Galmudug With SNA Capture Bacadwayne From Shabab

[codewebsduh]

Here are some local police being trained in Dhusomareeb. Unfortunately reer @Bariire generally have abandoned Galmudug proper for Xamar. They need to fight harder for investment in the region.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@DR OSMAN is right there is no state forces to hold and secure it like in Puntland.

As soon as SNA leaves shabab will be back. The Tom and Jerry flag waving game will not end.

Local capacity should be armed and trained and security transfered to them while the SNA holds position.

They attack Dhusomareeb airport which is supposebly the capital of this Galmudug. Where is El-dheer-elbur-harardheere, that is already 3 out of 7 degaans in shabab hands. They constantly push back n forth in the remainder. Other then cadaado, I have yet to see any stable town in this entity called galmudug. But what frustrates me is the entitlement attitude of @Alhazred and @Galmudug-State who keep crying for federal assistance, he never cries for his HG assistance. He is waiting for another clan to help him and I hate that philosophy.

Imagine PL waited in 98 for a government of somalia and demanding assistance to free it's degaans, demanding projects, constant demands that would've falled on deaf ears, but we did a isku tashi and took control and management of our land, we don't idly sit there like these booli qarans expecting a national hand out.

I don't expect anything from SNA or the SFG, If I want to build my town birta dheer, I will organize the locals and connect them with our diaspora and we will do our own thing privately not sit there and cry for hand outs. These HG are big talkers but when the shit hits the fan, waxay iska celin karin carur yar oo rahanwayn uu badan frontlineka shabab which PL crushed in 2016 in suuj-garmaal-garacad. My point that I am trying to send to our brothers in GM, stop crying, don't demand anything, keep your head down and work to better your people rather then waiting for Somali government.

And for god sakes, stop asking Somali govt to pay/train your troops when it can barely stand on it's own two feet. I want HG to either dismantle GM and combine their meagre resources with HS and forge a proper state or stay in this continous jerry flag waving between shabab and galmudug. Tough times call for Tough measures, get your act together waryaa.

 

[MT Foxtrot]

This is such a non-issue. Instead of posting utter tripe, go read up on the concept of a nation and the responsibilities of the state. Accepting help from the national army does not mean you are "entitled". The people contending with this terrorist insurgency do not have the material means of mounting an effective defence and, as such, rely on the assistance of their government. This is how things are supposed to work. Not to mention, defending the nation against foreign and domestic threats is the mandate of the SNA.

If I want to build my town birta dheer

Dude, stop. You're a diaspora Somali drunk-posting from an Australian café. You own nothing. It never ceases to amaze me that the proponents of the most backward, myopic, and harmful thinking are members of the diaspora. I guess it's easy to peddle this poison when you don't have to live with the consequences.

 

[DR OSMAN]

This is such a non-issue. Instead of posting utter tripe, go read up on the concept of a nation and the responsibilities of the state. Accepting help from the national army does not mean you are "entitled". The people contending with this terrorist insurgency do not have the material means of mounting an effective defence and, as such, rely on the assistance of their government. This is how things are supposed to work. Not to mention, defending the nation against foreign and domestic threats is the mandate of the SNA.


Dude, stop. You're a diaspora Somali drunk-posting from an Australian café. You own nothing. It never ceases to amaze me that the proponents of the most backward, myopic, and harmful thinking are members of the diaspora. I guess it's easy to peddle this poison when you don't have to live with the consequences.

You are so silly sometimes. Anigu Bah dubays-Osman Mahmoud-Maxamud Saleban-Mohamed Harti baan ahaay, anigu ma aqoonsani 'luqad' xun oo naga dhaxayso inay keenayso social identity between me and u, we are not from the same family god dammit, we only share a language.

A language doesn't define my origins unlike you. What I said stands, you are constantly asking what Somalia can do for you, when you should be asking what u can do for Somalia and not the other way around cause Somalia needs help, it's not in a position to give help. Now go back to your 'deegaan' god dammit and start doing something for it rather then running around trying to be a booli qaran because you will be wasting your time and more importantly your people's time will be neglected as the rest of the nation powers on forward.

 

[MT Foxtrot]

you are constantly asking what Somalia can do for you, when you should be asking what u can do for Somalia and not the other way around cause Somalia needs help, it's not in a position to give help.

The irony of lecturing some of the poorest people in world while living comfortably in Australia is not lost on me. Why don't you go to Somalia and help the people there instead of posting pictures of recently tarmacked roads?

You are so silly sometimes. Anigu Bah dubays-Osman Mahmoud-Maxamud Saleban-Mohamed Harti baan ahaay, anigu 'luqad' xun naga dhaxayso ha ku badelan inaan isku reer nahay, we are not from the same family god dammit, we only share a language.

Nothing but chest-beating clan chauvinism with a good mix of suugo science. There is no genetic differences between Somali clans. All Somalis constitute a single ethnicity which is basis of our nation. While you may find slight variations in cultural practices and different dialects, this is not enough to assert we are fundamentally different people.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The irony of lecturing some of the poorest people in world while living comfortably in Australia is not lost on me. Why don't you go to Somalia and help the people there instead of posting pictures of recently tarmacked roads?


Nothing but chest-beating clan chauvinism with a good mix of suugo science. There is no genetic differences between Somali clans. All Somalis constitute a single ethnicity which is basis of our nation. While you may find slight variations in cultural practices and different dialects, this is not enough to assert we are fundamentally different people.

I demand you tell me your clan and deegaan so I can gouge how productive your people have been for the past 30 years marki lagu kala tagay dalka, I am sure u won't pass on those details on because you know they are useless booli-qarans and that's why you prefer to hang off the Somali card to conceal your clan/degaan failure.

 

[Galmudug-State]

Your tribe is as arbitrary and meaningless as the colour of the shirt you decided to wear today.

What nonsense. Tribe is EVERYTHING. Only a fool blinds himself to this reality.

 

[MT Foxtrot]

I demand you tell me your clan and deegaan so I can gouge how productive your people

Why? So you can dismiss what I've said and avoid having to confront the irrationality of your beliefs? This is a naked attempt to subvert the discussion. To be clear, I don't identify by clan. I am a Somali first and Somali last. The benefit of growing up in a first world country is you can see qabil for what it really is: a relic from a less enlightened time. And one that has severely outstayed its welcome.

My advice? Let it go. For all your laandheerenimo, your people (all 16 million of them) live in abject poverty. Political instability stemming from clan politics gatekeeps any meaningful attempt to improve their material reality. Don't contribute to this by legitimising these parochial divisions. We can, and should, move past it.

 

[Jaale]

@Alhazred
Don’t be so easily triggered with the tribal stuff and look to the actual points he's making.

For Galmudug to be secure the locals need empowerment and be in charge of security. I don't even know how many times this town changed hands just this month. This is not sustainable long term security.

It's not about disparaging SNA or Somalia but look at the facts on the ground.

 

[Xanibacal bin Barqa]

The irony of lecturing some of the poorest people in world while living comfortably in Australia is not lost on me. Why don't you go to Somalia and help the people there instead of posting pictures of recently tarmacked roads?


Nothing but chest-beating clan chauvinism with a good mix of suugo science. There is no genetic differences between Somali clans. All Somalis constitute a single ethnicity which is basis of our nation. While you may find slight variations in cultural practices and different dialects, this is not enough to assert we are fundamentally different people.

The irony indeed , these kids parents had to flee their homeland because of qabiil infighting and it's disastrous effects and had to seek refuge in countries that abandoned this backward thinking centuries ago .

if this qabiil system is so great they should move back home to live amongst their clan folks lol.

 

[FBIsomalia]