History: How Israel Sabotaged the Islamic Caliphate

Do you really think that if Israel didn't exist a caliphate would have happened? At the best maybe a pan Arab state would have happened.
 
Do you really think that if Israel didn't exist a caliphate would have happened? At the best maybe a pan Arab state would have happened.

It existed for over a thousand years, one of the main reason it was dissolved was due to Zionists through US/UK. The anomaly is it not existing in the last century. That is the point. It likely would have continued to exist. Every attempt since then has been put down through the same Zionists through their control of the west.
 
Last edited:

Emir of Zayla

𝕹𝖆𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖔𝖋 𝕻𝖔𝖊𝖙𝖘
Do you really think that if Israel didn't exist a caliphate would have happened? At the best maybe a pan Arab state would have happened.
That would’ve been nice too, it would probably be the strongest muslim country and could hold the title of caliph too.
 
That would’ve been nice too, it would probably be the strongest muslim country and could hold the title of caliph too.
Yeah it would have been nice but if a pan-arab state occured who will be the leader. Egypt was the one pushing pan-arab rhetoric and Saudi Arabia the custodian of the two holy city were absolutely against a pan-arab state
 

Khaemwaset

Djiboutian 🇩🇯 | 𐒖𐒆𐒄A𐒗𐒃 🇸🇴
VIP
Yeah it would have been nice but if a pan-arab state occured who will be the leader. Egypt was the one pushing pan-arab rhetoric and Saudi Arabia the custodian of the two holy city were absolutely against a pan-arab state
Why was Egypt such a proponent of Pan arabism but Saudi being against it?
 

Khaemwaset

Djiboutian 🇩🇯 | 𐒖𐒆𐒄A𐒗𐒃 🇸🇴
VIP
That would’ve been nice too, it would probably be the strongest muslim country and could hold the title of caliph too.
Does the caliphate have to rule the holy cities?
Say a future Islamic state ruling the Horn and Sudan takes Hejaz from the Saudis. Would this Cushitic state by considered a caliphate?
 
Why was Egypt such a proponent of Pan arabism but Saudi being against it?
Because king Faisal was an Islamist who wanted the Arabs to unite over islam and Gamal abdelnasser was a secular pan Arab who wanted the Arabs to unite on race. Also they had a huge disagreement over the Yemen civil war (1962-1970) they both sent their armies into yemen.
 

Khaemwaset

Djiboutian 🇩🇯 | 𐒖𐒆𐒄A𐒗𐒃 🇸🇴
VIP
Because king Faisal was an Islamist who wanted the Arabs to unite over islam and Gamal abdelnasser was a secular pan Arab who wanted the Arabs to unite on race. Also they had a huge disagreement over the Yemen civil war (1962-1970) they both sent their armies into yemen.
Based Faisal. If only his dynasty had the same ideals today.
EEWECZ2V7AL2FAX3CNRKUB4THA.jpg
 
Let's start with what we already have then. What is stopping countries with a 99% Muslim majority from allowing visa free movement between each other?

Ask yourself why don't they invest in each other? The Italians built successful industries (fruits, a big salt factory even a railway), what have our supposed bros invested? Why do territorial disputes and internal conflicts still persist? What makes our immigrants prefer non-muslim majority countries?

If these popular Europe\US-based YouTubers are somehow "experts" about the Ummah, then shouldn't they be at the forefront of offering practical solutions to the problems that afflict Muslims in the present?

Like calling out Pakistan's persistent corruption (judiciary, ghost schools, fake degrees) and its sale of fighter jets to Myanmar. Egypt, Somalia and Pak collectively receive billions annually in economic aid, so where does the money go to? Blame the Zionists. And why don't Indonesians or Moroccans send peacekeepers to Somalia? That we look out for each other is a myth.

Yet here we are believing that one day all our drawbacks will suddenly vanish, so at what point did these big brain YouTubers become our thought leaders? When they learnt to say exactly what we want to hear.

AAs have voted democrat like forever, but has it improved their condition? For those who have risen socially, is it due to favors or individual initiative? The unpleasant truth is change will happen only when we change and that no one is coming to save us anytime soon. Engaging in fantasy trips is just a psychological escape from realities we believe ourselves to be helpless towards.

For those wondering..
 
Last edited:
Let's start with what we already have then. What is stopping countries with a 99% Muslim majority from allowing visa free movement between each other?

Ask yourself why don't they invest in each other? The Italians built successful industries (fruits, a big salt factory even a railway), what have our supposed bros invested? Why do territorial disputes and internal conflicts still persist? What makes our immigrants prefer non-muslim majority countries?

If these popular Europe\US-based YouTubers are somehow "experts" about the Ummah, then shouldn't they be at the forefront of offering practical solutions to the problems that afflict Muslims in the present?

Like calling out Pakistan's persistent corruption (judiciary, ghost schools, fake degrees) and its sale of fighter jets to Myanmar. Egypt, Somalia and Pak collectively receive billions annually in economic aid, so where does the money go to? Blame the Zionists. And why does the UAE among others interfere in other people's affairs?

Yet here we are believing that one day all this will suddenly vanish, so at what point did these big brain YouTubers become our thought leaders? When they learnt to say exactly what we want to hear.

AAs have voted democrat like forever, but has it improved their condition? For those who have risen socially, is it due to favors or individual initiative? The unpleasant truth is change will happen only when we change and that no one is coming to save us anytime soon. Engaging in fantasy trips is just a psychological escape from realities we believe ourselves to be helpless towards.

For those wondering..

Muslim "countries" are not sovereign.

They were created by the Zionist West and that is who picks and props up its leaders, the most corrupt people. That is what happened when the caliphate was conquered and dismantled. Muslims are suppressed.


قَالَتْ إِنَّ ٱلْمُلُوكَ إِذَا دَخَلُوا۟ قَرْيَةً أَفْسَدُوهَا وَجَعَلُوٓا۟ أَعِزَّةَ أَهْلِهَآ أَذِلَّةًۭ ۖ وَكَذَٰلِكَ يَفْعَلُونَ ٣٤

"She said: "Verily kings, when they enter a town (country), they despoil it and make the most honourable amongst its people the lowest. And thus they do." 27:34

The concept is mentioned in the Quran. When a people are conquered the conquerers suppress the good and noble among them and degrade them and prop up the worst of people as its (puppet) leaders. That is where we are.

Once the Muslim world regains sovereignty the Khilafa would be reinstated by the people.
 
Top