We're talking about Sofala here old man.
Sorry, I can give you five links from the google books from by five different historians stating the same thing that Somali merchants from Mogadishu established a colony in Sofala. You're not a historian and you certainly don't have the knowledge like these five scholars so give it up old man.
Here's the Pungwe River Basin. It is shared between Mozambique and Zimbabwe and is 249 miles long.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/major-rivers-of-mozambique.html
https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=the+Pungwe+river+basin+in+Mozabique&fr=yhs-iba-1&hspart=iba&hsimp=yhs-1&imgurl=http://img.static.reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/styles/attachment-large/public/resources-pdf-previews/709629-UNOSAT_A3_FL20170118MOZ_PungweRiver_Sofala.png?itok=YJMEPsSE#id=0&iurl=http://img.static.reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/styles/attachment-large/public/resources-pdf-previews/709629-UNOSAT_A3_FL20170118MOZ_PungweRiver_Sofala.png?itok=YJMEPsSE&action=click
:The western, upper, parts of the Pungwe River basin consist of argillaceous red soils of a considerable depth. In the mountainous areas the soils are shallower, but can reach larger depths in the valleys. The soils of the region below the plateau are more varying and are classified as clayey-sandy fluvial dark soils, fertile fluvial soils or shallow soils without agricultural potential. A map describing the geology of the Pungwe River basin is presented in Figure 3."
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Sofala is a little port on the coast. The Pungwe River Basin goes well into Zimbabwe. This is your link so you should have caught this. As I said, the gold came down river to the port at Sofala. The province name came much later than the port; don't get confused when you read the map. Most of the gold traded in the early years was from the Great Zimbabwe field and was produced from hard rock. Your article is complaining about the mercury in the sediments that was used later to collect placer gold. The two represent two distinctly different time periods.
This is silly all this time you were arguing that sofala was just a port and tried to use the same arguement to say shiraz instead of somalis had a colony in sofala because sofala was just a port,its absurd
This is silly all this time you were arguing that sofala was just a port and tried to use the same arguement to say shiraz instead of somalis had a colony in sofala because sofala was just a port,its absurd
Sofala at the time was a source of gold,at that time,your whole arguement is that is just a trade port,documented history says that somalis were the first colonist,doesnt matter what sofala was
Trying to discredit somalis not being the first or not even being the colonist because sofala was a port or not
Just because it's a port doesn't mean it didn't have mines. Many ports around the world have to have rich resources. I already showed you a source that there are gold mines found in Sofala.
I showed you multiple sources that Mogadishu was always inhabited by Somalis. Shirazis only inhabited the Swahili coast, try harder. By the way, Shirazis are not dark skin nor were they ever reffered as Bilad Al-Berber or Barbara, that was actually an ancient and medieval term to describe Somalis. You can't repeat the same lies I previously debunked. I showed you a source stated that they were Somali merchants, no misinterpretation here you blind idiot.
What exactly have you heard that you don’t want to believe? Did you meet “Cadcads” when you were in Somalia?
You are lying through your teeth. Many people exposed you and said I'm right. My sources are clear except you. It's just you're intellectually dishonest. I declared victory now on this thread proving my point on Sofala. I showed you a source stating they were Somali merchants that established a colony in Sofala and I also showed you a source from a 12th century historian conforming Somali inhabitants in Mogadishu and yet you're still debating me? It's because you have an agenda here to distort Somali history. That's what you are, a historical revisionist troll. By the way, I don't misinterprete anything. I simply quote them.
For example, you said Mogadishu and the Benadir coast was an Arab, Persian and Indian enclave. However, a medieval historian called Qadi debunks that when he visits Mogadishu and the Benadir coast and he stated that they were not west or south Asian enclaves but instead dominated and ruled by the native dark skin Africans that spoke their own native African language. What you think of this old man?
Link: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ROZs6lqW9RYC&pg=PA124&dq=mogadishu+dark+skin+enclave&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs6PeXl7PcAhVCJVAKHY_xC0sQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=mogadishu dark skin enclave&f=false
Yet you still reject every source I show you.
Read this and respond to it wisely. Don't try making excuses now because if you're going to bullshit please don't respond.
I don't know what's your agenda here but he clearly stated Mogadishu and the Benadir coast was dominated by Somalis. They spoke Arabic for religious purposes but overall they spoke their African tongue in their everyday life. He debunks your bullshit.
Now please don't twist Ibn Battuta history. Type in Ibn Battuta and Mogadishu and Somali is mentioned everywhere and I can show you multiple links. No historians dispute this, it's only your historical revisionist agenda here.
Here is everything Ibn Battuta wrote about Mogadishu and Zeila in the 13th century. Where does in day that there were more West asians than Somalis? He said that from Zeila to Mogadishu was Bilad Al-Berber land (medieval name for Somalis).
Source: http://www.classzone.com/books/wh_05_shared/pdf/WHS05_015_424_PS.pdf
I mean he met the Somali ruler of Mogadishu and said he was dark skin part of Bilad Al-Berber race that spoke his native tongue (Somali).
By the way, we both know Somalis were referred as Bilad Al-Berber or Barbara by the Arabs during the middle ages and I'll post an evidence just so you know I'm right.
Link: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=JpNY7VPn1WUC&pg=PA130&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
Moving on. You always try to ignore this historian called Yaqut al-Hamawi stated that Mogadishu was inhabited by Swarthly Berbers who are ancestors of Somali people today. Last time I checked Shirazi people are not dark skin nor were they ever referred as Bilad Al-Berber or Barbara, that was an ancient and medieval term to describe the Somalis back then.
Lastly, I told you this before. Mogadishu in the medieval times was a province and a port for Ajuran Empire. If you look into Abgaal traditions, they will say they drove Ajuran out of Mogadishu and established a dynasty there to rule Hiraab Imamate.
In fact, the Mudaffar dynasty was a sub-dynasty of the Garen dynasty. They were Ajuran rulers that only ruled the Mogadishu province. They belong to an Ajuran sub-clan called Moorshe who once dominated Mogadishu but they were driven out by Abgaal. However, the Cadcads weren't kicked out but joined the Hiraab Imamate instead. If Cadcads were the main settlers then they would've been driven out so really you're not making any sense here, Grant.
Mudaffar dynasty only ruled Mogadishu which was an Ajuran province and the dynasty was part of the Ajuran stock. They were not Yemeni, it's a complete lie because Ajuran is a Somali clan, not a Yemeni clan.
Do you have reading comprehension? Do you know what "If not" mean? I didn't know your English level was this bad. Read the whole context here because you're proving me day by day you're an idiot.
"If not" means "or maybe" or "Maybe even". Go learn some English grammar.
The source basically means related to the Ajuran or perhaps an Ajuran stock itself.
Like I said, Abgaal traditions are a reality here. If the Hiraab conquest against Mogadishu was to drive Ajuran inhabitants out of Mogadishu then you can't make excuses here. Mogadishu was always dominated by Somalis whether you like it or not.
Now why are you going to ignore my sources on Ibn Battuta and Yaqut al-Hamawi that also debunks your lies?
I told you before, we will not get into that until you accept you're wrong about Mogadishu then we can progress from here.
