I can’t get over the fact that Christian’s don’t know who authored their bible

[Bluefire]

Like as Muslims we have chains of narrations for the hadiths, the Quran has been preserved perfectly and we know who learnt it from whom from the prophet onwards.

But Christian’s have no idea who luke,Paul etc who authored the bible are.Some of them wrote the bible 100 years after prophet esa died and never actually met him.

imagine if I said here is a book that guides humanity but I couldn’t tell you who wrote it

@AbdiFreedom explain yourself

 

[Maxaa kaa galay]

Like as Muslims we have chains of narrations for the hadiths, the Quran has been preserved perfectly and we know who learnt it from whom from the prophet onwards.

But Christian’s have no idea who luke,Paul etc who authored the bible are.

imagine if I said here is a book that guides humanity but I couldn’t tell you who wrote it

@AbdiFreedom explain yourself

The same people that was against Jesus authored it sxb like Paul(Saul).

 

[Xoxoxo]

I think the original form and who wrote it etc was either put away somewhere, lost or even destroyed.

conspiracy theory:

according to some weird thinkers, they stay that the original bible book is in the Vatican and won’t ever be seen by humans for various reasons

 

[Bluefire]

I think the original form and who wrote it etc was either put away somewhere, lost or even destroyed.

conspiracy theory:

according to some weird thinkers, they stay that the original bible book is in the Vatican and won’t ever be seen by humans for various reasons

There is no original bible.

the injeel (the book that prohpet esa came down with) is not the bible.

 

[Al Muslim]

Like as Muslims we have chains of narrations for the hadiths, the Quran has been preserved perfectly and we know who learnt it from whom from the prophet onwards.

But Christian’s have no idea who luke,Paul etc who authored the bible are.Some of them wrote the bible 100 years after prophet esa died and never actually met him.

imagine if I said here is a book that guides humanity but I couldn’t tell you who wrote it

@AbdiFreedom explain yourself

Don't forget the fact that there are several different versions of the bible for example

• English Standard Version. ...
• King James Version. ...
• New American Standard Bible. ...
• New English Bible. ...
• New International Version. ...
• New King James Version. ...
• New Living Translation. ...
• New Revised Standard Version.

and so on.
With many having significant differences. Watch sheikh Ahmed Deedats debates on the bible, it shows how corrupted and fabricated the modern versions of the bible are.

 

[Xoxoxo]

There is no original bible.

the injeel (the book that prohpet esa came down with) is not the bible.

According to some people the original bible either got destroyed or is being hold in a place

 

[Adagio]

The ‘bible’ is merely a concocted hodgepodge of canaanite council of nicaea conjob jibberish, inaccurate translations, out of time sequence material arranged to confuse, ghost writer contributions, convenient deletions, speculations, ambiguities, selective narrative inclusion/ counter narrative omission etc etc.

 

[Bluefire]

Don't forget the fact that there are several different versions of the bible for example

• English Standard Version. ...
• King James Version. ...
• New American Standard Bible. ...
• New English Bible. ...
• New International Version. ...
• New King James Version. ...
• New Living Translation. ...
• New Revised Standard Version.

and so on.
With many having significant differences. Watch sheikh Ahmed Deedats debates on the bible, it shows how corrupted and fabricated the modern versions of the bible are.

Some wild stuff.

It’s crazy the academic rigour of the Quran and Hadith even haters of Islam have to admit that the Quran had been perfectly preserved.

 

[Mr.Humphrey]

The quran has hundreds of verses missing from surah al-ahzab, it used to be the size of baqarah. Lots of quran was lost after the prophet died and before the quran was compiled during the apostacy wars and the conflict with musaylimah. Then again I wouldn't expect your average somali who never studied the quran and the history of islam intensely to know this.

Most of the stuff you were taught in those hadiths are fabricated within the last 200 years by the saudi government and wahabi movements. Please do your research on the origins of Christianity and Islam and how they sprung from Judaism. Tell the saudi government to open madina so we can see the prophets perfectly preserved body according to the sahih hadith. I have my doubts on whether Muhammad is actually even buried there.

Why is there no mention of the Kabah or Makkah during any trading routes with the romans, yet there is a surat named after the romans supposedly predicting their victory over the persians during the time of its revalation? I know I am going to get hate for this but i also believe the quran was written after the prophets time like the bible. Why the need for abrogations and contradicting laws relating to alcohol if all the quran came from the same source? I respect peoples beliefs but please go do research guys and don't let societal conditioning and your cognitive biases prevent you from seeking alternative information.

Chrisitians and Jews according to hadith said that the Quran was falsified by Muhammad and this then led to the cleansing of the Jews from Madina, this helped solidify Madina as a power base. Only when not following abrahamic religions can one look objectively and realise that these religions were political idealogies that sprung from the combination of monotheism from the zoroastrians and the 42 laws of ma'at that the ancient egyptians followed, this then gave rise to the ten commandments. The desire for power over the followers of Jesus led to the adoption of christianity by the Romans, and the desire for an empire for the Arab peoples that were sandwiched between the Romans and Persians led to the creation of Islam.

 

[AMusee]

 

[Bluefire]

The quran has hundreds of verses missing from surah al-ahzab, it used to be the size of baqarah. Lots of quran was lost after the prophet died and before the quran was compiled during the apostacy wars and the conflict with musaylimah. Then again I wouldn't expect your average somali who never studied the quran and the history of islam intensely to know this.

Most of the stuff you were taught in those hadiths are fabricated within the last 200 years by the saudi government and wahabi movements. Please do your research on the origins of Christianity and Islam and how they sprung from Judaism. Tell the saudi government to open madina so we can see the prophets perfectly preserved body according to the sahih hadith. I have my doubts on whether Muhammad is actually even buried there.

Why is there no mention of the Kabah or Makkah during any trading routes with the romans, yet there is a surat named after the romans supposedly predicting their victory over the persians during the time of its revalation? I know I am going to get hate for this but i also believe the quran was written after the prophets time like the bible. Why the need for abrogations and contradicting laws relating to alcohol if all the quran came from the same source? I respect peoples beliefs but please go do research guys and don't let societal conditioning and your cognitive biases prevent you from seeking alternative information.

Chrisitians and Jews according to hadith said that the Quran was falsified by Muhammad and this then led to the cleansing of the Jews from Madina, this helped solidify Madina as a power base. Only when not following abrahamic religions can one look objectively and realise that these religions were political idealogies that sprung from the combination of monotheism from the zoroastrians and the 42 laws of ma'at that the ancient egyptians followed, this then gave rise to the ten commandments. The desire for power over the followers of Jesus led to the adoption of christianity by the Romans, and the desire for an empire for the Arab peoples that were sandwiched between the Romans and Persians led to the creation of Islam.

Look man I am not here for a debate but you can check secular institutions like Oxford university believe that the Quran has remained unchanged.

Your brain dribble is a whole load of nothing.

 

[AMusee]

 

[AMusee]

 

[Mr.Humphrey]

Look man I am not here for a debate but you can check secular institutions like Oxford university believe that the Quran has remained unchanged.

Your brain dribble is a whole load of nothing.

Right, so its ok for you to attack Christianity but when met with an opposing viewpoint the response is apathy. We all know that you can not question the Islamic narrative without causing massive civil unrest nowadays. It is the reason why you can make any joke about jesus in the west but say a thing about Muhammad and you will get your head chopped off in the street.

You made the thread here, if you were just looking for an echo chamber why not post in r/Islam? I doubt people like you would even pick up a book that contained differing opinions, would probably result in that brain of yours getting fried. You guys tend to have lower computing powers than most.

 

[Bluefire]

Right, so its ok for you to attack Christianity but when met with an opposing viewpoint the response is apathy. We all know that you can not question the Islamic narrative without causing massive civil unrest nowadays. It is the reason why you can make any joke about jesus in the west but say a thing about Muhammad and you will get your head chopped off in the street.

You made the thread here, if you were just looking for an echo chamber why not post in r/Islam? I doubt people like you would even pick up a book that contained differing opinions, would probably result in that brain of yours getting fried. You guys tend to have lower computing powers than most.

Start your own thread then.

Equal opportunity and all that.

stop with the victim complex.

 

[Mr.Humphrey]

Start your own thread then.

Equal opportunity and all that.

stop with the victim complex.

 

[Xoxoxo]

Right, so its ok for you to attack Christianity but when met with an opposing viewpoint the response is apathy. We all know that you can not question the Islamic narrative without causing massive civil unrest nowadays. It is the reason why you can make any joke about jesus in the west but say a thing about Muhammad and you will get your head chopped off in the street.

You made the thread here, if you were just looking for an echo chamber why not post in r/Islam? I doubt people like you would even pick up a book that contained differing opinions, would probably result in that brain of yours getting fried. You guys tend to have lower computing powers than most.

Y’all let Jesus get disrespected, others don’t even do that much.

people know they can’t disrespect prophet Moses or prophet Mohammed (pbuh) because Muslims and Jews don’t play like that. We won’t let idiots disrespect our prophet/messenger & religion.

 

[Clllam]

The quran has hundreds of verses missing from surah al-ahzab, it used to be the size of baqarah. Lots of quran was lost after the prophet died and before the quran was compiled during the apostacy wars and the conflict with musaylimah. Then again I wouldn't expect your average somali who never studied the quran and the history of islam intensely to know this.

Most of the stuff you were taught in those hadiths are fabricated within the last 200 years by the saudi government and wahabi movements. Please do your research on the origins of Christianity and Islam and how they sprung from Judaism. Tell the saudi government to open madina so we can see the prophets perfectly preserved body according to the sahih hadith. I have my doubts on whether Muhammad is actually even buried there.

Why is there no mention of the Kabah or Makkah during any trading routes with the romans, yet there is a surat named after the romans supposedly predicting their victory over the persians during the time of its revalation? I know I am going to get hate for this but i also believe the quran was written after the prophets time like the bible. Why the need for abrogations and contradicting laws relating to alcohol if all the quran came from the same source? I respect peoples beliefs but please go do research guys and don't let societal conditioning and your cognitive biases prevent you from seeking alternative information.

Chrisitians and Jews according to hadith said that the Quran was falsified by Muhammad and this then led to the cleansing of the Jews from Madina, this helped solidify Madina as a power base. Only when not following abrahamic religions can one look objectively and realise that these religions were political idealogies that sprung from the combination of monotheism from the zoroastrians and the 42 laws of ma'at that the ancient egyptians followed, this then gave rise to the ten commandments. The desire for power over the followers of Jesus led to the adoption of christianity by the Romans, and the desire for an empire for the Arab peoples that were sandwiched between the Romans and Persians led to the creation of Islam.

Littered with falsehood, fabrication, conjecture, random irrelevant guesses, and hate. Gtfoh

 

[Mr.Humphrey]

Y’all let Jesus get disrespected, others don’t even do that much.

people know they can’t disrespect prophet Moses or prophet Mohammed (pbuh) because Muslims and Jews don’t play like that. We won’t let idiots disrespect our prophet/messenger & religion.

I'm not a christian so do not care what you say about Jesus. He is Y'alls prophet so you should be defending him. When Y'all are in the majority no religious freedom, but when Y'all are the minority Y'all cry about Islamophobia.

An idiot kills humans over a spiritual belief, why don't you 'Rouse the believers to wage war' in the West and see how that goes. Also Jews don't kill people over moses so stop trying to hide behind them.

 

[Xoxoxo]

I'm not a christian so do not care what you say about Jesus. He is Y'alls prophet so you should be defending him. When Y'all are in the majority no religious freedom, but when Y'all are the minority Y'all cry about Islamophobia.

An idiot kills humans over a spiritual belief, why don't you 'Rouse the believers to wage war' in the West and see how that goes. Also Jews don't kill people over moses so stop trying to hide behind them.

What???? Jesus is the son of god according to Christian’s and he’s depicted as a white man, that’s not my Jesus so that’s not my problem.