Getting rid of the “Cushitic” label.

[The alchemist]

There is a strange conflation here. Cushitic is merely a classification of many ethnic groups and linguistic speech groups that are highly correlated between linguistics and genetic affinity. Cushitic does not compete with an ethnic designation. A Somali is a Cushite but a Cushite is not necessarily a Somali nor is Cushitic an ethnic term.

Cushitic is a completely justified macro group on several levels - heck the genetics alone is extremely stabilized where you have some Sudanic guy from 2000 years ago looking more Somali-like than a Habash. Or a 3000-year-old Kenyan pastoralist sharing over 90% ancestry with Somalis above that of Oromos of today. This type of DNA existed in the Neolithic. This is not some superficial association I see some ignorant guys with no education on the matter try to push forth.

There is no conflict between ethnic emphasis and the classification of a broader group. It would be like a German thinking belonging to a Germanic group and having a likeness to other Germanic peoples is irreconcilable with his German identity. It's nonsense.

Now, being Cushitic does not mean Cushitic people are singing Kumbaya. Cushitic is not a political ideology whatsoever. You have to divorce that notion from your head because I don't agree with the notion you disagree with either.

 

[Nilotic]

So were the Upper "Nubians" genetically the same as the Lower "Nubians" in antiquity?

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

All cushitics oromos and habesha are opps

Don't lump us with Waaqists, Munaafiqs and Gaals

 

[Freudiantard]

Why can’t we have our own linguistic branch in the Afro-Asiatic langauge? Hopefully things will change in the future as the language gets researched more extensively.

Wouldn’t that be politically motivated, it’s not good to mix politics with linguistics or any other study for that matter imo

 

[Yami]

I can’t tell if this is a troll thread or not

 

[Khaemwaset]

So were the Upper "Nubians" genetically the same as the Lower "Nubians" in antiquity?

They would've consisted of many tribes but would've been of ethnically Cushitic origin. Beja ate both ethnically and linguistically Cushite.

 

[Shangani]

Linguistics is based on the genetic relationships of languages, groupings are allotted according to those formations.

Albanian is a unique, isolated language within IE, and Berber is its divergent separate respective branch within AA and consists of several languages. Somali is very unambiguously nested within Cushitic. These associations are never thrown willy-nilly.

Interesting, according to a spesific statistical measure, Arabic and Shehri (Modern South Arabian) is as far appart as Somali and Afar:
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Now, there is potential complications with methodology in what you want to measure and if that is proxy for various relatedness factors but I think it is an interesting feature they set up to illustrate. I have to also set the caveat that divergence is not consistent, or regulated by exact same rate of innovation, loss of similarity, etc.

what site is this

 

[Yami]

So were the Upper "Nubians" genetically the same as the Lower "Nubians" in antiquity?

There should be more studies in the region before anyone makes a concrete judgment imo. Sudan is very neglected in the archeological record. From what we do know it's assumed that the Kerma culture were Nilo Saharan speakers and C group were Cushitic

 

[Nilotic]

There should be more studies in the region before anyone makes a concrete judgment imo. Sudan is very neglected in the archeological record. From what we do know it's assumed that the Kerma culture were Nilo Saharan speakers and C group were Cushitic

I think that both the C-group and Kerma culture are designated as Cushitic whereas the people of Nabta Playa were Nilo-Saharan

 

[The alchemist]

what site is this

Compare languages - online genetic proximity calculator

www.elinguistics.net

 

[Knaan99]

The anglos used the "white" identity to assimilated Europeans coming to America and later mainland EU itself. Only Russians rejected that identity but keep it lowkey when they living in the west.
Why not use the "cush" identity to assimilate everyone in the horn/Sudan and maybe even south Sudan and kenya.
Who could stop 300m+(will hit that number soon) people with enough resource?? India is like 2 thousand ethnic groups 780 languages. Horn + Sudan is very doable.