Hassan Sheikhs new war on the other Xamar politicians and the beginning of a new UPD dictatorship

[The Midlands]

I see the beginning of a new UPD dictatorship with the lifting of the arms embargo next year and a new 30k soldiers in two years. Hassan Sheikh term ends 2027 but having control over Xamar means he is not going soon and the potential coalition with SL that will protect a possible agreement with him including a 10 years referendum in order to implement it they will support him stay 10 years

Sharif, Kheyre all will be disarmed in Xamar.

These are 3000 new forces for Caasimada with monthly salary of $500

 

[Starswarz1]

To be honest both Shariif and Kheire are harmless and irrelevant, as we all know that Shariifs strength lies in North Mogadishu while Kheires strength lies in the rural area of Mogadishu Dayniile and that shows that none of them are an real contender inside Mogadishu let alone be an proper rival to President HSM.

President HSM can easily rule forever uncontested so long he keeps those audacious HGs under his sphere of control.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I see the beginning of a new UPD dictatorship with the lifting of the arms embargo next year and a new 30k soldiers in two years. Hassan Sheikh term ends 2027 but having control over Xamar means he is not going soon and the potential coalition with SL that will protect a possible agreement with him including a 10 years referendum in order to implement it they will support him stay 10 years

Sharif, Kheyre all will be disarmed in Xamar.

These are 3000 new forces for Caasimada with monthly salary of $500
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I like your passion for hawadle interest but bro don't be silly, HSM isn't the state, we are constitutional federal state, run by LAWS not by PPL. If HSM ever cuts a deal that is unconstitutional with SL, this will lead to the immediate collapse of somalia as PL will pursue immediate carving it's own constitutional borders same with JL. That's why leaders need to work within the constitution. Study state craft bro not 5 sano dano shaksi leaders, state craft will tell u your 'future'

 

[Starswarz1]

I like your passion for hawadle interest but bro don't be silly, HSM isn't the state, we are constitutional federal state, run by LAWS not by PPL. If HSM ever cuts a deal that is unconstitutional, this will lead to the immediate collapse of somalia as PL will pursue immediate carving it's own constitutional borders same with JL. That's why leaders need to follow the constitution.

You live in delusions, so far all the laws that Puntland refused signing has been signed into law by the SFG and the Parliament, the latest being the fishery law.

The days of puntland being an spoiler to Somalia's progression is long gone, and Somalia will go on with or without their tantrums.

puntland is a weak puppy without teeth, all bark and no bite.

 

[Abdisamad]

You live in delusions, so far all the laws that Puntland refused signing has been signed into law by the SFG and the Parliament, the latest being the fishery law.

The days of puntland being an spoiler to Somalia's progression is long gone, and Somalia will go on with or without their tantrums.

puntland is a weak puppy without teeth, all bark and no bite.

Advocating for dictatorship is not similar to progression, being held accountable as the countries president is not being a spoiler..

 

[bidenkulaha]

HSM is too old for a dictatorship lol. I can envisage him extending to 2027 when this constitution review changes term to 5 years. And then winning a 1m1v election as he’ll be very popular should be defeat Shabaab and take us to the first poll ever. That gives him till 2032

UPD will split post HSM unless HSM appoints a successor in his second term and steps down for them

 

[Waamoking]

You live in delusions, so far all the laws that Puntland refused signing has been signed into law by the SFG and the Parliament, the latest being the fishery law.

The days of puntland being an spoiler to Somalia's progression is long gone, and Somalia will go on with or without their tantrums.

puntland is a weak puppy without teeth, all bark and no bite.

Farmaajo did the same thing and signed multiple laws without any FMS input lol that won’t change things at all

 

[The Midlands]

I like your passion for hawadle interest but bro don't be silly, HSM isn't the state, we are constitutional federal state, run by LAWS not by PPL. If HSM ever cuts a deal that is unconstitutional with SL, this will lead to the immediate collapse of somalia as PL will pursue immediate carving it's own constitutional borders same with JL. That's why leaders need to work within the constitution. Study state craft bro not 5 sano dano shaksi leaders, state craft will tell u your 'future'

to be honest next president is Hiraab 100% he could be even HG if not Hassan Sheikh they want him to tanaazul for Roooble or Guuleed and PL will back another Hawiye like 1960 because Daarood cabdidate have no chance in such Irir Majority coalition this is not like 1960 this is 4.5 based parliament that gives Dhulbahante and Ciise the same number.

Forget about Xamar better to focus on you regions.

 

[Starswarz1]

HSM is too old for a dictatorship lol. I can envisage him extending to 2027 when this constitution review changes term to 5 years. And then winning a 1m1v election as he’ll be very popular should be defeat Shabaab and take us to the first poll ever.

UPD will split post HSM unless HSM appoints a successor in his second term and steps down for them

He meant an party dictatorship and not an individual one.

 

[bidenkulaha]

He meant an party dictatorship and not an individual one.

Yes hence why I said I don’t see it because UPD will fracture post HSM.

 

[bidenkulaha]

I like your passion for hawadle interest but bro don't be silly, HSM isn't the state, we are constitutional federal state, run by LAWS not by PPL. If HSM ever cuts a deal that is unconstitutional with SL, this will lead to the immediate collapse of somalia as PL will pursue immediate carving it's own constitutional borders same with JL. That's why leaders need to work within the constitution. Study state craft bro not 5 sano dano shaksi leaders, state craft will tell u your 'future'

Any deal with SL will be between Somalia and Somaliland. FMS’s will have little say.

Secondly the days of including JL in your PL opposition is over. PL is on its own right now and isolated. Let’s see how Deni reacts to the FGS completing the constitution and changing the election model. If he can’t stop it even after declaring independence and fails to get the IC to support him then PL’s mucaarad is no longer relevant

 

[DR OSMAN]

You live in delusions, so far all the laws that Puntland refused signing has been signed into law by the SFG and the Parliament, the latest being the fishery law.

The days of puntland being an spoiler to Somalia's progression is long gone, and Somalia will go on with or without their tantrums.

puntland is a weak puppy without teeth, all bark and no bite.

Discuss state craft not some clown who runs day to day affairs of the govt and leaves. There is many types of states.

1. Dictator where all the state organs(constitution, court, parliament, govt) report to him. We don't have that system.

2. Constitutional republics(unitary, federal, confederalist). The organs of the state are based on laws not people, some are unitary, some federal, some confederation. But it's the rule of laws that is the power not any person. A leader is irrelevant in this system. We opted for 'federal' structure.

3. Constitutional Monarchy where the pre-existing sultanates or kingdoms have reserve powers to save, dismiss, negiotate, recognize each government as a whole, they don't get involved in day to day state work(parliament, govt, courts, etc).

4. Kingdoms. This is a mix where some have state structures(parliament, govt, courts) while others don't and is highly centralized to the KING.

5. Theocracies

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Starswarz1 their no 'abbo' messiah coming get in ur head, it won't happen, no president has reserve power to do much other then run day to day affairs, this is the system we have.

 

[Starswarz1]

Any deal with SL will be between Somalia and Somaliland. FMS’s will have little say.

Secondly the days of including JL in your PL opposition is over. PL is on its own right now and isolated. Let’s see how Deni reacts to the FGS completing the constitution and changing the election model. If he can’t stop it even after declaring independence and fails to get the IC to support him then PL’s mucaarad is no longer relevant

Kkk he tries to include jubaland in his puntlands tantrums when we all saw how jubaland so easily and consistently signed all laws and agreements SFG wanted from them, like their Kismaayo airport, port finances, and courts all coming under Mogadishu.

Puntland is on her own with her daily tantrums.

 

[DR OSMAN]

to be honest next president is Hiraab 100% he could be even HG if not Hassan Sheikh they want him to tanaazul for Roooble or Guuleed and PL will back another Hawiye like 1960 because Daarood cabdidate have no chance in such Irir Majority coalition this is not like 1960 this is 4.5 based parliament that gives Dhulbahante and Ciise the same number.

Forget about Xamar better to focus on you regions.

Bro we don't care who rules becuz they only have day to day affairs power, that's why we don't care who wins or loses in SFG cuz its ceremonial govt with limited powers, but f*ck with constitution then u will see 'awoodeena'

 

[bidenkulaha]

Farmaajo did the same thing and signed multiple laws without any FMS input lol that won’t change things at all

Farmaajo only signed like 5 laws that got royal consent. He barely could get anything past Upper House (Abdi Hashi).

 

[The Midlands]

HSM is too old for a dictatorship lol. I can envisage him extending to 2027 when this constitution review changes term to 5 years. And then winning a 1m1v election as he’ll be very popular should be defeat Shabaab and take us to the first poll ever. That gives him till 2032

UPD will split post HSM unless HSM appoints a successor in his second term and steps down for them

Not the typical dictatorships there will be freedom and so on i mean when it comes to power and dictating things. If Muuse Biixi dictates in SL and Deni PL to the point of using the army against his speaker and now wants 2 years extension why not Hassan Sheikh. We will have strong legitimate NISA . Democracy BS only exists in Xamar

 

[DR OSMAN]

@bidenkulaha the laws are useless if not harmonized with each federal state, it will just be thrown out

 

[bidenkulaha]

@bidenkulaha the laws are useless if not harmonized with each federal state, it will just be thrown out

By who? Elections get decided in Xamar hence why PL desperately needs IC to support them in blocking these laws. Yet these same laws are demanded by IC. Such as the constitutional one’s and 1m1v.

HSM has said f PL and they’ll apply in the other 4 states and Xamar so we’ll go ahead without you. If you don’t want to take part in coming elections we’ll select your MPs for you like SL.

 

[The Midlands]

Bro we don't care who rules becuz they only have day to day affairs power, that's why we don't care who wins or loses in SFG cuz its ceremonial govt with limited powers, but f*ck with constitution then u will see 'awoodeena'

it will no no longer be ceremonial in south central Somalia in coalition with North Somalia aka SL