Galmudug fertility rate is 7.3

Nin123

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We need to introduce some form of birth control. Matter fact all the south need birth control, they are too backwards people and only add poverty.
 

wonyluvr

Leader of the SDL( Somali defence league 🤫)
We need to introduce some form of birth control. Matter fact all the south need birth control, they are too backwards people and only add poverty.
Galmudug is central :mjlol: .Also I agree there needs to be some form of education in Somalia so people will stop breeding like crazy it’s far too much.Also ppl form the south aren’t the only backwards ones stay positive
 

Nin123

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Galmudug is central :mjlol: .Also I agree there needs to be some form of education in Somalia so people will stop breeding like crazy it’s far too much.Also ppl form the south aren’t the only backwards ones stay positive
In the south it follows the jungle law where the strong eat the weak. South is cursed lands.
 
21’ GM is not the 24’ GM. A lot has changed tbh.
Majority of abgaal & ceelbuur folks already moved to xamar.
A lot of HG did too but started from a higher pool and TFR make it seem like there is unlimited supply. My dad has 23 kids 💀 but he’s doing well financially MS so it’s different.

7.3 when u piss poor is very dangerous.
Rich gulf countries with good water/food infrastructure have like 2.6. If they had 7.3 = a civil war and mass starvation by now.
I calculated the total Somali birth. It was slightly below the total birth of a country like Russia. A nation of 143m that has unlimited farm land and energy.

Anyone who thinks this is sustainable is a sick individual who love to watch malnourished and/or starving kids.
Knaan99
 
Noticeable problems with these reports, all of them:

a) This is troubling, and a concern:
Of the 1.3 million State population, per the report, two-thirds of the populations is under 20 years of age, which means almost 866,667 are under 20; how is that sustainable? Further, 3 quarters of the said number, approx. 650,000 are under 30; or is it 3 quarters of the total population, which means just under a million are under 30. Is the data computation skewed, or is the tabulation flawed?

In the next sentence, it asserts 22% of the population is 15-29% of household members, meaning 286,000 of the total population. Elderly people of => 65 are just 52,000 of the total population. How are these even possible?
  • This indicates high mortality rates among the older age groups. Around two-thirds of Galmudug people are below the age of 20 years and around three-quarters (79 percent) are below the age of 30 years. Youth between 15-29 years of age constitute 22 percent of the household members, while older people (65 years and above) comprise only 4 percent of household members.


b) Again, troubling.
  • Overall, 54 percent of females and 56 percent of males aged 6 and above have never attended school. Five percent of female household members and 4 percent of male household members have completed primary education. Four percent of women have attained secondary education, compared to 5 percent of men (Figure 2.3).
If only 5% & 4% completed primary school, and 56% & 54% respectively have never attended school, what about the remaining 40 +/- %?

Smart phone usage, which I would venture meets the definition of literate adult, where a young person could read and write, stands at 72+%, yet only 5% and 4% of girls and boys respectively have competed primary school.
  • Adult literacy is defined as the population aged 15 years and over who are both able to read and write, with understanding, a short simple statement on their everyday lives (UNESCO Institute for Statistics, 2013)

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DR OSMAN

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Birth control 1 baby per Somali family, these extra dead weight will just be more burden on the nation as resources and wealth are limited, we are creating a nation of Sowetos by having high birth rates. Cap the child limit at hospitals and each family can have no more then 3 children. We want quality or Tayo fertility rates not 10 gashin kids per family.
 
I don't have much of a problem with this honestly. Somalia needs lots of young people to lead the nation. With our two rivers and maritime resources there will be no problems feeding a growing population as long as they are managed correctly.
 

DR OSMAN

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I don't have much of a problem with this honestly. Somalia needs lots of young people to lead the nation. With our two rivers and maritime resources there will be no problems feeding a growing population as long as they are managed correctly.

It doesn't matter how many kids Somali have cause if U have lots one western dude will laugh how his per capita is 50k and 5 times more then your 10 gashin kids combined total.

Quantity of kids don't mean shit in economics or military, it's all about Tayo not Tiro. I mean the khaleej is 100k max yet their controlling 15 million Somalis. Ppl are seeking Tayo now not numbers as numbers don't mean shit anymore in the new world.
 

El Nino

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21’ GM is not the 24’ GM. A lot has changed tbh.
Majority of abgaal & ceelbuur folks already moved to xamar.
A lot of HG did too but started from a higher pool and TFR make it seem like there is unlimited supply. My dad has 23 kids 💀 but he’s doing well financially MS so it’s different.

7.3 when u piss poor is very dangerous.
Rich gulf countries with good water/food infrastructure have like 2.6. If they had 7.3 = a civil war and mass starvation by now.
I calculated the total Somali birth. It was slightly below the total birth of a country like Russia. A nation of 143m that has unlimited farm land and energy.

Anyone who thinks this is sustainable is a sick individual who love to watch malnourished and/or starving kids.
This is insane. There is a food shortage in Somalia. What are these people going to eat?

Somalias starvation is more related to insecurity of the south, bad leadership and cultural attitudes.
If KG and JL were free, we could have enough crops to feed the nation. Add in fisheries, proper livestock industry.
 
So according to your analysis the high TFR is being offset by high migration to xamar amongst a lot of the clans in GM
Yes. Xamar’s population is not 2.6m. It’s over 4m. The good news is, they TFT drops when they move to xamar. But it’s GM job to introduce contraceptions. Which obviously they’re not doing.
Somalias starvation is more related to insecurity of the south, bad leadership and cultural attitudes.
If KG and JL were free, we could have enough crops to feed the nation. Add in fisheries, proper livestock industry.
Sure. But 7 TFR still not crazy. Need to drop to 3-4 to be somewhat sustainable.
 
A man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “I have found a woman who is of good lineage and is beautiful, but she does not children. Should I marry her?” He said, “No.” Then he came again with the same question and he told him not to marry her. Then he came a third time with the same question and he said: “Marry those who are loving and fertile, for I will be proud of your great numbers before the other nations.”

Oromos are 40 million strong, there are over 46 million bantus in Kenya. Do not be afraid of your fellow Somalis being fruitful. Most clans are within the same range. Our average Birthrate is 6.42.

Do not wish for fellow Somalis to be less fruitful, do not blame a child on a sin he hasn't commited.


Some individuals advocate for birth control and authoritarian one-child policies. The belief in the freedom is also the belive to have as many children as desired. Besides, cornerstone of marriage is parenthood.

Interestingly, these same individuals would likely celebrate such news if it were specific to their own region or tribe.

May God bless our nation with fertility for generations, and may every Somali woman, from Djibouti to Garissa, experience the joy of bringing many children into the world. May I be privileged to witness the day when our people thrive, reaching a population of a hundred million strong.
 
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galgaduud is basically a war zone along the clan borders, which encouraged more child births. war, always results in higher fertility rates.
 

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