Has somalis ever practiced falconry

[Soul Kaizer]

I always wandered has somalis ever practised falconry as similar pastoralist people like the Kazakhs and the Arab bedouins have also practiced it.

 

[Soul Kaizer]

Damn not a single nigga has a anwser! I guess the silence is the answer. Somalia has no historical traditions of falconry

 

[Dima&Damo]

Are there even falcons in the horn

 

[SPMLegend]

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I always wandered has somalis ever practised falconry as similar pastoralist people like the Kazakhs and the Arab bedouins have also practiced it.

 

[Soul Kaizer]

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Any information behind this photo?

 

[SPMLegend]

Any information behind this photo?

I don’t have the source but it looks like some Somali Sufi uncle with an eagle on his turban
are there any Sufi users to help us identify this individual

 

[backgroundISneeded]

Somalis have dogs. I have not heard about pry birds.

 

[Soul Kaizer]

Somalis have dogs. I have not heard about pry birds.

Thats interesting if there is enough material can you make a thread about somalis relationship with dogs.

I kinda like this trend of threads about how somali people interact with their wildlife.

 

[backgroundISneeded]

Thats interesting if there is enough material can you make a thread about somalis relationship with dogs.

I kinda like this trend of threads about how somali people interact with their wildlife.

Inshallah. I will write essay about dogs and its history in Somali peninsula.

 

[niggaibnh]

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That picture looks amazing

 

[Shimbiris]

Hunting in general was frowned upon by Somalis of the "noble" qabiils. Absolute no-no, as far as I know. It was left entirely to Gabooye groups whose main method of hunting, as far as I know, was always the use of bows and arrows with poison tipped arrows and perhaps sometimes also employing the help of shepherd dogs:

I never got the Eagle emblem. It has no historical tie to Somalis. We did not historically practice falconry like Arabs. Hunters among Somalis were normally the low-caste groups like the Madhiban and they used long-bows and poison tipped arrows.

If they really were employing Arab symbolism I'd have gone with Dhows like some gulf states use here and there. Somalis at least actually did use Dhows.

Hunting with falcons and hawks never really became a thing.

 

[Burqad]

Hunting and fishing are low-caste in Somalia, noble clans only eat what they raised themselves or raided

 

[Soul Kaizer]

Hunting and fishing are low-caste in Somalia, noble clans only eat what they raised themselves or raided

Thats kind of standered throughout many cultures in the world i think.

 

[Shangani]

Hunting in general was frowned upon by Somalis of the "noble" qabiils. Absolute no-no, as far as I know. It was left entirely to Gabooye groups whose main method of hunting, as far as I know, was always the use of bows and arrows with poison tipped arrows and perhaps sometimes also employing the help of shepherd dogs:



Hunting with falcons and hawks never really became a thing.

The hunting with dogs thing was pretty cool to experience, When I went home one time one of out neighbors invited me and my cousins to go on a hunting trip with him. He had a pickup truck full of dogs in the back bed fully trained drove two hours out of town and he let them go. Would whistle to get the dogs to do what they wanted we left with a dear/gazelle at the end of the day.

 

[ZBR]

Hunting in general was frowned upon by Somalis of the "noble" qabiils. Absolute no-no, as far as I know. It was left entirely to Gabooye groups whose main method of hunting, as far as I know, was always the use of bows and arrows with poison tipped arrows and perhaps sometimes also employing the help of shepherd dogs:



Hunting with falcons and hawks never really became a thing.

Arabs are proud hunters as it’s part of the colonization spirit of man — as people disperse, virgin lands need to be conquered from the wolf effectively by bow and arrow . Somalis did hunt predators to protect their livestock or prey for sport and as a supplement but humiliation factor is only when it becomes a livelihood as it’s such a precarious insecure life. If you sit with odaays they have deer hunting stories and stories of fending off predators

I don’t know if we practice falconry, but if not I’d say it’s a sign of our primitiveness compared to our neighbors because falconry is a sign of a highly refined culture and a fine tuned ability to delegate even to the most uncharitable and arrogant of animals — hunting with a falcon is much more difficult than with a dog because falcons are never domesticated they are wild and their use is very specific, small elusive game such has rabbits squirrels and birds

Dogs have higher intelligence, are naturally charitable to their perceived master and love to recompense, all this make them easier to train. The difference between the two is like a butcher’s knife and a surgical scalpel

Ancient Egyptians used the a peregrine falcon diety, Horus, as their symbol of martial prowess and kingship . peregrine falcon being the preferred bird for falconry throughout history until now even in the west

 

[Shimbiris]

I don’t know if we practice falconry, but if not I’d say it’s a sign of our primitiveness compared to our neighbors because falconry is a sign of a highly refined culture and a fine tuned ability to delegate even to the most uncharitable and arrogant of animals — hunting with a falcon is much more difficult than with a dog because falcons are never domesticated they are wild and their use is very specific, small elusive game such has rabbits squirrels and birds

Somalis mostly historically hunted out of necessity. Such as protecting their livestock or out of desperation. Hunting as some sort of livelihood, a real way of life or true sport was genuinely frowned upon and seen as some sort of subhuman act that was beneath them. Probably to do with the fact that some Hunter-Gatherer cultures probably still survived in the Horn during recorded history and as a way to differentiate themselves the farmers and pastoralists of the region scoffed at the idea of doing what they do, whether with falcons or not, rather than some strange self-hater-y sounding reason like us being "primitive" or some bullshit like that.

Saaxiib, there is nothing more "primitive" about Somali nomads when you look at Bedouins. Anyone who thinks so is not familiar with either group and is just either uqdad filled, has a superiority complex (as an Arab) or is just an imbecile. And, frankly, I could make the same argument that Arabs didn't supposedly have the "sophistication" required in botany to concoct various poisons and effectively dip their arrows and spears in them the way the Somalis who did hunt regularly did so OR, it's just more likely that that didn't catch-on in Arabia for whatever reason like perhaps less of a prevalence of fauna. The answer is pretty much never "people dumb", saaxiib.