HSM At War With Parliamentary System

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Somalia power-sharing model was to ensure that the President of the SFG is head of state a ceremonial role only not head of government. A president/pm allows for separation of power so it cannot be concentrated, in theory this is the safest system. Now in practise their has been much political instability over the two post due to the constitution not being completed. Please Somalis do not fall for HSM attack on the parliamentary system on the grounds it has led to instability. The theory and the practical must not be confused. Something can be beautiful in theory but a nitemare in reality, this doesn't mean the theory is faulty.

We must find the reasons why in practice the parliamentary system has caused conflict and resolve that not abadon the system. Imagine people all abadoned Islam because in practise it has shown poor results in practise. Imagine ppl abadoned democracy because in practise most countries are weak or failed democracies. Imagine the UN abadoned human rights declaration on the grounds many countries do not abide by it. Do not let HSM fool you to think the parliamentary system is bad on the grounds of political instability. Let's fix the political instability by fixing the constitution and addressing areas that are un-clear or can lead to loopholes.

The president will compete in popular elections with other presidential candidates from different parties before the people only not president/vp american system. The president will then nominate a PM under 4.5 in consultation with that regions clan such as PL/JL or with GM/HS. When 4.5 is removed for direct elections and multi-party, each party will present their presidential candidates and will run on one man one vote poll system and the parliament will be shared on party results. If it's 51/49 system which will force coalitions or 'cod dheeri' where a minority party leading the party numbers can establish a government will be discussed. The PM will be nominated from the party that wins on cod-dheeri or from the party that they coalitioned with to secure a 51% majority.

The discussion on this system isn't for now due to security challenges and HSM is only bringing it up so he can dis-empower the Darod PM post in 4.5. Darod are fuleys to respond to his jambal like I would on TV, asking HSM to put his own office into a ceromonial capacity rather then interfere in other clan quota in 4.5. I would tell HSM, why is it your clan has the capital and one of the top 2 posts, why don't you concede the HAG post to Dir under Irir which wouldn't violate 4.5 since your 1 clan you both argue. Finally Dr Osman will tell the people, it's healthier for good governance when the PM/President represent different clans to the capital, the capital can play a social check n balance, but if hawiye is in those post, it won't lead to good governance.
 
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@The Midlands the Darods must fire back at HSM using my arguments, watch that coward go into check-mate when the 'af naareed' dr osman responds. I can't respond becuz of my family Isim position, but I will give a letter to our clan representative to fire back with venom
 

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@The Midlands U should argue for irir powersharing since it's one clan, hawadle could come thru and compete with dirs while hags told your the capital and their involvement in president/pm will not lead to good governance due to the social make up of the capital. Hags being isolated from president/pm and open to only non hag irir is in ur interest.
 

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@The Midlands the models of direct election and multi-party will be the following.

1. Parties only without disclosing who will be the leader. PPL will be forced to vote on idealogy cuz they don't know who will be chosen as party leader. I prefer this system similar to PL local election.

2. Presidential candidates from each party compete in multi-party system not 'VP' or 'PM'. The PM will be nominated from either the same party or coalition party, this will depend if the winner is decided on 'cod dheeri or the party that secures 51% which may need coalitions.
 
@The Midlands U should argue for irir powersharing since it's one clan, hawadle could come thru and compete with dirs while hags told your the capital and their involvement in president/pm will not lead to good governance due to the social make up of the capital. Hags being isolated from president/pm and open to only non hag irir is in ur interest.
How Hawiye, Dir and Isaaq and other Samaales are one clan? Its like saying Daarood, mehri, ugaaslaabe are one clan though the last two are tinny clans. Isaaq only claim Iririya when in conflict with Daarood also them and Dir have different DNA than Hawiye. As a Hawadle we are looking for a way to get out of Hawiye based on 4.5
 

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How Hawiye, Dir and Isaaq and other Samaales are one clan? Its like saying Daarood, mehri, ugaaslaabe are one clan though the last two are tinny clans. Isaaq only claim Iririya when in conflict with Daarood also them and Dir have different DNA than Hawiye. As a Hawadle we are looking for a way to get out of Hawiye based on 4.5

What I meant was by side-lining hawiye on the grounds of them having the capital and linking our argument that good governance needs president/pm to be different to the capital so it can lead to check n balance. We will sideline them on political 'wisdom'. Then we open up their current post to be competitive between non hag irir from dir or other samaales. Finally hawadle will be free
 

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@The Midlands ugaas-laabe are warsangeli but a woman from india was sent to the ugaas to marry and establish ties, that's the old world diplomacy. Ugaski bay 'laaabeen' or 'mixed'. @Tropical Breeze will know more about this. This is another route that Warsangeli can tap into to india.

Don't underestimate Mahra. They own east yemen and large chunks of oman and socotra. We have a very old pact of mutual survival with them. Their not strong in somalia just like darods are not strong in oman but we have mutual survival interest. If for some reason PL loses its land, we can re-base our war on socotra to get our land back, if thats taken, then oman/east yemen. Infact even indonesians pay homage to ismail jabarti in yemen, another opportunity to tap into.
 

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@The Midlands ugaas-laabe are warsangeli but a woman from india was sent to the ugaas to marry and establish ties, that's the old world diplomacy. Ugaski bay 'laaabeen' or 'mixed'. @Tropical Breeze will know more about this. This is another route that Warsangeli can tap into to india.

Don't underestimate Mahra. They own east yemen and large chunks of oman and socotra. We have a very old pact of mutual survival with them. Their not strong in somalia just like darods are not strong in oman but we have mutual survival interest. If for some reason PL loses its land, we can re-base our war on socotra to get our land back, if thats taken, then oman/east yemen. Infact even indonesians pay homage to ismail jabarti in yemen, another opportunity to tap into.
It was an inside joke that Ogayslabe are Indian people believed it and rolled with it genetically Ogayslabe are as Warsangeli as any other. We also do have relations with India alot of Indian traders used to sail to Laasqoray some of them settled in Laasqoray and become local.
 

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It was an inside joke that Ogayslabe are Indian people believed it and rolled with it genetically Ogayslabe are as Warsangeli as any other. We also do have relations with India alot of Indian traders used to sail to Laasqoray some of them settled in Laasqoray and become local.

A few warsangeli investors I know do alot of trade out of india, so meesha wax ba 'yaal' kkkkk
 

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@Tropical Breeze adaa la degtid idoor, but wats da deal with the sheikh isahaq garbage. They say sheikh isahak binu ahmed. Bal 'mee' ahmedki in arabia? we know were abdirahman darod iss and his father ismail jabarti.
 

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@Tropical Breeze arab is a tongue not a dna like somalis think. E-J both inhabit arabia equally. Infact one must be 'pure arab' and another arabized arab. They cant both be the same. I think the J are the pure arabs which E migrants came to and became arabized, it also reflects more logically that the 'hosting' arab population are majority J while the immigrants reflect a minority clad.
 

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@Tropical Breeze adaa la degtid idoor, but wats da deal with the sheikh isahaq garbage. They say sheikh isahak binu ahmed. Bal 'mee' ahmedki in arabia? we know were abdirahman darod iss and his father ismail jabarti.
They say he was born in Karbala but there isn't any known grave, Ismaaciil Jeberti grave is preserved in Zabid a town in Southern Yemen where people as far as Indonesia come to visit.
 

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They say he was born in Karbala but there isn't any known grave, Ismaaciil Jeberti grave is preserved in Zabid a town in Southern Yemen where people as far as Indonesia come to visit.

No trace of this Ahmed character can only mean Sheikh Isaaq is a 'wecel' from arabia or he wasn't no prominent sheikh as they would have tombs or their simply just dir
 

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They say he was born in Karbala but there isn't any known grave, Ismaaciil Jeberti grave is preserved in Zabid a town in Southern Yemen where people as far as Indonesia come to visit.

Will isaaq go to karbala and call every ahmed dude 'abbe' kkkkk, ceebey tacal. Not only do u need to know ur father name but his nickname to distinguish from other common shared names. Thats why we have nicknames in darod to distinguish shared names so does ismail jabarti
 

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