Following the definition So you are saying somali clans are tribes that are not related speak different languages and practice seperate culture?
Fucking!! Delusional!! Somalis are one nation with clan families.
You have a peculiar ability in constructing the most ridiculous strawmans. If you had even half a brain, I would suggest you consider going into politics as you'd make a perfect fit, but you do not so that is a moot point.
A shared language and practicing similar culture is not enough to be classified as a tribe. For a given collection of people to be considered a tribe, they must fit that definition to the T. Look at the last part of the definition, "..and history" while most other dictionaries add shared heritage and blood ties as one of the characteristics that must be satisfied. In anthropology, a tribe is defined as
Tribe, in anthropology, a notional form of human social organization based on a set of smaller groups (known as bands), having temporary or permanent political integration, and defined by traditions of common descent, language, culture, and ideology.
There is no shared common descent, heritage, or history between the different and unrelated peoples that make up the Hawiye, Darod, Isaac, D&M, Dir, and other tribes. Hence, the label of tribe is perfectly fitting here. If a shared culture and language were all that was needed to be considered the same tribe/ethnic group, then you would be merging countless unrelated and distinct peoples living in South America, North Africa, the middle east, and South Asia who all share the same language (with given dialect variations) and culture but acknowledge being of different ethnic groups.
I don't give a shit about what your interests are. Keep trying trolling tho.
You should. My interests and aspirations are inline with the millions of people living in the Somali peninsula who love the status quo and love federalism. They don't want unity and will fight such a dirty and foreign concept to the very end.
When and where it was invented is irrelevant cuz it was indigenous creation invented by us the Somali Race.
Bring forth your evidence, then. The facts point to Somalinimo being created after the colonialists left and they needed to give the newly created central government an ideological basis. Before that, there has never been any acknowledgement of "Somalinimo" in any historical documents or any movements that could be recognized as a form of Somali nationalism in the peninsula. These are all indisputable historical facts.
Fewderalism and Qabil states are foreign systems of governance and foreign concepts. It is pretty much agreed upon it was something Ethiopia layed and advised to Balkanize and weaken Somalia.
So, what were the various Sultanates such as the Marehan, Majeerteen, Warsangeli emirates and others? They were qabil kingdoms were one qabil dominated the landscape and others were marginalized. Sounds exactly like federalism, which is why it is so successful and beloved by the people. It is the only modern system that is compatible historically and culturally with the peoples living in the Somali peninsula.
Federal states requires people to speak different languages and be different ethnic groups. Somalis are one Race and have the same culture & language.
That's flat out wrong. The united states is the best counter-example to your non-argument here.
Dude you even contradict your own logic if foreign automatically means incompatible then what is your own argument for Federal States? Or does it make your foreign foreign abullshit invalid?
That is your logic, not mine. I have no problem with implementing foreign ideas provided they have a track record of success and will lead to prosperity. However, you do which is why I find it increasingly strange you are against federalism which is the only type of system that has any historical and cultural basis in the Somali peninsula.
Those are not autonomous states. They are seperate countries with seperate languages and seperate culture and seperate ethnic/national identities
They are autonomous states. The UK's central government rules over all of its constituent federal states even if in many respects they operate as distinct countries. Oh, and they don't have a separate culture and separate language as in both Scotland and Northern Ireland the official languages are English and they clearly practice the same customs (for the most part) as those in England. The Welsh, Irish, Scots, and some of the English remaining today can all be broadly classified under the "Celtic" tribe. The only ones who are not of the same stock are the Anglo-Saxon invaders who have assimilated into the mainstream culture. So, again your argument fails. Face it, kid. You're a lightweight when it comes to this discussion.
A decentralized system is not a foreing concept. Somalis had empires unitary and decentralized Adal is one example
Adal was not a decentralized system. Nice try.
Let's speak hypothetically even if it was foreign, how it would it exclude the applicability of it regarding the somali social structure. It wouldn't tho since we are the same ethnic group speak the same language and have the same culture ,but divided into closely related clan families. Thus decentralized unitary state is fitting
That's an opinion. The nationalists who want do away with qabyalaad but not qabil also feel their ideology is fitting within the Somali culture. Both ideas are wrong and not consistent with the facts, but you are free to hold whatever opinion you wish. The thing is, you've been harping so much against "foreign ideas" and place so much value on so-called indigenous concepts while in actuality you are against the only indigenous system of governance that has been ruling the diverse peoples living in the Somali peninsula for millennia while promoting a concept that was created outside of the Somali peninsula. Don't blame me for finding problems with that train of thought.
Keep it up Hawdian maybe your Somalis are arab and not one ethnic group bullshit might make someone shuckle and laugh you delusional sheegato.
Whatever helps lull you to sleep, kid.
