How Atheism Leads To Nihilism

[AMusee]

 

[Username]

as an agnostic where do you get your happiness from?

Actually I am depressed a lot of the time, but I don't think it has anything to do with belief in God, just going through some shit recently.

I don't speak for any other agnostic person, where do I get happiness from? Idk maybe family?

 

[عبد الله]

Actually I am depressed a lot of the time, but I don't think it has anything to do with belief in God, just going through some shit recently.

I don't speak for any other agnostic person, where do I get happiness from? Idk maybe family?

ur not sure where you find happiness in?What happens when the family die out ? Just thinking about it makes me depressed for you

 

[AMusee]

Randomness God and the Universe

 

[AMusee]

Randomness God and the Universe

@Username could you listen to the video and share your thoughts on it.

 

[The Honored one]

But why are less religious countries more succesful and peaceful than very religious countries?

Cause theynloot and raid muslim countries also Us has one of the highest rates of rape

 

[Username]

What happens when the family die out ?

I don't know, I don't really want to think about that.

 

[عبد الله]

I don't know, I don't really want to think about that.

Yh I figured - bury ur head in the sand and wait for the inevitable

 

[Username]

Yh I figured - bury ur head in the sand and wait for the inevitable

Whatever

 

[عبد الله]

Whatever

when you see the ugly face and reality of the dunya, you will be faced with two options. Suicide or returning back to Allah. I hope you choose option 2 walaal

 

[Shimbiris]

Interesting video. One thing that caught my eye is that a lot of animals do actually follow some form of rudimentary morality that seems ingrained. Namely the "golden rule" which is do not do unto others what you would not have them do unto you.

ur not sure where you find happiness in?What happens when the family die out ? Just thinking about it makes me depressed for you

Religious belief like a belief in Islam or Christianity in and of itself is not a source of happiness. It's the sense of community and purpose and feeling you belong to something greater than yourself. Recent Hunter-Gatherers who were more animist than anything else literally couldn't wrap their heads around the idea of depression when people in the modern world would try to explain it to them and that's because their lifestyle ticked boxes like the following:

• Organic, species specific diet
• Regular sleep and exercise
• Strong social bonds (always around members of their band)
• Spiritualist beliefs and sense of purpose (Animist etc)
• Living out in nature

They did not commonly believe in Gods like Allah, as in "High-Gods" who judge and interfere with Human affairs, these sorts of belief systems were rare among HGs because their societies were not usually hierarchical which made it hard for them to conceive the universe in turn was run by some form of a hierarchy. It is in the case of agricultural (farmer & pastoral) societies where social hierarchy is commonplace where you start seeing High-Gods become highly common and, incidentally, higher incidences of diseases like depression.

Anyway, I find all these arguments silly. Find Allah in your heart and deep within and have faith, brother. You shouldn't need all these worldly things like arguments over "objective morality" and how it apparently doesn't exist without God to convince yourself. This life is a test, bowe. Don't fail it.

 

[عبد الله]

Religious belief like a belief in Islam or Christianity in and of itself is not a source of happiness. It's the sense of community and purpose and feeling you belong to something greater than yourself.

Islam is the source of happiness. If you place it on a community or a feeling then it's just temporarily happiness until that community ex-communicate you or that feeling goes away.

 

[Shimbiris]

Islam is the source of happiness. If you place it on a community or a feeling then it's just temporarily happiness until that community ex-communicate you or that feeling goes away.

Indeed. That's what is nice about religion. As long as you have faith, what it is mentally doing for you (a sense of purpose and belonging) cannot fade and you can hopefully persevere through almost anything. This does not disprove the idea that it is all in your head and not something real and tangible, though. Hence why I say you must simply have faith and stop wasting time on worldly arguments.

 

[HiraanBorn]

Interesting video. One thing that caught my eye is that a lot of animals do actually follow some form of rudimentary morality that seems ingrained. Namely the "golden rule" which is do not do unto others what you would not have them do unto you.



Religious belief like a belief in Islam or Christianity in and of itself is not a source of happiness. It's the sense of community and purpose and feeling you belong to something greater than yourself. Recent Hunter-Gatherers who were more animist than anything else literally couldn't wrap their heads around the idea of depression when people in the modern world would try to explain it to them and that's because their lifestyle ticked boxes like the following:

• Organic, species specific diet
• Regular sleep and exercise
• Strong social bonds (always around members of their band)
• Spiritualist beliefs and sense of purpose (Animist etc)
• Living out in nature

They did not commonly believe in Gods like Allah, as in "High-Gods" who judge and interfere with Human affairs, these sorts of belief systems were rare among HGs because their societies were not usually hierarchical which made it hard for them to conceive the universe in turn was run by some form of a hierarchy. It is in the case of agricultural (farmer & pastoral) societies where social hierarchy is commonplace where you start seeing High-Gods become highly common and, incidentally, higher incidences of diseases like depression.

Anyway, I find all these arguments silly. Find Allah in your heart and deep within and have faith, brother. You shouldn't need all these worldly things like arguments over "objective morality" and how it apparently doesn't exist without God to convince yourself. This life is a test, bowe. Don't fail it.

So you're saying that religion is likely a man-made phenomenon?

I used to also think like this but nowadays I tend to unhealthy repress these thoughts.

I do it for my own sanity you see

 

[Shimbiris]

So you're saying that religion is likely a man-made phenomenon?

No. Just that the Human sense of morality can be argued to not come from religion and that you don't necessarily need organized faith or belief in q monotheistic God to not be depressive if HG cultures are anything to go on. Whether or not religion is man-made based on that is up to the individual to decide. I personally don't like to think about it and find comfort in having faith in Allah and that's enough for me.