HSM officially declares his support Ethiopia and the GERD

[El Nino]

The political elite of Somalia still believe we live in 2007 and thus lack some fucking dhiig.

Nothing is going to happen, if FGS starts acting independently and asserts its sovereignity. EU is broke and increasingly xenophobic, its not going to do anything to Somalia. It has stopped financing AU forces and Uncle Sam won’t pick up the bill.

Speaking of America, they have backed off a little bit of their crusade against Islam. Only thing they cared about is propping up Israel and weakening its neighbouring countries and Somalia is not on this.

Only way Somalia would be sanctioned by western countries is, if it could support arab countries in a meaningul way and thats not going to happen anytime soon. Even if possible, somalis could literally just refuse.

There is literally nothing stopping Somalia from pursuing its nationalistic interests. ICU was crushed because it was Islamically based organisation, that wanted to mold Somalia into more Islamically orientated direction. ICUs scope was big and ambitious, which the people of Somalia so badly don’t have now.

America has slashed foreign aid, EU has already and the somali political elite have already taken notice of the fact, that their backers are slowly walking away from them. American officials have literally drawn up plans to contain Somalia, if AS takes over and thats likely because the FGS is just incompetent.


These somali political elite are defeated and there is no organisations or figures to replace them. Ilaahey amarkiis somaliweyn is achievable and gaalka cad wouldn’t lift a finger.

There is nothing stopping from FGS from kicking out corruption, increasing taxation revenue, establishing discipline in the army and meritrocacy. The private sector has done everything, somalis are resourceful people. FGS only job would be establishing safety and building roads and the economy would quadruple. At the same time FGS could kick out Ethiopias and other foreign troops from Somalia.

Somebody tell the somali political elite the white man doesn’t give a single fuxk what níqqers do, he is not going to stop you and he certainly doesn’t care if you squabble with your fellow negroes. Even if he shares the same faith as your opponent, these people do not put religion over skintone and have stopped being proper christians 60 years ago.

 

[Zak12]

It will, you don't understand how this works

Abiy said it himself he will re invest the revenue from GERD into more major infrastructure, he's aiming for Nuclear now

If he multiples projects like these 1 Billion can quickly turn into 10

That is an ambitous plan but one that will go beyond Abiy's term. GERD alone isn't going to suddenly fix Ethiopia's economy and lift millions out of poverty. Its another expensive vanity project.

It's not just him, most of the critic comes from Ethiopians of all walks of life. Here is an Ethiopian intellectual ''Professor Alemayahu'' completely bewildered by it. The Ethiopian government just farts out fake GDP growth stats and no one buys it.
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If you even look at it's exports on what it reports, it doesn't even make much sense either.

Their Agricultural total export revenue is 3.3 billion and coffee made up 1.5 billion of that. The rest being sesame and fresh cut flowers.

While Uganda agricultural export revenue is around 3.9 billion. This is the same country that had net 0 yield increase with an economy of a reported 40 billion in GDP.

Also with GDP it factors in how much you also produce for domestic consumption and purchase as well, they are in no way meeting the subsistence threshold for that either with all the food shortages and famines.

There is no way you can rationalize that type of growth rate.



GERD is included in that.

The article said: ''For comparison, the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD) – a hydroelectric dam expected to produce 5,000 megawatts of electricity once completed – is expected to cost US$4.2 billion. Even in ordinary circumstances, for a country of Ethiopia’s size and development needs, the wisdom of spending such huge sums on projects with minimal economic returns is highly questionable.''


and it further said: ''These outlays are even more perplexing in the face of recent budget cuts to several sectors, including education and new infrastructure projects. Regional states are struggling to pay the salaries of government employees. In some cases, public school teachers have gone months without pay. The reconstruction of regions destroyed by civil war has also taken the back seat while more money is being poured into military hardware.

 

[Devilsadvocate]

This is a big milestone for Ethiopia and Abiy Ahmed. It is a shame that we have been cursed with HSM, whose biggest “achievement” in five years is evicting the poor. The standards of our political elites are in hell.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

The political elite of Somalia still believe we live in 2007 and thus lack some fucking dhiig.

Nothing is going to happen, if FGS starts acting independently and asserts its sovereignity. EU is broke and increasingly xenophobic, its not going to do anything to Somalia. It has stopped financing AU forces and Uncle Sam won’t pick up the bill.

I wasnt aware of this, when have they stopped funding troops ? Youre aware they also pay Somali soldiers right

Speaking of America, they have backed off a little bit of their crusade against Islam. Only thing they cared about is propping up Israel and weakening its neighbouring countries and Somalia is not on this.

Trump supported Egypt bombing the dam

Only way Somalia would be sanctioned by western countries is, if it could support arab countries in a meaningul way and thats not going to happen anytime soon. Even if possible, somalis could literally just refuse.

Are you forgetting where 60% of FGS's tiny annual budget comes

There is literally nothing stopping Somalia from pursuing its nationalistic interests. ICU was crushed because it was Islamically based organisation, that wanted to mold Somalia into more Islamically orientated direction. ICUs scope was big and ambitious, which the people of Somalia so badly don’t have now.

FGS was only accepted by Somalis because Al Shabab turned into an AQ proxy, most Somalis saw Shabab as the successor of the ICU before they started the Khawarij stuff like suicide bombings

If Shabab didn't exist FGS could either fix up or get overthrown in a few years, not in between like we have right now, the war against Shabab is the only thing keeping FGS safe from being overthrown, people are basically forced to swallow the FGS pill

There is nothing stopping from FGS from kicking out corruption, increasing taxation revenue, establishing discipline in the army and meritrocacy.

There is actually, for example since they dont control the whole country their authority is so weak and they cant tell mobile money companies to implement taxes nationwide cause it would clash with the clan states like PL and SL and the companies would have big problems with those governments

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

The political elite of Somalia still believe we live in 2007 and thus lack some fucking dhiig.

Nothing is going to happen, if FGS starts acting independently and asserts its sovereignity. EU is broke and increasingly xenophobic, its not going to do anything to Somalia. It has stopped financing AU forces and Uncle Sam won’t pick up the bill.

Speaking of America, they have backed off a little bit of their crusade against Islam. Only thing they cared about is propping up Israel and weakening its neighbouring countries and Somalia is not on this.

Only way Somalia would be sanctioned by western countries is, if it could support arab countries in a meaningul way and thats not going to happen anytime soon. Even if possible, somalis could literally just refuse.

There is literally nothing stopping Somalia from pursuing its nationalistic interests. ICU was crushed because it was Islamically based organisation, that wanted to mold Somalia into more Islamically orientated direction. ICUs scope was big and ambitious, which the people of Somalia so badly don’t have now.

America has slashed foreign aid, EU has already and the somali political elite have already taken notice of the fact, that their backers are slowly walking away from them. American officials have literally drawn up plans to contain Somalia, if AS takes over and thats likely because the FGS is just incompetent.


These somali political elite are defeated and there is no organisations or figures to replace them. Ilaahey amarkiis somaliweyn is achievable and gaalka cad wouldn’t lift a finger.

There is nothing stopping from FGS from kicking out corruption, increasing taxation revenue, establishing discipline in the army and meritrocacy. The private sector has done everything, somalis are resourceful people. FGS only job would be establishing safety and building roads and the economy would quadruple. At the same time FGS could kick out Ethiopias and other foreign troops from Somalia.

Somebody tell the somali political elite the white man doesn’t give a single fuxk what níqqers do, he is not going to stop you and he certainly doesn’t care if you squabble with your fellow negroes. Even if he shares the same faith as your opponent, these people do not put religion over skintone and have stopped being proper christians 60 years ago.

How can you assert sovereignty you don't have?
If Somalia tried to remove Ethiopia now, HSM would be removed from his seat lol as a threat to world peace.
As for attending the GERD opening? HSM is a guy who just never makes his real opinions clear until he can impose them. He will be submissive.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

That is an ambitous plan but one that will go beyond Abiy's term.

There's no elections he can be there for decades if he wants pretty sure

GERD alone isn't going to suddenly fix Ethiopia's economy and lift millions out of poverty. Its another expensive vanity project.

I just explained to you its not, the proof is literally right in front of you, electricity is a valuable resource countries can sell

France for example makes billions selling their excess energy to other countries and its a very important revenue stream for the country that has helped them clear lots of debt

 

[Barkhadle1520]

This is a big milestone for Ethiopia and Abiy Ahmed. It is a shame that we have been cursed with HSM, whose biggest “achievement” in five years is evicting the poor. The standards of our political elites are in hell.

The fact that people praise that tiny ass qatar charity road between afgoye and xamar shows how low the bar is set

 

[Barkhadle1520]

How can you assert sovereignty you don't have?
If Somalia tried to remove Ethiopia now, HSM would be removed from his seat lol as a threat to world peace.
As for attending the GERD opening? HSM is a guy who just never makes his real opinions clear until he can impose them. He will be submissive.

No one is suggesting Somalia attacking Ethiopia, especially when FGS barely controls the country

 

[Zak12]

There's no elections he can be there for decades if he wants pretty sure

We will see about that. No Ethiopian leader after Selassie has lasted for more than 17 years.

that has helped them clear lots of debt

At the end of the day, Eritrea has no reason to sweat this development. Saudi Arabia with their near infinite funds + western support couldn't even defeat the Houthis in Yemen. An invasion of Eritrea no matter how rich Ethiopia could be would be a nightmare to do.

All I'm saying is that there is nothing to really worry about this, Somalia/Eritrea will be fine. On the flip side, Somalis in Ethiopia may also benefit from the electricity.

 

[Midas]

Yeah I have no idea what the logic behind this is. Hsm isn't stupid either so its very strange he would go out of his ways to personally come there.


Although you guys shouldn't exaggerate the impact of the dam. One of the big reasons their probaly marketing this dam as way to sell power is becuase they dont have the grid infrastructure to distribute the electricity all over the country and they really need foriegn currency reserves.

 

[Beyle]

Somalis need to actually start shaming traitors , specially within their own qabil . Somali politicians need to fear being seen as a khaa’in , it has to be something that’ll be career ending for them like being a known gaal would be

 

[Midas]

The aswan dam for example built in the 60s was the biggest dam before the GERD and generated 2100 mw versus the 5100 MW of the GERD. But the eygptian one was built when eygpt had a pouplation of 30 million.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

We will see about that. No Ethiopian leader after Selassie has lasted for more than 17 years.

At the end of the day, Eritrea has no reason to sweat this development. Saudi Arabia with their near infinite funds + western support couldn't even defeat the Houthis in Yemen. An invasion of Eritrea no matter how rich Ethiopia could be would be a nightmare to do.

All I'm saying is that there is nothing to really worry about this, Somalia/Eritrea will be fine. On the flip side, Somalis in Ethiopia may also benefit from the electricity.

 

[Devilsadvocate]

The fact that people praise that tiny ass qatar charity road between afgoye and xamar shows how low the bar is set

Everything by the FGS is inorganic and surface-level. They chase small, cheap wins to sell an image but deliver no tangible results. A fake war on sh*baab, an e-visa that taxes citizens twice because of the lack of sovereignty, and now these upcoming 1P1V elections. The days of AID/handouts are slowly dwindling if they can’t deliver results now how will they handle the scarcity ahead?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

No one is suggesting Somalia attacking Ethiopia, especially when FGS barely controls the country

FGS asserting soveriengty means asking Ethiopia to leave.
Ethiopia wouldn't leave Somalia. The IC would support them staying.
FGS would just look stupid. Moves would be made to replace the president.
You have to physically enforce your soveriegnty. You need the means and the capacity otherwise endless and pointless talk.

Attending the GERD is just HSM behaviour. He plays nice until he doesn't have to as people have seen time and time again.

 

[Zak12]

What is there to dispute man, they aren't getting out of being landlocked anytime soon. Its a major stretch

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Everything by the FGS is inorganic and surface-level. They chase small, cheap wins to sell an image but deliver no tangible results. A fake war on sh*baab, an e-visa that taxes citizens twice because of the lack of sovereignty, and now these upcoming 1P1V elections.

You noticed how they're suddenly rushing all these new taxes at once after Trump got into office and announced aid would be cut, they had more than a decade to implement them

 

[Barkhadle1520]

FGS asserting soveriengty means asking Ethiopia to leave.
Ethiopia wouldn't leave Somalia. The IC would support them staying.
FGS would just look stupid. Moves would be made to replace the president.
You have to physically enforce your soveriegnty. You need the means and the capacity otherwise endless and pointless talk.

Attending the GERD is just HSM behaviour. He plays nice until he doesn't have to as people have seen time and time again.

And who allowed Ethiopia to stay ? They had two chances to at least replace Ethiopia by another country

 

[Barkhadle1520]

What is there to dispute man, they aren't getting out of being landlocked anytime soon. Its a major stretch

> Ethiopia doing years of preparation to invade Assab
> If Ethiopia doesnt get coast access in the following decades they're literally cooked
> Ethiopia is going to make billions in additional profits in the following years (to fund their war)

"Yeah its all good bro dont worry, they're not going to do anything"

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[Midas]

> Ethiopia doing years of preparation to invade Assab
> If Ethiopia doesnt get coast access in the following decades they're literally cooked
> Ethiopia is going to make billions in additional profits in the following years (to fund their war)

"Yeah its all good bro dont worry, they're not going to do anything"

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Im confused why you think these other east african countries will make themselves so heavily reliant on ethiopian electricity to the point ethiopia could use it as a political weapon ?