moosaid
:"Cadaanka wada Loolanaa madow Cisayn Mayno"
I apologize to everyone if I have offended anyone. Let us forgive each other; we are all Muslims.
@caano_shaah
@TheLand @Barkhadle1520
@SpaceyCadet
@Idilinaa
I decided to shut down social media and Somali politics after this it's over
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I apologize to everyone if I have offended anyone. Let us forgive each other; we are all Muslims.
@caano_shaah
@TheLand @Barkhadle1520
@SpaceyCadet
@Idilinaa
Mohamedamiin120
Marxist-Leninist, Somali (Galbeed).
Have a aim and chase it, giving up will make the problem worse.
A better world is possible.
A better world is possible.
moosaid
:"Cadaanka wada Loolanaa madow Cisayn Mayno"
insha'Allah sxb i will
Idilinaa
VIP
I seriously doubt it. A lot of people here, like you, never seem to move on from their grudges and coolaad toward the wider Somali collective.
It feels like there’s no cure for it , maybe because the internet keeps people insulated in echo chambers. They just log on, crash out on forums or social media, and look for examples and anecdotes to fuel their doom-posting.
Meanwhile, if you check any Western diaspora media, you’ll find reports of murders, arson, and all kinds of violence happening regularly. They don't involve Somalis at all.
For example, here are two recent UK stories:
www.lemonde.fr
www.bbc.com
They constantly release this type of stuff on their social media outlets:
But I don’t see anyone making endless threads about "those" cases. Maybe you and @Avalanche should do that make threads like “Another murder in the UK” or “Family burned to death tragic but expected.” Be creative with the titles!
After all, it’s very important for the “forever diaspora” and tahriib merchants to know that paradise has its problems too.
It feels like there’s no cure for it , maybe because the internet keeps people insulated in echo chambers. They just log on, crash out on forums or social media, and look for examples and anecdotes to fuel their doom-posting.
Meanwhile, if you check any Western diaspora media, you’ll find reports of murders, arson, and all kinds of violence happening regularly. They don't involve Somalis at all.
For example, here are two recent UK stories:
UK police charge man with 10 counts of attempted murder following train mass stabbing
Transport police said the suspected attacker, Anthony Williams, also faced a separate attempted murder charge over another incident at a train station in London on Saturday. They were also investigating if he was involved in three other knife incidents.
www.lemonde.fr
London house fire: Brent murder arrest as mum and children die
A 41-year-old man was arrested at the scene on suspicion of murder and remains in custody.
www.bbc.com
They constantly release this type of stuff on their social media outlets:
But I don’t see anyone making endless threads about "those" cases. Maybe you and @Avalanche should do that make threads like “Another murder in the UK” or “Family burned to death tragic but expected.” Be creative with the titles!
After all, it’s very important for the “forever diaspora” and tahriib merchants to know that paradise has its problems too.
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Well, I wasn't referring specifically to this incident, but more generally to the fact that Somali politics is highly polarised and corrupt. There is no glimmer of hope in sight.I seriously doubt it. A lot of people here, like you, never seem to move on from their grudges and coolaad toward the wider Somali collective.
It feels like there’s no cure for it , maybe because the internet keeps people insulated in echo chambers. They just log on, crash out on forums or social media, and look for examples and anecdotes to fuel their doom-posting.
Meanwhile, if you check any Western diaspora media, you’ll find reports of murders, arson, and all kinds of violence happening regularly. They don't involve Somalis at all.
For example, here are two recent UK stories:
UK police charge man with 10 counts of attempted murder following train mass stabbing
Transport police said the suspected attacker, Anthony Williams, also faced a separate attempted murder charge over another incident at a train station in London on Saturday. They were also investigating if he was involved in three other knife incidents.
London house fire: Brent murder arrest as mum and children die
A 41-year-old man was arrested at the scene on suspicion of murder and remains in custody.
They constantly release this type of stuff on their social media outlets:
But I don’t see anyone making endless threads about "those" cases. Maybe you and @Avalanche should do that make threads like “Another murder in the UK” or “Family burned to death tragic but expected.” Be creative with the titles!
After all, it’s very important for the “forever diaspora” and tahriib merchants to know that paradise has its problems too.
I always say this but some are prone to catastrophizing and somalis seem to have lower tolerance for extreme incidents than most other people imo ..I seriously doubt it. A lot of people here, like you, never seem to move on from their grudges and coolaad toward the wider Somali collective.
It feels like there’s no cure for it , maybe because the internet keeps people insulated in echo chambers. They just log on, crash out on forums or social media, and look for examples and anecdotes to fuel their doom-posting.
Meanwhile, if you check any Western diaspora media, you’ll find reports of murders, arson, and all kinds of violence happening regularly. They don't involve Somalis at all.
For example, here are two recent UK stories:
UK police charge man with 10 counts of attempted murder following train mass stabbing
Transport police said the suspected attacker, Anthony Williams, also faced a separate attempted murder charge over another incident at a train station in London on Saturday. They were also investigating if he was involved in three other knife incidents.
London house fire: Brent murder arrest as mum and children die
A 41-year-old man was arrested at the scene on suspicion of murder and remains in custody.
They constantly release this type of stuff on their social media outlets:
But I don’t see anyone making endless threads about "those" cases. Maybe you and @Avalanche should do that make threads like “Another murder in the UK” or “Family burned to death tragic but expected.” Be creative with the titles!
After all, it’s very important for the “forever diaspora” and tahriib merchants to know that paradise has its problems too.
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Idilinaa
VIP
I understand why it might feel that way, but it’s important to separate political or clan narratives from the everyday behavior of ordinary Somalis , most people’s actions and relationships aren’t driven by clan loyalties.
In reality, there’s very little fixed “clan loyalty” in politics. People tend to support whoever best represents their interests, and even within the same clan, political loyalties often shift and diversify over time.
Take the Omar Fateh case, for example. Somalis from across clans came out to vote for him , the data clearly shows that most voted for him. It was only a small number of Jacob Frey supporters who tried to spin the narrative online, rallying people who don’t even live in Minneapolis (and some without voting rights) to flood comment sections. Trolls then amplified it, making it seem like a wider issue than it really was.
That’s why it’s so important to ignore and disengage from divisive “clan talk.” It doesn’t reflect how Somali politics or communities actually function.
There’s even solid research showing this. One study published in African Affairs found that while Somali political debates often invoke clan language, clan itself isn’t the real mechanism of political mobilization:
Political Identity as Temporal Collapse: Ethiopian Federalism and Contested Ogaden Histories
Abstract. Since the 1980s, analyses of African political identities have emphasized identity manipulation as a governance tool. In the Somali Horn of Afric
academic.oup.com
In other words, clan is often used as a narrative framing tool, not a true basis of political alignment. Real divisions come from the same socio-economic factors and policy disagreements you’d find in any other society.
That’s why it’s even more important to separate political elites and their struggles from the wider population , especially in Somalia, where service delivery, business, and development are largely driven by private enterprise and community effort.
My advice? Focus on policy, economics, education, collaboration, and professional development and avoid getting pulled into identity politics, online drama, or factional disputes.
Idilinaa
VIP
I think it’s like you said before , in many other countries, people behave almost like estranged strangers to each other. They’re less responsive, and often don’t even register what happens to others.
Somalis are the complete opposite. They’re deeply communal and emotionally responsive, so when something bad happens, the whole community reacts with intensity. A single incident can create collective hysteria.
But if you actually zoom out and look at the data, the total number of crimes or murders in Somali regions is relatively low. If I remember correctly, there were around 89 murders in Somaliland and 47 in Puntland for 2021–2022 based on the police reports , against a population of roughly 4–5 million people. I suspect its similar if you look at other regions. The news, however, isolates each case, turns it into a headline, and amplifies people’s outrage. It feels worse than it actually is because every isolated event gets magnified socially and emotionally.
The average person doesn’t feel unsafe and can go their whole life without ever experiencing such incidents but of course, the news will never report:
“Nothing happened today. Novonova spent the day with his family, took out the garbage, ran some errands, and enjoyed his Sunday afternoon.”
That’s exactly why I avoid watching the news. I’d rather engage with discussions, articles, studies, documentaries, and books , things that actually inform instead of just provoke emotions.
