Greater Somalia dream is OVER

[Emir of Zayla]

So? The Ottomans clearly went against the Hadith. As for fighting Christian Habeshas in general, it can only be from a defensive posture, we cannot launch an offensive war against them.

We’ve never started a war against them without them first initiating hostility. We’re completely in the right to take back our lands and fight against them.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

So? The Ottomans clearly went against the Hadith. As for fighting Christian

were the Umayyads not following the hadith when they attacked the Christian Habesha's?

Habeshas in general, it can only be from a defensive posture, we cannot launch an offensive war against them.

I think this only applies to Habeshas who converted to islam like Al Najashi.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

I think this only applies to Habeshas who converted to islam like Al Najashi.

Stop changing the religion. The Prophet(Pbuh) clearly stated: 'Leave the Ethiopians alone so long as they leave you alone, and leave the Turks alone so long as they leave you alone.'

Nowhere does it specify that we should only leave Muslim Habeshas alone.

 

[Kizaru]

Stop changing the religion. The Prophet(Pbuh) clearly stated: 'Leave the Ethiopians alone so long as they leave you alone, and leave the Turks alone so long as they leave you alone.'

Nowhere does it specify that we should only leave Muslim Habeshas alone.

ogaden is somali. Idk about NDF.

 

[amiirad]

I think everyone is muslim here lol

For the muslims of the site
Maybe what happend to somalia 2 times going through a downfall after attacking ethiopia is heavenly promised.

Take a look at this hadith by Phrophet Mohammed pbuh.

Source: https://sunnah.com/nasai/25/92


Is ethiopia protected by divine right?
Does this explain why somalia has been punished twice when we waged war against them?

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Stop changing the religion. The Prophet(Pbuh) clearly stated: 'Leave the Ethiopians alone so long as they leave you alone, and leave the Turks alone so long as they leave you alone.'

Nowhere does it specify that we should only leave Muslim Habeshas alone.

they clearly fought against the Muslims for a very long time. Menilik conquered Harar and made the masjid into a church.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

they clearly fought against the Muslims for a very long time. Menilik conquered Harar and made the masjid into a church.

In the grand scheme, waging a war to reclaim the Ogaden would be a defensive war & can be justified.

 

[Soul Kaizer]

I think everyone is muslim here lol

There a few murtads who love to chime in on religious topic whose opinions don’t really matter as they are not invested in it.

 

[Keo]

Ethiopia has been defeated before
578CE
1529
1977 (until foreign powers got involved)

It can be done again

 

[Khaem]

So? The Ottomans clearly went against the Hadith. As for fighting Christian Habeshas in general, it can only be from a defensive posture, we cannot launch an offensive war against them.

So what? Italians conquered and Xooged them from the 30s to end of ww2.
The Ottomans xooged them and took provences from their base in the Highlands.
The Adalites invaded and conquered most of Abyssinia for decades, sacked their Axum. And nearly wiped them out had it not been for the assassination of Ahmad Gurey in battle by Portuguese knights. Had the Imam been less egotistical and didn't fight at the front of his army and survived. Ethiopia would not exist.


Only reason Ethiopia is a state is because of its geography. A small feudal society on top of a mountain.

 

[Soul Kaizer]

So what? Italians conquered and Xooged them from the 30s to end of ww2.
The Ottomans xooged them and took provences from their base in the Highlands.
The Adalites invaded and conquered most of Abyssinia for decades, sacked their Axum. And nearly wiped them out had it not been for the assassination of Ahmad Gurey in battle by Portuguese knights. Had the Imam been less egotistical and didn't fight at the front of his army and survived. Ethiopia would not exist.


Only reason Ethiopia is a state is because of its geography. A small feudal society on top of a mountain.

they are gripping onto those mountains with their lives.

I will not reset until the somali flag waves from the highest mountain in ethiopia.

 

[Jaale]

So many brain dead retards arguing about nothing. Somalia is one of the shitiest states to exist on earth. How about making that a better place instead of fantastical wankery.

 

[Soul Kaizer]

So many brain dead retards arguing about nothing. Somalia is one of the shitiest states to exist on earth. How about making that a better place instead of fantastical wankery.

Wow so rational and thoughtful.

 

[Jaale]

Wow so rational and thoughtful.

As sarcastic as you may be, it is very rational. Please argue against the rationality and thoughtfulness of that point. I would like to see the usefulness of this retarded bullshit.

 

[niggaibnh]

For the muslims of the site
Maybe what happend to somalia 2 times going through a downfall after attacking ethiopia is heavenly promised.

Take a look at this hadith by Phrophet Mohammed pbuh.

Source: https://sunnah.com/nasai/25/92


Is ethiopia protected by divine right?
Does this explain why somalia has been punished twice when we waged war against them?

A lot of people are nacas

The proper translation is not Ethiopian rather is Abyssinia

Abyssinia was referred to the people of horn so
Abyssinia = Somali, afar, Oromo, habesha and the rest of the ethic groups.
When the Arabs are talking about specific groups they will say “al habesha “ or “habesha” which aims only habesha ethic group
For Somalis they will say “bilal al berber” which aims only Somalis.

However Abyssinia is whole of them as one

 

[Soul Kaizer]

As sarcastic as you may be, it is very rational. Please argue against the rationality and thoughtfulness of that point. I would like to see the usefulness of this retarded bullshit.

Do you not think i make threads about how we can further improve somalia. I just made this thread because i saw a hadith that had interesting implications that i liked to share.

You can tell i wasn’t serious with it because if you read the thread i was pretending to be an Ethiopian nationalist half way through it.

If you want to read some more productive threads then hear you go


Thread 'Half a Million of Somalis are displaced by flooding!!'
https://www.somalispot.com/threads/half-a-million-of-somalis-are-displaced-by-flooding.157730/
Thread 'How to prevent drought in SL'
https://www.somalispot.com/threads/how-to-prevent-drought-in-sl.157638/

 

[Jaale]

Do you not think i make threads about how we can further improve somalia. I just made this thread because i saw a hadith that had interesting implications that i liked to share.

You can tell i wasn’t serious with it because if you read the thread i was pretending to be an Ethiopian nationalist half way through it.

If you want to read some more productive threads then hear you go


Thread 'Half a Million of Somalis are displaced by flooding!!'
https://www.somalispot.com/threads/half-a-million-of-somalis-are-displaced-by-flooding.157730/
Thread 'How to prevent drought in SL'
https://www.somalispot.com/threads/how-to-prevent-drought-in-sl.157638/

Seems like my troll tolerance is getting too low these days

Welp. Carry on then

 

[noname_]

A lot of people are nacas

The proper translation is not Ethiopian rather is Abyssinia

Abyssinia was referred to the people of horn so
Abyssinia = Somali, afar, Oromo, habesha and the rest of the ethic groups.
When the Arabs are talking about specific groups they will say “al habesha “ or “habesha” which aims only habesha ethic group
For Somalis they will say “bilal al berber” which aims only Somalis.

However Abyssinia is whole of them as one

Are you sure? Abysinnia didn’t exist in his time and was created in 1200s, same for Ethiopia which existed after the 1900s. They were most likely using the Habash term before most of the Horns converted to Islam.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

@Internet Nomad I am sure it is a weak hadith.
Any hadith that mentions Turks should ring alarm bells in your head.

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

Was the Arabic necessary

Yes, it's easier to type in Arabic