What subs of HJ are ev32? because all the dna results of HJ's i've seen on this site and on 23andme were haplogroup T.
Don’t know their sub clans tbh. I’ve seen to many to count out.
The only Habar Xabusheed results I have seen was a E-V16 Sanbuur and a typical Isaaq T-M70 Tol Jeclo.
The problem with that person is that he stated he didn't know much about HJ, yet he believes HJ is EV-32, whereas HJ is the majority of Habar Xabusheed, just saying. I've only seen HJs under T. I cannot stand folks talking about things they know nothing about.
where did you see their results, on 23andme or YFull?
23andme
we can't jump to conclusions yet maybe he has evidence.
well idk about that as i've seen Gx with other haplogroups but never seen a HJ that doesn't have haplogroup T. Btw when I say HJ I mean Muuse son of Isaaq.
he asked about their sub clans. Why the f*ck as an HA would I know their deep sub clans. I’m not an Easterner.
Believes lol. Who is this nigga? I’ve seen their results including back in the early days on ftdna. One of the first E-V32 Isaaqs on FTDNA was HJ.
Bro is crying cause I said I’ve seen HJ E-V32. Emotional niggas like you get blocked and ignored. I’ve been in this game far longer than you kiddo
23&me and FTDNA. I think this Toghdheer sample is the same HJ individual who was one of the first HJ I’ve seen on FTDNA. His str values was quite close to us HA but different. Makes sense he is in a clade that’s closer to HA if it is indeed him. He shares a clade with an Ashraaf (under Ethio flag) with a 2400 ybp tmrca
You could be right however there are other isaaq clans in togdheer not only HJ so we don't know for sure that it's a HJ since their clan isn't shown.23&me and FTDNA. I think this Toghdheer sample is the same HJ individual who was one of the first HJ I’ve seen on FTDNA. His str values was quite close to us HA but different. Makes sense he is in a clade that’s closer to HA if it is indeed him. He shares a clade with an Ashraaf (under Ethio flag) with a 2400 ybp tmrca
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Idk what an Ashraaf is, is it a barwaani clan?
There’s only HJ & HY in Toghdheer, no other Isaaqs. The HJ already had his str values in FTDNA and was closer to HA than to other Somalis before he removed himself from the E-M35
The others are HA. Me (under Ethio flag) and another Jibril Abokor with an Ciise Muuse upstream of us. Our clade is medieval and quite young. Yfull gives a tmrca of 950 while FTDNA gives us 750 ybp (1250 CE).
They are a clan that lives all over Somaliweyn in Southern Somalia & Ethiopia.
Muusa isaaq make up the bulk of the population; when they realize the truth, some people become irritated.
On average, they'll still be most T, I matched with HA with T on familytree, but the vast majority will still be E-V32, I've also seen Ogaden T, Warsangeli T, as more people take these taste, certain subclans will contain different haplogroups, but the overall clan will show up as E or T.
I agree. I’m maternally CG and I haven’t come across a single one that was E-V32 besides one guy on this forum. I have come across a lot more HJ E-V32 tho which to me indicates they have it a higher frequency.
