How Somalia collapsed and Ethiopia didn’t

[johnsepei5]

I have to give it to the Habeshi they have been through multiple civil wars and have not collapsed

we have only been through 1 civil war collapsed and still not recovered

 

[Zak12]

Ethiopia has collapsed multiple times. The difference however is that there is always a winner in their civil wars that take control of the country afterwards. No such case has happened in Somalia where every faction and leader couldn't overcome each other. The closest we had was Aideed and the ICU but we all know how that panned out.

 

[Kizaru]

The population was far too large for it to be allowed to collapse. The world didn't want 100 million Ethiopians at their door step so when things got to a near explosion, they forced them to cease their fighting and come to the table. A collapse would be feld across the entire African continent.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

The difference is we have Hawiye in Somalia unfortunately. Where the victorious Meles formed a Government after the ouster of Mengistu, now compare that to the Hawiyes who waged tribal wars after MSB fled. They first started fighting Darood then pointed their guns on each other. That's the honest truth

 

[Nin123]

I have to give it to the Habeshi they have been through multiple civil wars and have not collapsed

we have only been through 1 civil war collapsed and still not recovered

Ethiopia actually collapsed after Somalia did.

 

[Homerlilian]

The difference is we have Hawiye in Somalia unfortunately. Where the victorious Meles formed a Government after the ouster of Mengistu, now compare that to the Hawiyes who waged tribal wars after MSB fled. They first started fighting Darood then pointed their guns on each other. That's the honest truth

Enough with the hawiye hate . Hawiyes can’t catch a break wallahi . A new cooking every single day

The difference is we have Hawiye in Somalia unfortunately.

 

[Zob]

The difference is we have Hawiye in Somalia unfortunately. Where the victorious Meles formed a Government after the ouster of Mengistu, now compare that to the Hawiyes who waged tribal wars after MSB fled. They first started fighting Darood then pointed their guns on each other. That's the honest truth

 

[Aurelian]

Enough with the hawiye hate . Hawiyes can’t catch a break wallahi . A new cooking every single day

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SNM leaders at the beginning weren't pro independent, and waited for the southern factions to negotiate. But instead the aped so bad that SNM opted for Ictiraaf

 

[Nin123]

SNM leaders at the beginning weren't pro independent, and waited for the southern factions to negotiate. But instead the aped so bad that SNM opted for Ictiraaf

No they had war with each other called isaaq wars. It was between unionists and separatists and the former won the war.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Watch from 46:35 onward

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

It is important to note that the Abyssinian state did collapse in the 1760s and remained divided for 90 years.

 

[Yami]

The difference is we have Hawiye in Somalia unfortunately. Where the victorious Meles formed a Government after the ouster of Mengistu, now compare that to the Hawiyes who waged tribal wars after MSB fled. They first started fighting Darood then pointed their guns on each other. That's the honest truth

Brutal but the truth hurts. Caydiid & Cali Mahdi were walking curses on the Somali people.

Hypothetically if you swapped Hiraab degans with Harti the 90's chimp out would've never happened.

 

[berberaboy66]

No they had war with each other called isaaq wars. It was between unionists and separatists and the former won the war.

Kkkkk it was so funny. HA were getting xooged and then they unuka leh’d Berbera Port and that was that. My CG abti told me how they tried to do the same with Hargeisa Airport and it flopped

 

[Haragwaafi]

I have to give it to the Habeshi they have been through multiple civil wars and have not collapsed

we have only been through 1 civil war collapsed and still not recovered

Because Ethiopia is a nation entity an idea that wasn't newly constructed post colonialism it always existed

 

[Haragwaafi]

No they had war with each other called isaaq wars. It was between unionists and separatists and the former won the war.

The civil war wasn't about that ya hooyo mataalo kiddo

 

[Haragwaafi]

It is important to note that the Abyssinian state did collapse in the 1760s and remained divided for 90 years.

As a nation it existed as different warlords where fighting among themselves to rule all over Abyssinia with puppet Emperors

 

[Haragwaafi]

The population was far too large for it to be allowed to collapse. The world didn't want 100 million Ethiopians at their door step so when things got to a near explosion, they forced them to cease their fighting and come to the table. A collapse would be feld across the entire African continent.

Ethiopia can't fall nor will it cease to exist as long as Ethiopia as an idea is very ingrained in much of the people's mind including the Oromo who now got their turn to rule all over the nation after the Tigrayan woayona was removed from power in 2017