ts was about Somalis average household income in the US
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Guess which African Community in the US has the lowest Median Household Income?
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Yea were ranked at the bottom because most of our families came here as broke refugees. 1st and 2nd gen Somali Americans are raising the average just by obtaining better paying jobs. Our parents are the ones that are primarily stuck working low wage jobs.
@Soul Kaizer are you half filipino? they tend to mix a lot and I have seen a lot if half Filipinos.
Apparently it was like 30 something thousand just ten years ago, so the fact it’s around the 50k threshold now is wild. Besides, half of all American Somalis are under 25. Of course they’re going to be broke, they’re young and our parents came here as impoverished and poorly educated refugees. Were doing phenomenally in school now so by the time my generation are middle aged, we should be in the middle class, providing we don’t all get thrown out of the country.
Chaseyourdreamzz
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First Your comparing refugees to economic migrants unfair comparison secondly these stats are mainly for our parents generation half of Somalis in America are under 25 and the median income has risen by almost 20k since 2010 lastly almost 50k Somalis where brought from 2009-2016 that will obviously impact stats a lot
people like Cape Verdeans have been in the Boston area for over 100 years in large numbers we will see a big change in numbers by the 2030 census
people like Cape Verdeans have been in the Boston area for over 100 years in large numbers we will see a big change in numbers by the 2030 census
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Yeah but its not a good look at all, really tired of it
@Barkhadle1520 please tell me that the laughing emoji implies u know what that picture means 
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Considering how Somalis have been there for less then 30-20 years, I see it as growth
Somali American household income is often underreported due to the prevalence of informal work, cash businesses, and self-employment within the community.
A similar pattern has been observed among Somali immigrants in the UK, where self-employment and informal labor markets mask the true economic picture.
This phenomenon is not unique to Somali Americans. For instance, many Chinese and Korean immigrants operate family-owned businesses such as restaurants, laundromats, and beauty supply stores and often report lower taxable income due to reinvestment. Later studies revealed that their real household wealth and economic power were far greater than official income reports suggested.
Similarly, early U.S. census data suggested that Nigerian Americans had average earnings similar to African Americans (~$45K). Later research showed that Nigerian Americans had higher levels of entrepreneurship, education, and professional careers, which pushed their true median household income to over $68K, among the highest of all Black groups in the U.S.
In terms of self-employment and entrepreneurship, about 1 in 5 Somali Americans is a business owner, according to the Somali American Chambers of Commerce. Ohio alone has 15,000 Somali-owned businesses, representing a business ownership rate of 20% much higher than the U.S. average of 6% and the immigrant average of 10%.
Their website highlights that Somali businesses have revitalized the manufacturing and service sectors, with local congressmen personally thanking the Somali Commerce community. Taxes generated by these businesses help fund schools and transportation projects.
An indirect way to estimate Somali American earnings is by looking at remittances sent back to Somalia. A 2013 study estimated:
150 000 x 3.800 is 570 million dollars a year.
For Somali Americans to send $3,800 per person annually, they likely earn at least $60K per year. Other surveys report remittances of $423 per month ($5,000 per year), this only reflects just a portion of the total of what they send. Additional seperate direct investments show Somali Americans investing $5,000–$50,000 per person, sometimes up to $100,000, into productive sectors in Somalia.
This demonstrates that Somali Americans are among the largest investors and remittance senders into Somalia, indicating significant available capital.
The Somali American business class regularly meets with international/Somali entrepreneurs to invest in East Africa, showcasing the substantial economic resources and outward investment capacity of the community.
A similar pattern has been observed among Somali immigrants in the UK, where self-employment and informal labor markets mask the true economic picture.
This phenomenon is not unique to Somali Americans. For instance, many Chinese and Korean immigrants operate family-owned businesses such as restaurants, laundromats, and beauty supply stores and often report lower taxable income due to reinvestment. Later studies revealed that their real household wealth and economic power were far greater than official income reports suggested.
Similarly, early U.S. census data suggested that Nigerian Americans had average earnings similar to African Americans (~$45K). Later research showed that Nigerian Americans had higher levels of entrepreneurship, education, and professional careers, which pushed their true median household income to over $68K, among the highest of all Black groups in the U.S.
In terms of self-employment and entrepreneurship, about 1 in 5 Somali Americans is a business owner, according to the Somali American Chambers of Commerce. Ohio alone has 15,000 Somali-owned businesses, representing a business ownership rate of 20% much higher than the U.S. average of 6% and the immigrant average of 10%.
Their website highlights that Somali businesses have revitalized the manufacturing and service sectors, with local congressmen personally thanking the Somali Commerce community. Taxes generated by these businesses help fund schools and transportation projects.
An indirect way to estimate Somali American earnings is by looking at remittances sent back to Somalia. A 2013 study estimated:
150 000 x 3.800 is 570 million dollars a year.
For Somali Americans to send $3,800 per person annually, they likely earn at least $60K per year. Other surveys report remittances of $423 per month ($5,000 per year), this only reflects just a portion of the total of what they send. Additional seperate direct investments show Somali Americans investing $5,000–$50,000 per person, sometimes up to $100,000, into productive sectors in Somalia.
This demonstrates that Somali Americans are among the largest investors and remittance senders into Somalia, indicating significant available capital.
The Somali American business class regularly meets with international/Somali entrepreneurs to invest in East Africa, showcasing the substantial economic resources and outward investment capacity of the community.
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Riftvalley
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Young Somalis with significant income are probably still helping out people back home as well as family in the USA. Wait a few decades to see where Somalis are.
Somali American household income is often underreported due to the prevalence of informal work, cash businesses, and self-employment within the community.
A similar pattern has been observed among Somali immigrants in the UK, where self-employment and informal labor markets mask the true economic picture.
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This phenomenon is not unique to Somali Americans. For instance, many Chinese and Korean immigrants operate family-owned businesses such as restaurants, laundromats, and beauty supply stores and often report lower taxable income due to reinvestment. Later studies revealed that their real household wealth and economic power were far greater than official income reports suggested.
Similarly, early U.S. census data suggested that Nigerian Americans had average earnings similar to African Americans (~$45K). Later research showed that Nigerian Americans had higher levels of entrepreneurship, education, and professional careers, which pushed their true median household income to over $68K, among the highest of all Black groups in the U.S.
In terms of self-employment and entrepreneurship, about 1 in 5 Somali Americans is a business owner, according to the Somali American Chambers of Commerce. Ohio alone has 15,000 Somali-owned businesses, representing a business ownership rate of 20% much higher than the U.S. average of 6% and the immigrant average of 10%.
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Their website highlights that Somali businesses have revitalized the manufacturing and service sectors, with local congressmen personally thanking the Somali Commerce community. Taxes generated by these businesses help fund schools and transportation projects.
An indirect way to estimate Somali American earnings is by looking at remittances sent back to Somalia. A 2013 study estimated:
150 000 x 3.800 is 570 million dollars a year.
View attachment 373263
For Somali Americans to send $3,800 per person annually, they likely earn at least $60K per year. Other surveys report remittances of $423 per month ($5,000 per year), this only eflects just a portion of the total of what they send. Additional direct investments show Somali Americans investing $5,000–$50,000 per person, sometimes up to $100,000, into productive sectors in Somalia.
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This demonstrates that Somali Americans are among the largest investors and remittance senders into Somalia, indicating significant available capital.
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The Somali American business class regularly meets with international/Somali entrepreneurs to invest in East Africa, showcasing the substantial economic resources and outward investment capacity of the community.
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That being said, public statistics are likely to change rapidly in the next few years, even without adjustments for underreported income. This is because the Somali American community is predominantly young, with many having entered education in large numbers and now graduating to pursue professional careers.
Somali Americans are following the classic immigrant pattern, first-generation builds businesses, while the second generation moves into high paying professional careers.
Exactly, how was this study conducted, what was the pool of people surveyed
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Chaseyourdreamzz
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We already analyzed these numbers they mainly represent our parents generation most Somalis in America are 25 and under just imagine how many educated Somalis will enter the workforce in 10 years things will change in a positive way inshallah
Our parents that work file their taxes like every other hard working American.
@Chaseyourdreamzz @zeilaprime
A lot of old Somalis are still working low wage jobs here in america. You can find the old heads driving Uber, working in warehouses, and even working random shitty jobs at the airports.
I be feeling bad for the ones working at the airport ngl. These old Somali ladies are making poverty wages doing janitorial work at the airport. The ones still working won't be able to retire comfortably anytime soon without the help of their kids.
A lot of older-first generation Somalis worked in a wide range of service sector jobs everything from social services and healthcare to accounting, farming, pharmacy, butchery, childcare, trucking, and even running their own businesses.
Although it often goes unmentioned, there are even Somali construction crews operating in places like Minnesota and Ohio.
Research has shown that many Somalis hold multiple jobs and often run side businesses at the same time.
While some may have started out in retail or airport jobs when they first arrived, they eventually moved beyond those roles , pursuing education and starting their own businesses.
Here’s an example:
Listen to this man explain what it was like when he first arrived and how he strategized his success which mirrors the approach of many Somalis. (He later earned a master’s degree and now owns several businesses and a venture capitalist firm.)
Remember the quote I shared earlier? Do you really think Somalis could send $3,800–$5,000 each per year back home while earning poverty level wages?
150 000 x 3.800 is 570 million dollars a year.
For reference, the individual cited as an example in this article was an accountant and although the study doesn’t clarify this, much of that money is likely direct investment rather than just personal remittances:
Somalis abroad are rebuilding their war-torn country through selfless giving
At the end of every month, Ahmed Abubakar walks to a local money transfer agency in Memphis, Tennessee to send money to the Horn of Africa. Abubakar, 29, works as an accountant and the cash is wired to his mother and siblings who now reside 8,000 miles away in Nairobi. It also goes to friends...
Also, @Atoosh mentioned welfare/government assistance. The truth is that most Somalis in America are self-reliant, with a self-support index of around 80 for over two decades.
In fact, the counties with the highest concentration of Somalis also have the highest employment and self-support rates, because they create opportunities and hire from within their own communities.
It also explained here as well: Extremely few Somalis even receive government assistance:
Honestly, believing Somalis can support themselves on poverty wages without government assistance while still sending huge sums back home is just delusional.
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Wow i never thought of it like that. I had always assumed they wiukd have been able to accurately assess somali wealth due to us oaying taxes to the irs. But I guess it makes sense that you won't be able to actually use that info to research a community since you cant necessarily distinguish somalis with this dataSomali American household income is often underreported due to the prevalence of informal work, cash businesses, and self-employment within the community.
A similar pattern has been observed among Somali immigrants in the UK, where self-employment and informal labor markets mask the true economic picture.
View attachment 373264
This phenomenon is not unique to Somali Americans. For instance, many Chinese and Korean immigrants operate family-owned businesses such as restaurants, laundromats, and beauty supply stores and often report lower taxable income due to reinvestment. Later studies revealed that their real household wealth and economic power were far greater than official income reports suggested.
Similarly, early U.S. census data suggested that Nigerian Americans had average earnings similar to African Americans (~$45K). Later research showed that Nigerian Americans had higher levels of entrepreneurship, education, and professional careers, which pushed their true median household income to over $68K, among the highest of all Black groups in the U.S.
In terms of self-employment and entrepreneurship, about 1 in 5 Somali Americans is a business owner, according to the Somali American Chambers of Commerce. Ohio alone has 15,000 Somali-owned businesses, representing a business ownership rate of 20% much higher than the U.S. average of 6% and the immigrant average of 10%.
View attachment 373260
Their website highlights that Somali businesses have revitalized the manufacturing and service sectors, with local congressmen personally thanking the Somali Commerce community. Taxes generated by these businesses help fund schools and transportation projects.
An indirect way to estimate Somali American earnings is by looking at remittances sent back to Somalia. A 2013 study estimated:
150 000 x 3.800 is 570 million dollars a year.
View attachment 373263
For Somali Americans to send $3,800 per person annually, they likely earn at least $60K per year. Other surveys report remittances of $423 per month ($5,000 per year), this only reflects just a portion of the total of what they send. Additional seperate direct investments show Somali Americans investing $5,000–$50,000 per person, sometimes up to $100,000, into productive sectors in Somalia.
View attachment 373265
This demonstrates that Somali Americans are among the largest investors and remittance senders into Somalia, indicating significant available capital.
View attachment 373262
The Somali American business class regularly meets with international/Somali entrepreneurs to invest in East Africa, showcasing the substantial economic resources and outward investment capacity of the community.
View attachment 373266
View attachment 373267
A lot of older-first generation Somalis worked in a wide range of service sector jobs everything from social services and healthcare to accounting, farming, pharmacy, butchery, childcare, trucking, and even running their own businesses.
View attachment 373430
Although it often goes unmentioned, there are even Somali construction crews operating in places like Minnesota and Ohio.
Research has shown that many Somalis hold multiple jobs and often run side businesses at the same time.
View attachment 373434
While some may have started out in retail or airport jobs when they first arrived, they eventually moved beyond those roles , pursuing education and starting their own businesses.
Here’s an example:
Listen to this man explain what it was like when he first arrived and how he strategized his success which mirrors the approach of many Somalis. (He later earned a master’s degree and now owns several businesses and a venture capitalist firm.)
Remember the quote I shared earlier? Do you really think Somalis could send $3,800–$5,000 each per year back home while earning poverty level wages?
For reference, the individual cited as an example in this article was an accountant and although the study doesn’t clarify this, much of that money is likely direct investment rather than just personal remittances:
View attachment 373431Somalis abroad are rebuilding their war-torn country through selfless giving
At the end of every month, Ahmed Abubakar walks to a local money transfer agency in Memphis, Tennessee to send money to the Horn of Africa. Abubakar, 29, works as an accountant and the cash is wired to his mother and siblings who now reside 8,000 miles away in Nairobi. It also goes to friends...www.hiiraan.com
Also, @Atoosh mentioned welfare/government assistance. The truth is that most Somalis in America are self-reliant, with a self-support index of around 80 for over two decades.
In fact, the counties with the highest concentration of Somalis also have the highest employment and self-support rates, because they create opportunities and hire from within their own communities.
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It also explained here as well: Extremely few Somalis even receive government assistance:
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Honestly, believing Somalis can support themselves on poverty wages without government assistance while still sending huge sums back home is just delusional.
Also everything i am saying here is an observable reality i see it all the time on social media, by people who live around and work with Somalis in America;
Do you see them mentioning warehouse work, Uber driving, or janitorial jobs?
Somalis work in diverse, multi-sector roles and many run profitable businesses that employ large numbers of people in areas they live.
They’re not relying only on low wage labor or they are not paying people poverty level salaries either because they bring in enough to pay them fairly and on time.
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