Historically weak xabashi army - How somalis conquered most of Ethiopia

[SOMALI GENERAL]

When plan A fails, masterminds have a Plan B method prepared as backup. War is not all about foot work, it's also about the mind/intelligence; Ethiopians are great diplomats/strategists and you can't deny the significance of those abilities. It's a skill...and it led to a W at the end of the day.

Yes you may have begged your allies to join the war on your side, but on a one vs one basis, Somalia would blitzkrieg through ethiopia...


You guys better be ready for next round when we're done with the bantu problem.

 

[Lord Flacko]

When plan A fails, masterminds have a Plan B method prepared as backup. War is not all about foot work, it's also about the mind/intelligence; Ethiopians are also good diplomats/strategists and you can't deny the significance of those abilities. It's a skill...and it led to a W at the end of the day.

I would agree if the Ethiopians had actually done what you're saying.

After you pleaded heavily for US support and didn't get it, you went and pleaded the Soviets.

First you got extra aid, and you had the largest standing army in Sub Saharan Africa. The largest. But you still couldn't defeat the Somali Army.

You went and pleaded the Soviets for more support, and due to the Cold War, they decided to give you both Cuban and Russian troops to help you out. This was because they felt Somalia was too close to Washington.


Ethiopia didn't have some grand plan. You didn't anticipate shit. You were bad fighters, bad strategists that lucked out on Soviet support. If you really were good strategists you wouldn't need foreign troops to defeat a smaller army with a smaller budget and with less international aid. Don't delude yourself.


Begging others to help you out isn't strategy. Strategy is capturing the Ogaden plus more from a larger more powerful army.

 

[horumar]

Yes you may have begged your allies to join the war on your side, but on a one on one basis, Somalia would blitzkrieg through ethiopia...


You guys better be ready for next round when we're done with the bantu problem.

Rivalry is one thing, racism is another. Somali bantu are somali, they are not a problem and deserve to live and work freely in Somali lands.

 

[Bahal]

When plan A fails, masterminds have a Plan B method prepared as backup. War is not all about foot work, it's also about the mind/intelligence; Ethiopians are great diplomats/strategists and you can't deny the significance of those abilities. It's a skill...and it led to a W at the end of the day.

It was less diplomacy and more Soviet scheming. The Derg were literal Marxists while the Somalis were Marxist in name only, they had a much larger population, and gave the Soviets the American Kagnew station.

Unfortunately, America was led by the weak Carter administration that seemed petrified by the Soviets after the Vietnam fiasco. Had it been a few years later under the Reagen admin, it would've been a totally different story.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Rivalry is one thing, racism is another. Somali bantu are somali, they are not a problem and deserve to live and work freely in Somali lands.

Call it what you want, but i don't want Kenya to annex Konfuur Somali crimea style, since they may use the plight of their bantu brethren who'll make up the majority in a couple of decades as an excuse to annex our land.

 

[TooMacaan]

Yes you may have begged your allies to join the war on your side, but on a one vs one basis, Somalia would blitzkrieg through ethiopia...


You guys better be ready for next round when we're done with the bantu problem.

Lol, the most significant wars in the world were fought with allies. Alliances make or break wars. It's only when Ethiopia uses allies that it's being called "begging"...?? Alliances are about common objectives by the way...no country is going to send their own people to die for the cause/battle of others if there isn't also something in it for them too.

 

[TheWeekday]

I would agree if the Ethiopians had actually done what you're saying.

After you pleaded heavily for US support and didn't get it, you went and pleaded the Soviets.

First you got extra aid, and you had the largest standing army in Sub Saharan Africa. The largest. But you still couldn't defeat the Somali Army.



Ethiopia didn't have some grand plan. You didn't anticipate shit. You were bad fighters, bad strategists that lucked out on Soviet support. If you really were good strategists you wouldn't need foreign troops to defeat a smaller army with a smaller budget and with less international aid. Don't delude yourself.


Begging others to help you out isn't strategy. Strategy is capturing the Ogaden plus more from a larger more powerful army.

LOOL you do realize there was a civil war against Mengistu when Afweyne invaded Somali Galbeed right?

Barre was a low iq baboon.Nigga couldn't understand the basics of international geopolitics and international law

 

[TooMacaan]

It was less diplomacy and more Soviet scheming. The Derg were literal Marxists while the Somalis were Marxist in name only, they had a much larger population, and gave the Soviets the American Kagnew station.

Unfortunately, America was led by the weak Carter administration that seemed petrified by the Soviets after the Vietnam fiasco. Had it been a few years later under the Reagen admin, it would've been a totally different story.

Of course there is a little bit of luck in there too but that goes for any war/event in history. I completely disagree about the Derg being Marxists, they began that way but they turned out to be deceivers like most communist governments. As to the rest of your post, I'll just quote my response to a previous poster: "Alliances are about common objectives by the way...no country is going to send their own people to die for the cause/battle of others if there isn't also something in it for them too." If Ethiopia can make itself strategically appealing to the Soviets, that still says something (because Somalia could've done the same). Either way, it goes further than that because Ethiopia had been allies with the U.S. and many other superpowers since the days of Menelik.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Lol, the most significant wars in the world were fought with allies. Alliances make or break wars. It's only when Ethiopia uses allies that it's being called "begging"...?? Alliances are about common objectives by the way...no country is going to send their own people to die for the cause/battle of others if there isn't also something in it for them too.

True, but as @Bahal said, it wasn't really an alliance. Soviet union were the ones who were scheming & they used you guys as a tool to prevent Somali hegemony in the HOA & east africa. So you guys got lucky by recieving military backing from commies...


BTW, do you support the Ethiopian occupation of Somali galbeed(western Somali)?

 

[gurey]

forget hundred years ago. Even in 2006 war they needed help from fellow christians. There is an interview with meles zanawi when al jazeera journalist asks him how many ethios died in Somalia and he refuses to answer. The journalist then says to meles you ran with your tail between your legs. Fact is Ethiopian army was taking huge losses against normal men with aks and technical vehicles.

Ethiopia has another advantage in that they have 70million ppl they will never feed and clothe. Therefor sending them to their deaths for them is actually a win.

They never was a match for us.

 

[Lord Flacko]

LOOL you do realize there was a civil war against Mengistu when Afweyne invaded Somali Galbeed right?

Barre was a low iq baboon.Nigga couldn't understand the basics of international geopolitics and international law

Barre was intelligent. You have to separate your cuqdad and emotions from historical debates. And note, intelligence isn't really subjective, though smart/stupid can be.


And the "Ethiopian Civil War" was only during the time of the invasion a small protest. The Ethiopian regime did nothing about it until years after the war. It had no effect.

 

[TheWeekday]

Barre was very intelligent kulaha

Nigga did not even finish highschool

 

[Lord Flacko]

Lol, the most significant wars in the world were fought with allies. Alliances make or break wars. It's only when Ethiopia uses allies that it's being called "begging"...?? Alliances are about common objectives by the way...no country is going to send their own people to die for the cause/battle of others if there isn't also something in it for them too.

If you had fought from the get go with foreign support it wouldn't be begging. But when you have to get support after being crushed, you are a desperate beg. And Ethiopia was really fucking desperate, you can't deny that. You begged because if not you wouldn't survive. That's the truth.

 

[Prince Abubu]

There's no debate. Ethiopia has only ever had one Ace in the hole - Christianity. That's gotten you out of a pinch quite a few times.

Unfortunately for Somalis, as Muslims, our only Allies are Turkey (very secular for most of modern history) and fat hermaphrodite Arabs, who lack a spine.

 

[ሕጊ።።]

I want to @ that xaarbashi nikka, but I can't spell his name

My username is coming in handy I see

 

[gurey]

@TooMa'aan why does Ethiopia consistently need outside support against somalis with inferior weapons and numbers?

 

[horumar]

My username is coming in handy I see

Your name is xagi?

 

[ሕጊ።።]

Your name is xagi?

Xïgi

 

[Lord Flacko]

Only smart thing Ethiopia has done is discovering that Somalis have clans

 

[horumar]

Xïgi

What does it mean?