How should the Jeegan be dealt?

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

We have good allies in Waqooyi Galbeed(Borama, Buuhoodle, Wadani, our friends in Ceel Afweyn and Coldoon).
But the Jeegans have bcome ethiopianized. They act like hypocrites. They hate themselves whenever they look in the mirror, seeing their Somali faces.


Personaly i believe in military solution against the Jeegans post-Alshabab era.
Then to reward Coldoon or the top ally in North Somalia with presidency.

 

[Ras]

Or recognize their independence and be done with them.

They'll just end up sabotaging us from the inside.

Let's move on on good terms as long as we sign some treaties to prevent them from becoming foreign patsies.

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Or recognize their independence and be done with them.

They'll just end up sabotaging us from the inside.

Let's move on on good terms as long as we sign some treaties to prevent them from becoming foreign patsies.

Not gonna happen.
Only one condition, they will never accept and we will never accept anything else:
SSC and Awdal stays Somalia, Hargeisa Berbera and Burco can leave. Any annexation of these areas will lead to conflict.


I know they wont accept such condition, so blame falls on them.

Also the danger of letting one clan have "Republic" is that more clans will demand the same.

 

[Ras]

Not gonna happen.
Only one condition, they will never accept and we will never accept anything else:
SSC and Awdal stays Somalia, Hargeisa Berbera and Burco can leave. Any annexation of these areas will lead to conflict.


I know they wont accept such condition, so blame falls on them.

Also the danger of letting one clan have "Republic" is that more clans will demand the same.

Giving them SSC would be in our interests since a multiclan state would be more connected to us.

At the end of the say it's a messy region so fighting over it could take decades.

Best to let them have it and the harti there could lobby for a better relationship with Somalia.

I don't give too fucks about borders if you haven't already noticed from the above.

We can still visit them for business and they'd be unlikely to oppress Somali businesses since they would want to operate in the south as well.

A peaceful north is a richer north. More people would be willing to invest there and the SCC would get the bulk of the investments since they're the connecting tissue.

This is also to turn an enemy into one of our best allys in the region.

Landers are rational for the most parts and could be turned into pro somali if the above happened.

That'll be one less weakness for foreign countries to target us

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Giving them SSC would be in our interests since a multiclan state would be more connected to us.

At the end of the say it's a messy region so fighting over it could take decades.

Best to let them have it and the harti there could lobby for a better relationship with Somalia.

I don't give too fucks about borders if you haven't already noticed from the above.

We can still visit them for business and they'd be unlikely to oppress Somali businesses since they would want to operate in the south as well.

A peaceful north is a richer north. More people would be willing to invest there and the SCC would get the bulk of the investments since they're the connecting tissue.

This is also to turn an enemy into one of our best allys in the region.

Landers are rational for the most parts and could be turned into pro somali if the above happened.

That'll be one less weakness for foreign countries to target us

U believe in the easiest way.

I believe in the Vietcong way. Capturing Hargeisa and placing flag on top of the presidential place.

I believe in confrontation

 

[Ras]

U believe in the easiest way.

I believe in the Vietcong way. Capturing Hargeisa and placing flag on top of the presidential place.

I believe in confrontation

You plan to station soldiers there for eternity?

Who will pay for it if the Landers aren't willing to work to pay taxes to xamar?


The other alternative is to move the capital to the north and refocus our infrastructure investments there instead of Xamar.

Maybe that'll get them to concede to the FGS.

However I doubt southerners would be interested in giving away their prize.

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

You plan to station soldiers there for eternity?

Who will pay for it if the Landers aren't willing to work to pay taxes to xamar?


The other alternative is to move the capital to the north and refocus our infrastructure investments there instead of Xamar.

Maybe that'll get them to concede to the FGS.

However I doubt southerners would be interested in giving away their prize.

It doesnt matter how long it will take. Even until judgement day. Such price must be paid.


Letting one clan get away works like domino effect.

We cant have that

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

I can only accept a Somaliland that is proud in being Somali State.
Not Jeegans.

If u told me we are dealing with the likes such as Coldoon etc. I would have no objection to such ideal state.

But the Jeegans are Xabashi slaves who will give it away.

So my problem is Jeegans turning Sland into Xabashi province.

 

[Rush]

Giving them SSC would be in our interests since a multiclan state would be more connected to us.

At the end of the say it's a messy region so fighting over it could take decades.

Best to let them have it and the harti there could lobby for a better relationship with Somalia.

I don't give too fucks about borders if you haven't already noticed from the above.

We can still visit them for business and they'd be unlikely to oppress Somali businesses since they would want to operate in the south as well.

A peaceful north is a richer north. More people would be willing to invest there and the SCC would get the bulk of the investments since they're the connecting tissue.

This is also to turn an enemy into one of our best allys in the region.

Landers are rational for the most parts and could be turned into pro somali if the above happened.

That'll be one less weakness for foreign countries to target us

Great post, just if all Somalia folk were this rational.

Though it is important to stress, we landers are pro Somali, we are just anti-SomaliA politically. Just because Djibouti does not want to join Somalia does not make it anti-Somali.

Somaliland went into the union willingly, so they should have the right to leave willingly too. If that right was not granted what makes you think Djiboiti or NFD or Galbeed would join a union?

I think the best choice to end the matter is for a referendum to take place in Somaliland like Quebec. Whatever the majority chooses goes. This shit has been going for too long.

 

[Shaolin23]

Great post, just if all Somalia folk were this rational.

Though it is important to stress, we landers are pro Somali, we are just anti-SomaliA politically. Just because Djibouti does not want to join Somalia does not make it anti-Somali.

Somaliland went into the union willingly, so they should have the right to leave willingly too. If that right was not granted what makes you think Djiboiti or NFD or Galbeed would join a union?

I think the best choice to end the matter is for a referendum to take place in Somaliland like Quebec. Whatever the majority chooses goes. This shit has been going for too long.

Its irrational for a clan to separate from a country ethnic group i can understand. Landers are irrational the majority of landers don't want to seperate only the minority jeegaan because their lies feed their pockets SNM main mission from the begining wasn't only to overthrow Siad Barre but to also seperate Siad Barre was overthrown January 1991 SNM claimed independence May 1991 what was the excuse to call for independence in that short of a time did face the facts a percentage of Issaq are turncoats,unpatriotic and hate their fellow Somalis their only excuse is a long dead president and instability of Somalia even though there is a stable Somalia region right next to them

 

[bluebird]

who can somalia deal with, it’s a un state held together by a glue stick atm

 

[embarassing]

@RasCanjero the story behind the idea of secessionism was just to stop Somali "irredentism". Lol so instead of our lands being liberated they further break ours apart. No other country has allowed us self determination, we will not further disintegrate, only grow in the future inshaAllah.

Their plans wont work. Somalis dont actually gain anything by becoming small clan states, that much is common sense.

Beside all that, the international community would never allow it. The only reason things got this far is because there was a long civil war without any real govt, it'll take some time but secessionism and all the other issues we have will just fade as the state reinstates itself.

 

[Rush]

Its irrational for a clan to separate from a country ethnic group i can understand. Landers are irrational the majority of landers don't want to seperate only the minority jeegaan because their lies feed their pockets SNM main mission from the begining wasn't only to overthrow Siad Barre but to also seperate Siad Barre was overthrown January 1991 SNM claimed independence May 1991 what was the excuse to call for independence in that short of a time did face the facts a percentage of Issaq are turncoats,unpatriotic and hate their fellow Somalis their only excuse is a long dead president and instability of Somalia even though there is a stable Somalia region right next to them

If those favouring independence are in the minority, then Somalia should be pushing for a UN supervised referendum in Somaliland like Quebec. It would instantly end the calls for independence when the majority decide to remain in Somalia.

The fact Somalia isn’t calling for that is a sign that they are aware the vast majority favour full independence.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

Worry about al shabaab first before worrying about us you hutwo.

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Worry about al shabaab first before worrying about us you hutwo.

Post-Alshabab Koonfur comes out more battlehardened while u were having fight with Puntland & Buuhoodle

U are finished.

 

[Jiron]

Only dialogue can solve our issues, nothing more, nothing less. We have to put our differences aside and hear each other out.

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Only dialogue can solve our issues, nothing more, nothing less. We have to put our differences aside and hear each other out.

 

[Jiron]

do u agree with me @SomaliWadaniSoldier ? There's absolutely no reason why we can't sit down with each other like true siblings and just listen to one another. No egos, no anger, no fear etc, just brothers looking at things from all sides

 

[Tukraq]

Giving them SSC would be in our interests since a multiclan state would be more connected to us.

At the end of the say it's a messy region so fighting over it could take decades.

Best to let them have it and the harti there could lobby for a better relationship with Somalia.

I don't give too fucks about borders if you haven't already noticed from the above.

We can still visit them for business and they'd be unlikely to oppress Somali businesses since they would want to operate in the south as well.

A peaceful north is a richer north. More people would be willing to invest there and the SCC would get the bulk of the investments since they're the connecting tissue.

This is also to turn an enemy into one of our best allys in the region.

Landers are rational for the most parts and could be turned into pro somali if the above happened.

That'll be one less weakness for foreign countries to target us

Giving them ssc will just exactrabate the already ongoing war in the region, and it definantly won’t be connected to somalia, I don’t know what you mean by peace as the north will be in a gruesome war, it will also result in seccesions in the south

 

[Abdurahman_somali]

Worry about al shabaab first before worrying about us you hutwo.

You wasting your time with these Walanweyn, they are not capable to held a civilized discussion. The average IQ in Somalia is actually not higher than 50, but after the union with SL in 1960 it has risen to 68.