูˆูŽู†ูŽุฒูŽุนูŽ ูŠูŽุฏูŽู‡ู ููŽุฅูุฐูŽุง ู‡ููŠูŽ ุจูŽูŠู’ุถูŽุงุก ู„ูู„ู†ูŽู‘ุงุธูุฑููŠู†ูŽ

"And he drew forth his hand (from his bosom): and lo! it was white for the beholders. [al-โ€˜Araf- verse 108]"

at-Tabari says about this ayah

ูˆูƒุงู† ู…ูˆุณู‰ุŒ ููŠู…ุง ุฐูƒุฑ ู„ู†ุงุŒ ุขุฏู…ุŒ ูุฌุนู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุชุญูˆู„ ูŠุฏู‡ ุจูŠุถุงุก ู…ู† ุบูŠุฑ ุจุฑุตุŒ ู„ู‡ ุขูŠุฉ

According to what we were told, Musa (Moses) was black-skinned and Allah made Musaโ€™s hand turning white, without being affected by leprosy, a sign for him.

al-Baydawi says in his tafsir of the verse:

ุฑูˆูŠ : ุฃู†ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุณู„ุงู… ูƒุงู† ุขุฏู… ุดุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุฃุฏู…ุฉ ุŒ ูุฃุฏุฎู„ ูŠุฏู‡ ููŠ ุฌูŠุจู‡ ุฃูˆ ุชุญุช ุฅุจุทู‡ ุซู… ู†ุฒุนู‡ุง ูุฅุฐุง ู‡ูŠ ุจูŠุถุงุก ู†ูˆุฑุงู†ูŠุฉ ุบู„ุจ ุดุนุงุนู‡ุง ุดุนุงุน ุงู„ุดู…ุณ

It is related that Musa (alayhi salam) was jet-black-skinned. He put his hand in his pocket or under his armpit and took it out and it was white.

al-Baghawi says in his tafsir of the verse:

ูˆูƒุงู† ู…ูˆุณู‰ ุขุฏู… ุŒ ุซู… ุฃุฏุฎู„ู‡ุง ุฌูŠุจู‡ ูุตุงุฑุช ูƒู…ุง ูƒุงู†ุช

Musa was black-skinned. Then (after withdrawing his hand from his pocket white) he put his hand back in his pocket and it turned back to the color that it was.
 
@Angelina Your also going to follow these Munfiqs and reject Tafsirs now?

Regarding the ayah of Allah who said in suratul-โ€˜Araf:

ูˆูŽู†ูŽุฒูŽุนูŽ ูŠูŽุฏูŽู‡ู ููŽุฅูุฐูŽุง ู‡ููŠูŽ ุจูŽูŠู’ุถูŽุงุก ู„ูู„ู†ูŽู‘ุงุธูุฑููŠู†ูŽ

"And he drew forth his hand (from his bosom): and lo! it was white for the beholders. [al-โ€˜Araf- verse 108]"

at-Tabari says about this ayah

ูˆูƒุงู† ู…ูˆุณู‰ุŒ ููŠู…ุง ุฐูƒุฑ ู„ู†ุงุŒ ุขุฏู…ุŒ ูุฌุนู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุชุญูˆู„ ูŠุฏู‡ ุจูŠุถุงุก ู…ู† ุบูŠุฑ ุจุฑุตุŒ ู„ู‡ ุขูŠุฉ

According to what we were told, Musa (Moses) was black-skinned and Allah made Musaโ€™s hand turning white, without being affected by leprosy, a sign for him.

al-Baydawi says in his tafsir of the verse:

ุฑูˆูŠ : ุฃู†ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุณู„ุงู… ูƒุงู† ุขุฏู… ุดุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุฃุฏู…ุฉ ุŒ ูุฃุฏุฎู„ ูŠุฏู‡ ููŠ ุฌูŠุจู‡ ุฃูˆ ุชุญุช ุฅุจุทู‡ ุซู… ู†ุฒุนู‡ุง ูุฅุฐุง ู‡ูŠ ุจูŠุถุงุก ู†ูˆุฑุงู†ูŠุฉ ุบู„ุจ ุดุนุงุนู‡ุง ุดุนุงุน ุงู„ุดู…ุณ

It is related that Musa (alayhi salam) was jet-black-skinned. He put his hand in his pocket or under his armpit and took it out and it was white.

al-Baghawi says in his tafsir of the verse:

ูˆูƒุงู† ู…ูˆุณู‰ ุขุฏู… ุŒ ุซู… ุฃุฏุฎู„ู‡ุง ุฌูŠุจู‡ ูุตุงุฑุช ูƒู…ุง ูƒุงู†ุช

Musa was black-skinned. Then (after withdrawing his hand from his pocket white) he put his hand back in his pocket and it turned back to the color that it was.
Musa was black skinned, but the Prophet S.A.W wasnโ€™t and authentic Hadith illustrates this. Many of the Sahaba were light skin and the Prophet s.a.w would often talk about the sins of racism since some of the Arabs would make comments in the color of Bilal Ibn Rabah.

Some of the Banu Israelis were dark and many were olive and the Arabs were also brown and Olive like the Arabs we see today.
 

techsamatar

I put Books to the Test of Life
Musa was black skinned, but the Prophet S.A.W wasnโ€™t and authentic Hadith illustrates this. Many of the Sahaba were light skin and the Prophet s.a.w would often talk about the sins of racism since some of the Arabs would make comments in the color of Bilal Ibn Rabah.

Some of the Banu Israelis were dark and many were olive and the Arabs were also brown and Olive like the Arabs we see today.
I didn't claim that the Prophet was black-skinned; I initiated a thread about his complexion. I understand that contemporary society often categorizes various shades of blackness simply as "Black," but this oversimplification doesn't align with the nuanced perceptions of original Arabs. The majority of these Arabs, including the Prophet's family, were described as Adam (dark brown) and Asmar (brown), with some being jet black like Ali ibn Talib. A minority of the Arabs were characterized as Abyad/Azhar (light-skinned).

It's inconsistent to accept the description of Musa and then claim that his cousins, the original Arabs, are the same lank-haired, white-passing Arabs seen today. Such a conclusion would require a logic that seems rather flawed.

The original Arabs and Bani Israel did not have an olive complexion. Attempts to whitewash the Deen by associating this complexion are inaccurate. In fact, such a complexion was disliked, as it was associated with the Romans and Persians, and seen as a sign of leprosy.

It's scientifically implausible for the inhabitants of the hottest region on the planet, who lived in arid conditions without brick houses or doors, to have had olive complexions and lank hair 1400 years ago.

Well, regardless of acceptance or not, I've initiated enough Threads on the truth. The Deen doesn't hinge on acknowledgment; the facts will endure.

Prophets Abyad/Azhar complexion: Lightest and Minority Complexion of the Original Arabs but was not average complexion for Semites

Example: Yemeni Children

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