I gotta clarify myself

[KinsiHilaac]

I don’t support the baby mama culture in Black America
Where the child basically don’t have a 2 parent house hold, which result in a bad upbringing

But I think partners don’t need to have gone through with a traditional marriage in order to give a child a good childhood

You can live with each other and have kids without the church or mosque being involved in ur relationship

Being someone who is nationally Scandinavian we have a living style this way called “ Cohabitation” where two adults live with eachother long term without including the Christian church


This is a common style which is increasing in the western world and is also something I’m up for

 

[Yaraye]

I don’t support the baby mama culture in Black America
Where the child basically don’t have a 2 parent house hold, which result in a bad upbringing

But I think partners don’t need to have gone through with a traditional marriage in order to give a child a good childhood

You can live with each other and have kids without the church or mosque being involved in ur relationship

Being someone who is nationally Scandinavian we have a living style this way called “ Cohabitation” where two adults live with eachother long term without including the Christian church


This is a common style which is increasing in the western world and is also something I’m up for

are you gaalo?

 

[Osama-bin Al-ballin]

I don’t support the baby mama culture in Black America
Where the child basically don’t have a 2 parent house hold, which result in a bad upbringing

But I think partners don’t need to have gone through with a traditional marriage in order to give a child a good childhood

You can live with each other and have kids without the church or mosque being involved in ur relationship

Being someone who is nationally Scandinavian we have a living style this way called “ Cohabitation” where two adults live with eachother long term without including the Christian church


This is a common style which is increasing in the western world and is also something I’m up for

My question is what makes me responsible to her who's to say I can't just walk out of the relationship. You'll probably respond by saying the government will be, by forcing child support on you and making sure you stay in the kids life. Then I'll rebuttal with, you'll let the government intervene but not a religion, when in fact Islam has delivered a perfect guideline to building a perfect functioning family.

The husband must spend on his children, which includes accommodation, food, drink, clothing, school costs, medical care and all that they need.

That should be worked out on a reasonable basis, paying attention to the husband’s financial situation, because Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Let a man of wealth spend from his wealth, and he whose provision is restricted - let him spend from what Allah has given him. Allah does not charge a soul except [according to] what He has given it. Allah will bring about, after hardship, ease”

[at-Talaaq 65:7].

 

[Kalsoon]

I don’t support the baby mama culture in Black America
Where the child basically don’t have a 2 parent house hold, which result in a bad upbringing

But I think partners don’t need to have gone through with a traditional marriage in order to give a child a good childhood

You can live with each other and have kids without the church or mosque being involved in ur relationship

Being someone who is nationally Scandinavian we have a living style this way called “ Cohabitation” where two adults live with eachother long term without including the Christian church


This is a common style which is increasing in the western world and is also something I’m up for

People who cohabitate have issues stopping them from being married. Healthy mature people don’t do that. Women who agree to that are foolish.

 

[KinsiHilaac]

My question is what makes me responsible to her who's to say I can't just walk out of the relationship. You'll probably respond by saying the government will be, by forcing child support on you and making sure you stay in the kids life. Then I'll rebuttal with, you'll let the government intervene but not a religion, when in fact Islam has delivered a perfect guideline to building a perfect functioning family.

The husband must spend on his children, which includes accommodation, food, drink, clothing, school costs, medical care and all that they need.

That should be worked out on a reasonable basis, paying attention to the husband’s financial situation, because Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Let a man of wealth spend from his wealth, and he whose provision is restricted - let him spend from what Allah has given him. Allah does not charge a soul except [according to] what He has given it. Allah will bring about, after hardship, ease”

[at-Talaaq 65:7].

Yes I do understand religion has set out clear rules about the family unit and that’s good.

I’m providing an alternative for people who are not religious, like me

 

[KinsiHilaac]

People who cohabitate have issues stopping them from being married. Healthy mature people don’t do that. Women who agree to that are foolish.

Agree to disagree

 

[Odious Delirium]

Are you not muslim? I'm confused why would you not be pro marriage.
Is Scandinavia's new system set by government overlords better in your opinion then gods rule? And when does this rule come into play because with marriage its immediately. You speak of long term what is considered long term and If you get pregnant as a woman from a one night stand is he forced by the government to provide and be in the child life although you were not long term partners?

And if you are muslim who exactly are we providing these alternatives for?

 

[KinsiHilaac]

Are you not muslim? I'm confused why would you not be pro marriage.
Is Scandinavia's new system set by government overlords better in your opinion then gods rule? And when does this rule come into play because with marriage its immediately. You speak of long term what is considered long term and If you get pregnant as a woman from a one night stand is he forced by the government to provide and be in the child life although you were not long term partners?

And if you are muslim who exactly are we providing these alternatives for?

I am not Muslim though which is why there is no point in me being pro Islamic marriage, I am not going to have one

 

[Mujaahid Rag ah]

I don’t support the baby mama culture in Black America
Where the child basically don’t have a 2 parent house hold, which result in a bad upbringing

But I think partners don’t need to have gone through with a traditional marriage in order to give a child a good childhood

You can live with each other and have kids without the church or mosque being involved in ur relationship

Being someone who is nationally Scandinavian we have a living style this way called “ Cohabitation” where two adults live with eachother long term without including the Christian church


This is a common style which is increasing in the western world and is also something I’m up for

Another liberal scandi Somali, bye

 

[Osama-bin Al-ballin]

Yes I do understand religion has set out clear rules about the family unit and that’s good.

I’m providing an alternative for people who are not religious, like me

What made you leave the fold of islam

 

[DubatDiaries]

I don’t support the baby mama culture in Black America
Where the child basically don’t have a 2 parent house hold, which result in a bad upbringing

But I think partners don’t need to have gone through with a traditional marriage in order to give a child a good childhood

You can live with each other and have kids without the church or mosque being involved in ur relationship

Being someone who is nationally Scandinavian we have a living style this way called “ Cohabitation” where two adults live with eachother long term without including the Christian church


This is a common style which is increasing in the western world and is also something I’m up for

so a secular marriage? where you go to the courthouse and file out a legal certificate.
Its still marriage tho...

 

[Amber]

I am not Muslim though which is why there is no point in me being pro Islamic marriage, I am not going to have one

But you have Sayid Mohamed, a Darawiish fighter as your pfp? I'm very confused. Respectively, why are you creating an argument about a religion you're not a part of? Why not just turn around and leave it just the way you left it? No need to shove it in.

 

[Odious Delirium]

I am not Muslim though which is why there is no point in me being pro Islamic marriage, I am not going to have one

Ok now your recent posts all make sense.
You don't have to worry about making these arguments tho since it simply doesn't apply to you anymore

 

[Al hashimi]

Why did you leave Islam? @KinsiHilaac

 

[Sophisticate]

Sparingly, do we find cohabitation with no marriage intentions among the financial elite (please don't mention the nouveau riche entertainers or sports figures). Do you mind explaining why marriage in America is a marker of wealth? With the top 10% of wealth holders being largely married.
Cohabitating couples are often poorer. Sweden has different social attitudes on marriage, divorce, cohabitation and children born out of wedlock. So, please stop projecting as many other western nations have greater income inequality with fewer social safety nets and protections available. Also, Sweden still has similar marriage rates as other developed nations despite their progressiveness. They also grant legal and financial benefits of marriage without being married which often isn't the norm elsewhere.

You seem to be pushing alternatives in the wrong milieu. Most of us aren't Scandi. Most are Reer UK, US and Canada. You are failing to realize your audience is predominately Muslim. Even for the least devote among us they are not playing house without plans to wed.

I'd even wager most members here have some level of post secondary education with the highest educated members holding doctorates. Educational attainment and marriage are highly correlated.

So keep that in mind. Next time you push soul partnerships like that of Simone De Bevauoir and Paul Satre.​

 

[hippy60]

I don’t support the baby mama culture in Black America
Where the child basically don’t have a 2 parent house hold, which result in a bad upbringing

But I think partners don’t need to have gone through with a traditional marriage in order to give a child a good childhood

You can live with each other and have kids without the church or mosque being involved in ur relationship

Being someone who is nationally Scandinavian we have a living style this way called “ Cohabitation” where two adults live with eachother long term without including the Christian church


This is a common style which is increasing in the western world and is also something I’m up for

You clarification is not clear and it's foggy

 

[Internet Nomad]

I don’t support the baby mama culture in Black America
Where the child basically don’t have a 2 parent house hold, which result in a bad upbringing

But I think partners don’t need to have gone through with a traditional marriage in order to give a child a good childhood

You can live with each other and have kids without the church or mosque being involved in ur relationship

Being someone who is nationally Scandinavian we have a living style this way called “ Cohabitation” where two adults live with eachother long term without including the Christian church


This is a common style which is increasing in the western world and is also something I’m up for

Your right you could have a 2 parent household without religion.

However, there is a reason why religious house hold tend to contain 2 parents… its because religion give the incentive.

In a world without faith your desires take up the role of god. When a person who main goal is to fulfil their desires they are not mental fit to start and family. Because being a parent is about sacrifice.

Thats why all the gaal mottos like freedom and liberty are all about their freedom to chase their desires as they see fit.

 

[KinsiHilaac]

But you have Sayid Mohamed, a Darawiish fighter as your pfp? I'm very confused. Respectively, why are you creating an argument about a religion you're not a part of? Why not just turn around and leave it just the way you left it? No need to shove it in.

You’re right . But it’s to clear misconceptions on here that I made this thread.

btw about the pfp idk why I wouldn’t be found of Ahmed gurey since he is Somali like me

His Muslim aspect i don’t really care because for me it’s Nation>Religion

 

[Bille]

Where is bloody @Arma ? War kaalay la hadal this Xaliimo! she is literally promoting illegitimate children in your backyard.

 

[Yaraye]

Who the hell wants to do wifely duties for girlfriend price? No meher, no wedding, no haaq and you're cohabiting?