It's so easy to debunk her wallahi
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How Did Somaliland Get Independence And Join Somalia?
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It's so easy to debunk her wallahi
She mention points, but the new point who sucesser of Somalia, its remind of china debute. Who is true China, Tawian or China.
But Somaliland doesnt recongnize Somalia republic as part of Union and here she fail.
@killerxsmoke U don't need to know much about Somaliland but what your 'eyes' can show you.
1. 1960 they were sitting under trees, look at any picture of hargeisa prior to union and post Somalia who they benefited alot thru development. They were the 'burden' not Somalia when you see Mogadishu and Hargeisa in the 60s, clearly not 'equals'. They came to Mogadishu with 'dust' on their face according to my abgaal grandmother when we used to tell her they think 'mogadishu and hargeisa' were equals.
2. The British didn't see SL as a colony but an 'out post' for it's meat supply to 'ADEN' in Yemen their real colony, they were not worth the time/investment by the Brits who ruled them from 'aden'.
3. Their was 5 Separate in-direct outpost agreements with the British, which you can google yourself. Only Darawish didn't sign one. Makhir Kingdom was 'sacked by force' not thru 'will'.
4. SYL was created in 1941, way before Somaliland independence. They didn't bring any independence, more 'woke' history to appease their minority ass with lies.
5. The union was done by Abdillahi Issa and Egal cause they came with no 'condition' even according to them and then Blame Somalia for their ancestors fault.
@Tropical Breeze @Dharbash @Garaadka you can ask what I posted if it's inaccurate or not. Cause Dr Osman doesn't spread inaccuracies.
1. 1960 they were sitting under trees, look at any picture of hargeisa prior to union and post Somalia who they benefited alot thru development. They were the 'burden' not Somalia when you see Mogadishu and Hargeisa in the 60s, clearly not 'equals'. They came to Mogadishu with 'dust' on their face according to my abgaal grandmother when we used to tell her they think 'mogadishu and hargeisa' were equals.
2. The British didn't see SL as a colony but an 'out post' for it's meat supply to 'ADEN' in Yemen their real colony, they were not worth the time/investment by the Brits who ruled them from 'aden'.
3. Their was 5 Separate in-direct outpost agreements with the British, which you can google yourself. Only Darawish didn't sign one. Makhir Kingdom was 'sacked by force' not thru 'will'.
4. SYL was created in 1941, way before Somaliland independence. They didn't bring any independence, more 'woke' history to appease their minority ass with lies.
5. The union was done by Abdillahi Issa and Egal cause they came with no 'condition' even according to them and then Blame Somalia for their ancestors fault.
@Tropical Breeze @Dharbash @Garaadka you can ask what I posted if it's inaccurate or not. Cause Dr Osman doesn't spread inaccuracies.
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@killerxsmoke Somaliland is breaking international law by not recognizing Somalia border yet they want their border respected in return, no logic wallahi. What baffles me is they are being a negative force in Somalia while arguing they will be positive force for the region/continent/world if recognized? The brain is seriously lacking logic, maybe the khat killed their logic side of the brain. They also argue to respect their aspiration, but send BM21 into Sool not respecting their aspiration!!! their sick bro, even the world is shocked at these people stupidity. That's why I rarely discuss them.
If your being nothing but negative in Somalia, logic dictates you will be nothing but negative regionally or globally if recognized, after-all that's the only 'experience' you have.
I mean seriously, they can still work their 'secession' aspiration while recognizing Somalia border and playing a positive role in Somalia nation building and argue for their secession aspiration in return.
Even if a secession was agreed too, in order for it to be legitimate, the SFG will still conduct a referendum in all 5 states and demand at least 80% in favor vote in each 5 region. That means they need to secure 80% in sool, 80% in sanaag, 80% in togdher, 80% in awdal, 80% in waqoyi galbeed.
If your being nothing but negative in Somalia, logic dictates you will be nothing but negative regionally or globally if recognized, after-all that's the only 'experience' you have.
I mean seriously, they can still work their 'secession' aspiration while recognizing Somalia border and playing a positive role in Somalia nation building and argue for their secession aspiration in return.
Even if a secession was agreed too, in order for it to be legitimate, the SFG will still conduct a referendum in all 5 states and demand at least 80% in favor vote in each 5 region. That means they need to secure 80% in sool, 80% in sanaag, 80% in togdher, 80% in awdal, 80% in waqoyi galbeed.
@killerxsmoke I rarely discuss these people in Somaliland when I seen a number of Flaws in their politics and which none of them answer satisfactorily without 'insult or deflection'.
1. They were founded in violence and built their government thru violence, Like anything founded in violence, they will fall to violence. It's just a matter of 'when' not 'if' and it's matter of 'opportunity' and political exploitation.
2. They don't respect Somalia legal border but argue to respect theirs
3. They don't respect other union aspirations in the north but want their secession respected
4. They have been a negative force in Somalia and logic dictates if recognized will be a negative force globally, after-all that's what their experience is.
5. They lie about their colonial past in terms of different treaties, sacked kingdoms, null/void posture by Darawish. They lie about what hargeisa was like compared to Mogadishu, they were under 'trees', they were the burden in the union not equals and why they came with no condition becuz they didn't have anything to offer but dust on their face, plus when you see how much they benefited development wise post union. They lie about being the independence founder when SYL was created in 1941.
6. Their lies about 1988. They fought from civilian quarters putting their people in harms way, similar to tigray rebel group did to Abi Ahmed Govt and you saw how abi ahmed responded. Why is Siyad Barre held to a different standard?
Waryaa @killerxsmoke if I were you do not engage them, your engaging 'emotions' only and you can't debate emotion, I mean if someone tells you 'they FEEL like a millionaire and u see their bank balance is zero' no matter how much u debate or use reason to show other wise, he will always 'FEEL' like a millionaire or right. That's Somaliland in a nutshell.
1. They were founded in violence and built their government thru violence, Like anything founded in violence, they will fall to violence. It's just a matter of 'when' not 'if' and it's matter of 'opportunity' and political exploitation.
2. They don't respect Somalia legal border but argue to respect theirs
3. They don't respect other union aspirations in the north but want their secession respected
4. They have been a negative force in Somalia and logic dictates if recognized will be a negative force globally, after-all that's what their experience is.
5. They lie about their colonial past in terms of different treaties, sacked kingdoms, null/void posture by Darawish. They lie about what hargeisa was like compared to Mogadishu, they were under 'trees', they were the burden in the union not equals and why they came with no condition becuz they didn't have anything to offer but dust on their face, plus when you see how much they benefited development wise post union. They lie about being the independence founder when SYL was created in 1941.
6. Their lies about 1988. They fought from civilian quarters putting their people in harms way, similar to tigray rebel group did to Abi Ahmed Govt and you saw how abi ahmed responded. Why is Siyad Barre held to a different standard?
Waryaa @killerxsmoke if I were you do not engage them, your engaging 'emotions' only and you can't debate emotion, I mean if someone tells you 'they FEEL like a millionaire and u see their bank balance is zero' no matter how much u debate or use reason to show other wise, he will always 'FEEL' like a millionaire or right. That's Somaliland in a nutshell.
@killerxsmoke They don't bring their crap to Somalis politically, they run to white people because they know those white people are not fully 'aware' of all the 'facts' and only what landers tell them. If they came to Somalis, especially Puntites, they know they will leave humbled with big karbash on FACTS. That's why they say they HATE MAJERTENIYA.
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@killerxsmoke wallahi if u waste ur time debating emotion your going against Sun Tzu Art of War. Always evalute the effort u put into a war and vs the outcome being greater. Somaliland rushed their secession without balancing it on 'reason and intellect' as Abdillahi Yusuf Said, it's grounded in emotion and you can't discuss with people on emotion. If someone feels their millionaire no amount of logic or proof to show their bank balance will change that. That's SL secession in a nutshell it's based on emotion not intellect/reason.
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