Hirshabelle

[convincation]

I dunno why but I seem to know much more about the politics of places like SL and JL than my own state. I know there’s a lot of smart, educated people on this forum so someone please tell me what is going on in hirshabelle in terms of how far it’s getting or how well/bad it’s performing

 

[Nafiso Qalanjo]

Why don't you just do your own research instead of expecting to be spoon fed by information from strangers online? Someone can easily tell you something false information.

 

[convincation]

Why don't you just do your own research instead of expecting to be spoon fed by information? Someone can tell you something false information.

I dunno which websites to go on and I’ll just confirm what I get by searching it up. Plus my somali reading skills are horrible I’ll just end up getting bored halfway through if it’s in somali which it most likely will be

 

[Galmudug-State]

Are you Xawaadle?

 

[convincation]

Are you Xawaadle?

Abgaal. We are the majority in the state excluding hiran tho right?

 

[Galmudug-State]

Abgaal. We are the majority in the state excluding hiran tho right?

You should be more concerned about creating Benedir state. Why you so dumb bro?

 

[convincation]

You should be more concerned about creating Benedir state. Why you so dumb bro?

Wdym? Like I said I have no clue in all this. Banadir is already a state tho....

 

[Galmudug-State]

Wdym? Like I said I have no clue in all this. Banadir is already a state tho....

How is Benedir a state when you have Gedo Farmajoo collecting and wasting Mogadishu tax.
I think your a Gedo Buun trying to stir beef between the brotherly Xawaadle and Abgaal people

 

[convincation]

How is Benedir a state when you have Gedo Farmajoo collecting and wasting Mogadishu tax.
I think your a Gedo Buun trying to stir beef between the brotherly Xawaadle and Abgaal people

Why are you fully coming for me I’m just tryna get some info on my state like damnn. And how did I stir beef I didn’t even mention xawadle you did plus I know nothing about them other than their hawiye and live in beledweyne how would I hate them

 

[Galmudug-State]

Why are you fully coming for me I’m just tryna get some info on my state like damnn. And how did I stir beef I didn’t even mention xawadle you did plus I know nothing about them other than their hawiye and live in beledweyne how would I hate them

Look son. Forget about Hiirshebelle. Lets talk about Benedir state.

 

[convincation]

Look son. Forget about Hiirshebelle. Lets talk about Benedir state.

Hirshabelle is much more valuable than benadiri tho. As a capital of all somalis it’s very unlikely for us to have complete sovereignty over the city so I wanna focus on hirshabelle let the central government control benadir I wanna know how hirshabelle is doing

 

[Jiron]

Hiirshebelle is a great state that is going through problems right now, from what I hear, several clans do not see eye to eye on power sharing and resorted to arming themselves. I hope it never results in people dying for something that can easily be solved. I have faith that peace will prevail and power sharing agreement will be reached.

 

[convincation]

Hiirshebelle is a great state that is going through problems right now, from what I hear, several clans do not see eye to eye on power sharing and resorted to arming themselves. I hope it never results in people dying for something that can easily be solved. I have faith that peace will prevail and power sharing agreement will be reached.

Which clans don’t see eye to eye?

 

[GemState]

Hirshabelle has good potential as a Federal state. Hiraan and Middle Shabelle both have good farmland and 2 of Somalia's bigger cities in Jowhar and Beledweyne.

The clans there need to settle on a powersharing agreement then focus on getting rid of Shabaab who are hiding out in the countryside.

 

[Karim]

Hirshabele consists of two regions of Middle Shabelle and Hiiran. Hawadle and Abgaal are obviously the majority in the state and there was a power sharing agreement in 2016 signed by both parties. The agreement was that Hawadle would take the presidency and Abgaal the capital. Hawadle became restless with the power sharing agreement as their weak presidents couldn't get anything done in Jowhar. They demanded the capital to be transferred to Beledweyne completely violating the power sharing agreements they themselves have signed. The current FGS government took the opportunity and sacked the Hawadle president Mr Waare, changed the capital from Jowhar to Beledweyne and placed a puppet Abgaal president on the throne.

Hawadle are renowned politically naive flipflops, they armed themselves days after their fat boy president was sacked. They formed a new armed faction called Hiran Liberation Front and declared to have seized Beledweyne (their own town).

 

[convincation]

Hirshabele consists of two regions of Middle Shabelle and Hiiran. Hawadle and Abgaal are obviously the majority in the state and there was a power sharing agreement in 2016 signed by both parties. The agreement was that Hawadle would take the presidency and Abgaal the capital. Hawadle became restless with the power sharing agreement as their weak presidents couldn't get anything done in Jowhar. They demanded the capital to be transferred to Beledweyne completely violating the power sharing agreements they themselves have signed. The current FGS government took the opportunity and sacked the Hawadle president Mr Waare, changed the capital from Jowhar to Beledweyne and placed a puppet Abgaal president on the throne.

Hawadle are renowned politically naive flipflops, they armed themselves days after their fat boy president was sacked. They formed a new armed faction called Hiran Liberation Front and declared to have seized Beledweyne (their own town).

Wow I had no clue about this when did this happen? And is the current capital back to jowhar or in beledweyne now

 

[convincation]

Hirshabelle has good potential as a Federal state. Hiraan and Middle Shabelle both have good farmland and 2 of Somalia's bigger cities in Jowhar and Beledweyne.

The clans there need to settle on a powersharing agreement then focus on getting rid of Shabaab who are hiding out in the countryside.

How acutive are shabab in the area? As in so they have any real power in the area

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

I dunno why but I seem to know much more about the politics of places like SL and JL than my own state. I know there’s a lot of smart, educated people on this forum so someone please tell me what is going on in hirshabelle in terms of how far it’s getting or how well/bad it’s performing

So its simple Fahad Yasin is trying to make Xawadle irrelevant in Hirshabele.

He first brought an Abaal president.
Then he will ise other clans in hiraan and ensure Xawadle gets a small pie to eat.

 

[Karim]

Wow I had no clue about this when did this happen? And is the current capital back to jowhar or in beledweyne now

Actually thousands of residents in Beledweyne town have held demonstrations against newly formed Hirshabeelle administration and deployment of federal forces. The epicenter of Hawadle resistance is small village called Elgal, Hawadle have amassed their troops in that town and the situation could escalate at any moment. Ali Guudlawe, the new Hirshabele president was scheduled to visit Beledweyne today but reports say it's cancelled.

Ali Guudlawe is in Jowhar but according to the new power sharing agreement, Beledweyne is technically the capital of Hirshabelle.

How acutive are shabab in the area? As in so they have any real power in the area

Al Shabaab have revived operations carried out at urban centres in Hiiran over the past couple of months, they recently killed a famous security chief by the name of Bilig-Bilig in Beledweyne and they also carried out major attacks on AMISOM compounds in Buuloburde, second largest town in Hiiran.

 

[convincation]

So its simple Fahad Yasin is trying to make Xawadle irrelevant in Hirshabele.

He first brought an Abaal president.
Then he will ise other clans in hiraan and ensure Xawadle gets a small pie to eat.

What’s faysal yasins qabil?