So somali women love IR what do think this post was made. You guys hate our people. Somalinimo till i dhimo. The only girl that was positive was the one that madd the qabil video
I don't know who needs to hear this..
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What? I simply respect my parents opinions I also do not want to marry outside of my own country.
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Hypacrit
I can reject anyone i want and no imam or scholar or sheik cant take guardianship away from which allah gave it to me
So i can reject my son or sons potential spouse but i cant reject my daughter or daughters potential spouse Tht is double stander hadithBut a parent cannot reject a potential spouse for their daughter in Islam due to race or ethnicity.
If the daughter wants to marry that potential spouse and the parent has no other reason for rejecting apart from their race or ethnicity, they lose their guardianship status over their daughter. The next male relative (generally grandfather) is expected to take over and if they're reject it, then the local Islamic leader will take guardianship status.
Islam does not believe in nationalism, so do not tie your nationalism to Islam.
I can reject anyone i want and no imam or scholar or sheik cant take guardianship away from which allah gave it to me
No, in Islam your son doesn’t have to ask your permission for a spouse but your daughter does.
@Periplus is indoctrinated by SJW liberalism, don't take what he says seriously.
Here are some of his remarks he made before on this topic:
Forget about parents, he doesn't believe in free will and thinks that as a Somali man, you are not allowed to reject a white girl for marriage for the sole reason of them being white. Simply having a preference to marry your own people, is wrong.
He doesn't even believe that being a Muslim is the #1 consideration for marriage because the Jamaican might convert in the future. What kind of Somali man pressures a girl that isn't interested in a non-Muslim Jamaican to marry him? @Qeelbax
Never take what this guy says seriously. I have never seen this guy take a position that wasn't ultra liberal SJW pro neo-colonialist.
Here are some of his remarks he made before on this topic:
Forget about parents, he doesn't believe in free will and thinks that as a Somali man, you are not allowed to reject a white girl for marriage for the sole reason of them being white. Simply having a preference to marry your own people, is wrong.
You have to ask yourself, what is his agenda here? Why is he against Somali people marrying each other? Why does he insist on using Islam to propagate his liberal views? The answer is simple, by using Islam he wants to guilt trip the Western Somali community into wiping itself from existence. He claims to be Majerteen, but the Majerteen users here all say he is a sheegato.
He doesn't even believe that being a Muslim is the #1 consideration for marriage because the Jamaican might convert in the future. What kind of Somali man pressures a girl that isn't interested in a non-Muslim Jamaican to marry him? @Qeelbax
Never take what this guy says seriously. I have never seen this guy take a position that wasn't ultra liberal SJW pro neo-colonialist.
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For interracial marriages, it is haram for a Muslim woman to marry non-Muslim man. I'm very surprised you didn't mention it in your long comment that you wrote in defense of IR relationships.
Even those who are Muslims, the weli can still reject the marriage if he has concerns about the man who is about to marry his daughter, sister, granddaughter, or niece. People run to Hanafi madhab when they want to bypass it, but Ibn Haniifa himself stated if my reasoning contradictions with the deen or the jameeca, throw my interpretation.
But I'm still surprised that you don't mention that the man has to be a Muslim in inter-racial relationship in this comment that you solely wrote it to defend IR relationships. Perhaps there is more to the story than meets the eye!!
I think Africans need to have regard for themselves regardless of religion and telling them to be open to others is a bad idea -- especially when Africans occupy the bottom in material and reputational terms on a global scale.
The power dynamic is not in our favour and I am sick and tired of seeing Africans desperately trying to get accepted by others, as though they have to absolve themselves of a black specific original sin by being deferential to others.
Even when I was a Christian, I never identified with non-blacks.
Are you a Muslim now?
Stop being silly. This whole thread is about Muslims marrying fellow Muslims interracially. Don't @ me if you're going to imply that I approve of haram marriages. Do you lack common sense? Are Somalis the only Muslims?!
My first paragraph literally said a father can reject if he is concerned about culture class and that Islam takes Urf into consideration.
Someone book @Roorigeg a reading comprehension class. You're actually embarrassing yourself at this point.
Why are you @ing me then? Just to argue with me? Biskina.
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Keep it a boqol
VIP
If @Periplus was a sheikh or Imam, this nigga would be letting somalis girls marry reverts straight outta jail left and right and being their weli because the girls family said no.
Nilotic
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No, Atheist
@Roorigeg I've had enough of you.
Stop lying about me and stop twisting my points. You argue in bad faith and you've proven you're a liar.
I even said in my first paragraph that a father can reject based on Urf ect so what the hell is wrong with you?!
Lets add to the list, according to you:
I've committed a major sin.
I approve of marrying gaals.
I'm married to a Nigerian scammer.
You're actually a deranged. I'm irritated with you and its the month of Ramadan so please leave me alone and stop lying about me.
Stop lying about me and stop twisting my points. You argue in bad faith and you've proven you're a liar.
I even said in my first paragraph that a father can reject based on Urf ect so what the hell is wrong with you?!
Lets add to the list, according to you:
I've committed a major sin.
I approve of marrying gaals.
I'm married to a Nigerian scammer.
You're actually a deranged. I'm irritated with you and its the month of Ramadan so please leave me alone and stop lying about me.
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I agree. Not to stereotype reverts but imagine the rest of their family are gaal. That’s not only difficult but confusing for your children
In your comment, there was no mention of the husband being a Muslim. That is what I took an issue. I was surprised why you avoided it. So my comment was only about correcting your statement there.
I wasn't silly; I was merely correcting it.
My comment was only to make clear that a Muslim woman can't marry a non-Muslim man. That was the essence of my comment. I didn't accuse you of anything else.
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The whole flipping thread is about marrying other Muslims interracially.
Why would OP say that fathers can't stop interracial marriages. Even 5 yr old knows that Muslim women regardless of race cannot marry a gaal. That has nothing to do with the conversation. Forget fathers, in a Musli country the judge qaadi you name it would never allow such a marriage.
You simply want to get on my nerves and nickpick.
Not marrying a gaal has nothing to with IR. A muslim Somali lady can't even marry a gaal Somali. Everyone knows this for goodness sake.
Now I am with you. If you would've made that clear, we wouldn't even need this back and forth discussion. Now that you made it clear, we're good.
