I feel ANRGY that….

There was and they was called “bilad al berber “
Name their current descendants then, none of the reer xamar samaale's claim to be in xamar that long, samaale living more than a millennium ago isn't even known. Bilaad Zaylac and Bilaad Xaafuun was also used for the horn so that doesn't prove anything
 
Name their current descendants then, none of the reer xamar samaale's claim to be in xamar that long, samaale living more than a millennium ago isn't even known. Bilaad Zaylac and Bilaad Xaafuun was also used for the horn so that doesn't prove anything
I don’t know enough history of the rulers in southern Somalia since my forefathers ain’t from there but can I tag u someone more knowledgeable on that case
 

Khaem

VIP
Majority are Arab tribes, you can't even name 10 banadiri tribes and ur out here waffling. Name the tribes of Indian stock if they're majority then
Claiming arabs and being Arab is two different things. You are predominantly Indian/South asians.

Over stating your Arab ancestry to get some spot in somali society is all you did.

Indians were the biggest traders in the indian ocean and since benadiri are the result of the indian ocean trade it would make sense you'd be of Indian stock
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Samaale's are the indigenous people by genetic and historical evidence, exception of the Hakuna Matata manuscripts.
No genetic or historical evidence, historical evidence would be like the reer xamar samaale's claiming to be indigenous. Don't be jealous that your people relied on Chinese whispers transmission of historical events and not recording them in manuscripts
banaadir There is no mention of them in the history except in Hakuna Matata manuscripts
Our own written history suffices us
So the Hakuna Matata manuscripts, which are undated and filled with legends, are more reliable than external sources like Ibn Battuta.
A manuscript from makkah is more reliable about history of makkah than a travellers book
ودَّت الزانية لو أنَّ النساء كلهن زوانٍ
That applies to you. Why can't your people suffice with claiming their rich history in baadiya? Or is it that there's nothing to claim?
 

Khaem

VIP
No genetic or historical evidence, historical evidence would be like the reer xamar samaale's claiming to be indigenous. Don't be jealous that your people relied on Chinese whispers transmission of historical events and not recording them in manuscripts

Our own written history suffices us

A manuscript from makkah is more reliable about history of makkah than a travellers book

That applies to you. Why can't your people suffice with claiming their rich history in baadiya? Or is it that there's nothing to claim?
Our history is very simple.

It's you who's mixed ancestry doesn't suffice so you claim the history of Coastal Somali. You are predominantly Indian and are the product of mixed marriages by merchants but you claim Arab to get a social place in somali society. You then try link coastal somali history to Arabs as a way of claiming it as benadiri because benadir have no direct lineage so you rely on a few Arab traders from yemen to make a claim on the Somali peninsula.
 
Claiming arabs and being Arab is two different things. You are predominantly Indian/South asians.
Name the tribes then since you know it all
Over stating your Arab ancestry to get some spot in somali society is all you did.
That would be the case if they were living in baadiya when it's not they live alone on the coast
Indians were the biggest traders in the indian ocean and since benadiri are the result of the indian ocean trade it would make sense you'd be of Indian stock
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That blog doesn't mention the person's tribes , could be a banadiri with lamagoodle mother side that doesn't prove anything.

If you're gonna show results show ones where both their paternal and maternal tribes are mentioned
 
Claiming arabs and being Arab is two different things. You are predominantly Indian/South asians.

Over stating your Arab ancestry to get some spot in somali society is all you did.

Indians were the biggest traders in the indian ocean and since benadiri are the result of the indian ocean trade it would make sense you'd be of Indian stock
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I really don’t understand why this guy is ashamed of his mixed ancestry. His inferiority complex is embarrassing, constantly posting about how we’re supposedly jealous of his m%tt people but getting upset when someone says him and his people are not Somali. A lot of mixed race people seem to have mental issues. Sad.
 

Khaem

VIP
Name the tribes then since you know it all

That would be the case if they were living in baadiya when it's not they live alone on the coast

That blog doesn't mention the person's tribes , could be a banadiri with lamagoodle mother side that doesn't prove anything.

If you're gonna show results show ones where both their paternal and maternal tribes are mentioned
I don't need to name all the tribes. I wouldn't be able to name 20 somali tribes off the top of my head.


Genetic studies show that is the average. It varies person to person since you are not a single block of people but a bunch of mixed somalis grouped under the term "benadir"
 
Our history is very simple.
Yh nothing is very simple indeed
It's you who's mixed ancestry doesn't suffice so you claim the history of Coastal Somali. You are predominantly Indian and are the product of mixed marriages by merchants but you claim Arab to get a social place in somali society.
This applies to daroods and samaales who falsely claimed Arab. Banaadiri Arabs lived on the coast alone not in the middle of baadiya to be attempting to acquire high social status
You then try link coastal somali history to Arabs as a way of claiming it as benadiri because benadir have no direct lineage so you rely on a few Arab traders from yemen to make a claim on the Somali peninsula.
Who are those coastal Somali? How come all the samaales of the coast claim to have migrated from interior certain number of generations ago?
 
I don't need to name all the tribes. I wouldn't be able to name 20 somali tribes off the top of my head.

Name atleast one then you know you can't so u play daft
Genetic studies show that is the average. It varies person to person since you are not a single block of people but a bunch of mixed somalis grouped under the term "benadir"
There's no average for reer xamars , averages would be for each tribe. Mixture varies from family to family, a family who've only been on the coast while have different results to a family who've been in interior for few generations.
 

Khaem

VIP
Yh nothing is very simple indeed

This applies to daroods and samaales who falsely claimed Arab. Banaadiri Arabs lived on the coast alone not in the middle of baadiya to be attempting to acquire high social status

Who are those coastal Somali? How come all the samaales of the coast claim to have migrated from interior certain number of generations ago?
You can read many books and articles like I.M Lewis ect.

It's well known that somalis simply claimed important figures of guys in Arabia to link themselves to the house of the prophet. Many tribes around the muslim world do this. From West Africa to Pakistan this is seen. It isn't them saying they are arabs. But rather showing that they are part of the house of the prophet and by extension the House of Islam.

Coastal somali? They are just somalis who live on the coast. Not an alien race lmao. Like saying "who are the coastal italians"

Somali clans are polticial entities. Who cares if the tomb of a man is found in hararghe. Doesn't change the fact the Somali peninsula was inhabited by east Cushites and before the Cushitic peoples the Somali peninsula was inhabited by hunter gatherer Khoi San.

Arabs and Persians never had a major presence in easy Africa. Especially not enough to make a single city. Let alone a major town.

You are the ones desperatly trying to get social standing in somali cities. That's why you shamed you Hindi Ancestors and claimed you were a Ibrahim straight from Arabia.
 
You can read many books and articles like I.M Lewis ect.
I don't need that when our own sources suffice us.
It's well known that somalis simply claimed important figures of guys in Arabia to link themselves to the house of the prophet. Many tribes around the muslim world do this. From West Africa to Pakistan this is seen. It isn't them saying they are arabs. But rather showing that they are part of the house of the prophet and by extension the House of Islam.
Must be disappointing for your ancestors, their descendants denied their existence in search of more "noble" ancestors
Coastal somali? They are just somalis who live on the coast. Not an alien race lmao. Like saying "who are the coastal italians"
There aren't any samaales native to banaadir coast
Somali clans are polticial entities. Who cares if the tomb of a man is found in hararghe. Doesn't change the fact the Somali peninsula was inhabited by east Cushites and before the Cushitic peoples the Somali peninsula was inhabited by hunter gatherer Khoi San.
No such thing as Somali peninsula that's something colonizers came up with. No evidence of khoisans inhabiting the horn prior to cushites
Arabs and Persians never had a major presence in easy Africa. Especially not enough to make a single city. Let alone a major town.
They didn't have major presence in whole of east Africa other than the coast, yet they had major influence, how else do you think Islam spread out through East Africa?
You are the ones desperatly trying to get social standing in somali cities. That's why you shamed you Hindi Ancestors and claimed you were a Ibrahim straight from Arabia.
That would be the case if I was claiming "ancient samaale" cities like dhuusamareeb or galkacyo etc
 

Cush

Cushite Arab
This applies to daroods and samaales who falsely claimed Arab. Banaadiri Arabs lived on the coast alone not in the middle of baadiya to be attempting to acquire high social status
Erm Darood taariikh is verified in the books of history and he was met by a famous Islamic historian the taariikh of Jabarta is written, Ismaciil Jabarti is divided into 2, 1 returned to Arabia while Darood stayed
Also Quraysh are E-Y18629
 
He’s mixed, he’s not Somali. Are Somalis living in London considered Europeans?
Have the Somalis in London lived in London for more than 500 yrs?

Is 50% of their DNA Anglo Saxon?

Have they built a few of the areas in central London?

If they did, they’d be seen as native and a huge part of the country’s history and would be honored as such.

You’d have to be incredibly racist and horrible to dismiss such a people. They’re not immigrants that came yesterday. No society would claim a group that have lived, actually have native blood and actually built parts of the country as not being from that country. No one group would behave this way.
 

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