How are Reer Gedo being outmaneuvered by Reer Jubba?

[TheAnswer]

Don't change the subject now. You said "OG can't control Kismayo without Kenya" which is clearly false as I've shown you that we smashed Ethiopia + MX in 2008 without foreign support. If anything it is Kenya who stopped MX from being all out massacred in 2012 and 2013.

If Kenya left, you would be wiped out faster than you can say dhaanto

 

[diaby]

Even if Kenya leaves, what makes you think Madobe would lose Kismayo? As far as I am aware he has brought in his tribesman who surrendered to the Ethiopians in the ONLF deal and even if they are depicted as a fifth column, Ogaden are still part of Somalia, the Somali government and the parliament. You are telling me that Marehan will use the banner of Somalia to defeat other Somalis.

Madoobe doesn't need ONLF he has 10k battle-hardened Ras Kamboni troops + thousands more Ogaden soldiers inside the Kenyan army.

ONLF is too busy with Somali Galbeed besides Jubaland is in good hands.

 

[Qalbidhagax]

I personally never cared if Madoobe leaves or stays, or whether an OG politican controls Kismayo. I'd say maybe only about 25-30% of MXs are pathologically obsessed with Kismayo and the clan origin of who is in charge, while others are willing to go with whoever brings peace. I only turned against Madoobe when it became clear he was willing to put his position above Somalia's interests. Madoobe needs to come out with a strong statement renouncing Kenya's claims to Somalia's ocean territory, and denouncing individuals such as Aden Barre Duale who have called for Kenya to forcibly steal Somali territory. He has not done that. In fact, he along with throngs of ululating women just welcomed Duale to Kismayo yesterday. Blackie knows he's an illiterate stooge and he's playing the part well.

Madoobe is a state leader. It is the responsibility of SFG to take care of Somalia's Maritime boundaries without jeopardizing Jubaland. Failmaarjo doesn't see it Kenya vs. Somalia like his supporters try to claim. he sees it as a means of his clan ruling the breadbasket region of Somalia along with the paradise city of Kismayo.

 

[TheAnswer]

Madoobe is a state leader. It is the responsibility of SFG to take care of Somalia's Maritime boundaries without jeopardizing Jubaland. Failmaarjo doesn't see it Kenya vs. Somalia like his supporters try to claim. he sees it as a means of his clan ruling the breadbasket region of Somalia along with the paradise city of Kismayo.

The purpose of Kenya investing in and protecting an illiterate, widely disliked, clannish stooge like Blackie is so he can act like a political spoiler who weakens the state, a purpose that ultimately serves their brazen attempt to illegally re-draw Somalia's maritime boundaries in Kenya's favor just like they illegally were exporting millions of bags of charcoal through Kismayo through Blackie's help.

 

[diaby]

If Kenya left, you would be wiped out faster than you can say dhaanto

It's all good to talk on the net but where's your proof for that? As far as I know OG smoked MX 3 times since 2008.

1 - MX + Ethiopia smoked in Kismayo (2008)
2 - Hiraale slapped by Ras Kamboni (2012)
3 - Hiraale forced to retire after a fierce karbash by Madoobe's boys

Here's my track record, where's yours? I won't even bring up all the times OG stepped in to stop you from getting massacred by HG in Galguduud

 

[TheAnswer]

It's all good to talk on the net but where's your proof for that? As far as I know OG smoked MX 3 times since 2008.

1 - MX + Ethiopia smoked in Kismayo (2008)
2 - Hiraale slapped by Ras Kamboni (2012)
3 - Hiraale forced to retire after a fierce karbash by Madoobe's boys

Here's my track record, where's yours? I won't even bring up all the times OG stepped in to stop you from getting massacred by HG in Galguduud

Idioit, it's a basic fact. Even listen to Aden Barre Duale's speech. He literally told you we captured Kismayo for you.

 

[diaby]

Idioit, it's a basic fact. Even listen to Aden Barre Duale's speech. He literally told you we captured Kismayo for you.

You're obviously a diaspora kid with zero knowledge in these matters. Don't waste my time again sxb.

 

[Bobthebuilder]

I ain't holy, I do take part in tribal catfights 4 my own entertainment that doesn't make me qabilist

What a retard

 

[Qalbidhagax]

@Qalbidhagax this is a thread for grownups. See yourself out of it. I reported your comment.

Boons are soo emotional asf.

 

[TheAnswer]

You're obviously a diaspora kid with zero knowledge in these matters. Don't waste my time again sxb.

And you’re a FOB, with your lips planted firmly on your clan warlord’s ass, with zero appreciation for any broad geopolitical consideration. FOBs irritate me generally, but OG FOBs are by far the least bearable. Go do dhaanto for liyuu bolis

 

[Qalbidhagax]

Viva Habargidir the slayer of Dusamareb refugees

 

[TekNiKo]

Its very unfortunate brother, how can we fight a nation called Kenya who is bombing us everyday under pretext of AS, we are powerless to stop them. We are victims of well co-ordinated effort to wipe us out. We are the last clan standing between complete Kenyan subjugation and annexation of JL. If other Somalis just watch as this continues we shall perish. Your MJs would love this and are pushing for more Marehan deaths so save us the crocodile tears.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

I personally never cared if Madoobe leaves or stays, or whether an OG politican controls Kismayo. I'd say maybe only about 25-30% of MXs are pathologically obsessed with Kismayo and the clan origin of who is in charge, while others are willing to go with whoever brings peace. I only turned against Madoobe when it became clear he was willing to put his position above Somalia's interests. Madoobe needs to come out with a strong statement renouncing Kenya's claims to Somalia's ocean territory, and denouncing individuals such as Aden Barre Duale who have called for Kenya to forcibly steal Somali territory. He has not done that. In fact, he along with throngs of ululating women just welcomed Duale to Kismayo yesterday. Blackie knows he's an illiterate stooge and he's playing the part well.

ina cabdirashiid sharmarke, sheikh sharif and former resource minister cabdirashid who sold the ocean space for a few million must come out first to denounce it,

stop using the straw man, the sea was sold years before ahmed become a leader by xamar and FGS

why don you blame them? why don't you demand sheikh sharif to come out and denounce since he was the corrupt leader who gave it away for a bribe and his Prime minister halwa lover Ina sharmarke???

and your adeer gave away 4 ports to Ethiopia, why don't u denounce that marehan kid?

why isnt farmajo arresting those who walk around xamar who sold the ocean space?

who gave him rights to sell somalias 4 top ports to Ethiopia? what constitutions? for a quick buck,

dont throw rocks when yuo live in a glass hosue warya,

ahmed has never ever come out to support kenyans sea bribe from FGS xamar, show me evidence he supported them in a video or any other source?

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

They haven't outsmarted anyone. The situation in Kismayo is still very fluid.

OGs are in a bind: they cannot control Kismayo without Kenya, and Kenya is only in Kismayo so it can help itself to Somalia's ocean territory and other valuable resources. When OGs embrace low life figures such as Adan Barre Duale, who called upon Kenya to not wait for the court decision but to military seize the ocean territory, in what was a pathetic attempt to grovel and seek favor before his kikuyu masters, they are sending the signal that they are willing to put their own narrow political interests in Kismayo ahead of Somalia's broader strategic and economic interests. I don't think this will be a winning strategy for them.

MXs need to more aggressively depict OGs and Blackie as a fifth column. The battle in Kismayo needs to be seen in the context of the ocean court-case, and not in the context of the long and failed attempt of MXs to regain clan control of Kismayo.

where was kenya in 2006 when madoobe was the governor of kismayo?

 

[AarLibaax]

What a retard

Rich coming from a confirmed retard

 

[diaby]

And you’re a FOB, with your lips planted firmly on your clan warlord’s ass, with zero appreciation for any broad geopolitical consideration. FOBs irritate me generally, but OG FOBs are by far the least bearable. Go do dhaanto for liyuu bolis

Don't lose your mind sxb if you got a problem you can find me in London anytime i'll be happy to crush your twig arms

 

[nomand]

This is kenya trying to humiliate somalia by using their agent madoobe.

Madoobe neither has the wit nor the power to capture kismaayo in 2013 or even hold kismaayo today without kenya.

The title should say "kenya tries to manoeuvre somalia"

I am waiting the response somalia will give to kenya yet again breaching our airspace.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

This is Ogaden trying to humiliate Marexan by using their agent madoobe.

Madoobe neither has the wit nor the power to capture kismaayo in 2013 or even hold kismaayo today without Ogaden.

The title should say "Ogaden tries to manoeuvre Marexan"

I am waiting the response Marexan will give to kenya yet again breaching our airspace.

Fixed

 

[nine]

where was kenya in 2006 when madoobe was the governor of kismayo?View attachment 80313

Madobe was part of ICU captured Kismayo he was a "wadaad"

https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2006/Oct/wararka_maanta6-105.htm

Mayor and head of airport were Marehan

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Madobe was part of ICU captured Kismayo he was a "wadaad"

https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2006/Oct/wararka_maanta6-105.htm

Mayor and head of airport were Marehan

and? today the mayor of kismayo is harti.
he still had the highest authority in kismayo.